There are bunch of posts about Canterburry being a potential haven for the changelings.
yeah, we called out changelings since the (dis)appearance of Lady Nightingale and the escape of Brochard's spymaster.

...You know, I'm now wondering: can you imagine Phalanx believing Garrick (or Hardbeak) to be changelings? After all we have a cult as well, the love of all our people, elite knight orders...

Damn, we'd make a better changeling than the changeling queen :V

Actually, the very first rumblings about Changelings happened after Garrick met that weird Gryphoness at his coronation...almost the first turn (funnily enough, that suspicion turned out to be entirely correct with Rose the Defector herself having been that female)

But what I meant that I was amused about that commentor having hit the bullseye with their weird association chain, up to including the Lady being a Changeling Queen (something nobody else has suspected to my knowledge)

That being said, Pittauro raises a good point about our MO being suprisingly similar to that of Queen Phalanx...you think we could spin that in our favour during possible diplomatic talks?
 
Actually, the very first rumblings about Changelings happened after Garrick met that weird Gryphoness at his coronation...almost the first turn (funnily enough, that suspicion turned out to be entirely correct with Rose the Defector herself having been that female)
I might be misremembering, but wasn't SHE named Lady nightingale?

If she wasn't, I meant her.

That being said, Pittauro raises a good point about our MO being suprisingly similar to that of Queen Phalanx...you think we could spin that in our favour during possible diplomatic talks?
maybe? It might actually make things worse, as usually "gods" are pretty jealous and don't like losing followers to other gods. It probably depends on how much she ended up believing her own hype.

More than a century of being both absolute monarch AND the goddess of a whole country... on second thought I'm starting to doubt our chances of successfull diplomacy with her. I still want to try, but still.
 
ok, this is funny. First turn results, when we met what we now know to be Rose.

Personal: You refuse to let your duties as King take up every moment of your day. (One Action Per Turn)
-Meet the King: It's customary for a new ruler to arrange a celebration in order to introduce themselves to their subjects. Whether it's a mayor organizing a festival for their town or a count inviting his barons to a feast, food and drink tend to help make a good first impression. Perhaps you should follow their example? Cost: 200. Time: One Year. Reward: Small boost to Public Opinion, small chance to meet Persons of Interest.

This isn't your first time throwing a party or organizing a celebration, but this will be the biggest and most expensive one you've ever been a part of. The royal kitchens work overtime to prepare great platters of fine food, and dozens of barrels of alcohol are purchased. Invitations are sent out to every noble that pledges fealty to you, and the heralds and town-criers in the towns and villages bordering your castle tell the public of the great festival you shall be holding for all to attend. Finally, after weeks of preparation, the gates of your keep are thrown open and crowds of revelers swarm up the path to the royal residence, the members of the nobility having already arrived by air.

You stand by the entrance to the main hall, taking the opportunity to personally greet each Griffon that arrives, your steward and seneschal standing beside you to ensure you don't forget the names of the nobles who deign to shake your claw. After an over an hour of talon-shaking and fake smiles, you manage to slip away from the entrance and into the banquet hall. Here too you are mobbed by nobles seeking to gain your favor, as well as some common-griffons who have imbibed a bit too much liquid courage. You keep up the whole gracious royal host shtick for the sake of appearances; this is why you are doing this after all, to make a good impression on your subjects. Finally, after what feels like an eternity, the Griffons that have been hounding you all night begin to break off one by one to snag some free food and drink or talk to other guests, and you take advantage of the lull in activity to grab a mug of ale and have a seat in one of the less populated corners of the hall to catch your breath.

You're about halfway through your pint when a finely dressed female Griffon walks up to your table, so quietly you almost don't notice her until she's only a wingspan away. You curse internally; you don't know who she is, and all of your advisors who might be able to tell you are out of reach. But her apparel and confident approach seem to indicate she's a noble, and likely an important one at that. You put on what you've taken to calling your "political smile" and try not to make a fool of yourself.

To your great surprise, the young lady doesn't try to flirt with you or suck up to you. In fact, if you didn't know any better you'd suspect that she was completely unaware that you were the King and thought you were just another party-goer, so casual was her manner of speech. It's been months since someone spoke to you simply as a Griffon and not as a King, and you find yourself truly relaxing in this hen's presence. You share a few drinks with her and while away the night with idle small talk and tales of your merchant days.

Time flies when you're in good company though, and as the party begins to wind down after several hours your new friend suddenly stands and states that she must be going. With a radiant smile she tells you that she has greatly enjoyed talking to you, and that "we should do this again soon." You barely have time to reply in the affirmative and wish her a good night before she turns and heads for the door. It's not until she's long gone that you realize that she never told you her name. Reward: Party Thrown, Noble and Public Opinion Increased, Person of Interest Met (???)

LITERALLY the first comment right after that post. We're talking PAGE 9!

Ok, that gryph at the party was really suspicious.

We have close to max diplomacy, and we still where the ones charmed. I am suspecting possible magic, a changling perhaps.

We should expand the spywork and have them trail or kill her to make sure.

well, it was changling, not changeling (they're supposed to be their chinese cousins, right? :V ) but still!
 
ok, this is funny. First turn results, when we met what we now know to be Rose.



LITERALLY the first comment right after that post. We're talking PAGE 9!



well, it was changling, not changeling (they're supposed to be their chinese cousins, right? :V ) but still!

Yeah, that "Gryphoness"/Changeling was Rose... "Lady Nightingale" was Brochards Spymaster and goaded him into declaring war against Wingbardy to set off the Reunification War.

...really? That old gag again, friend?
 
ok, this is funny. First turn results, when we met what we now know to be Rose.



LITERALLY the first comment right after that post. We're talking PAGE 9!



well, it was changling, not changeling (they're supposed to be their chinese cousins, right? :V ) but still!
Yeeeeah.

The Changeling suspicions have existed for a long time. There was an omake that worked on the changeling conspiracy angle. However, for the most part, Changelings were not a concern, beyond some comments that read to me as " I wish we encounter changelings soon".

Changelings are sorta niche and an acquired taste. Not every fan of MLP: FiM loves them.
 
Yeeeeah.

The Changeling suspicions have existed for a long time. There was an omake that worked on the changeling conspiracy angle. However, for the most part, Changelings were not a concern, beyond some comments that read to me as " I wish we encounter changelings soon".

Changelings are sorta niche and an acquired taste. Not every fan of MLP: FiM loves them.

Maybe not everyone loves them, but everyone knows them as one of the most iconic species of the series.
 
Twilight Sparkle, Discord, and Alicorns?

The Changelings are not that iconic. Constantly finding a pedestal to display Changelings upon, will not change that.

...I said "species", so Twilight and Discord are right out on account of being singular characters.

Also, I said "one of the most iconic", not "THE most iconic"...please read more closely next time.

Aside from that, they still have fans. Trying to fudge reality will not change that.

You dislike them, I like them...can we move on now?
 
@Questor So was Gabriella our father-in-law's only child? If so, it is possible for us to have Gilda inherit Urbirdo and form a cadet branch of the Golden-Feather family there (unless, of course, we get her married to someone first)?
 
Have been re-reading the quest and stumbled over this comment directly preceeding us being approached by the Canterburians:



...I have no words for how spot-on that turned out to be - it´s almost comical in its accidential accuracy.
How dare you invoke my presence? There are no accidents.
 
It's been a while, but i have caught up. That natural 100 huh.

I take it changling shall eventually become citizens?

Also im curious to what would have happen if he had married a changling instead.
 
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@Questor So was Gabriella our father-in-law's only child? If so, it is possible for us to have Gilda inherit Urbirdo and form a cadet branch of the Golden-Feather family there (unless, of course, we get her married to someone first)?

Given that we are feudal/absolutist monarchy its important to note that nobility plays important role in our society which probably means that there are measures in place to prevent extinction of noble families which means that any branch she forms probably will carry our fathers-in-law last name.
 
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Given that we are feudal/absolutist monarchy its important to note that nobility plays important role in our society which probably means that there are measures in place to prevent extinction of noble families which means that any branch she forms probably will carry our fathers-in-law last name.
Eh, that's fine. So long as she has something to do. Gilda is kinda the forgotten middle child of the family, so to speak.
 
Eh, that's fine. So long as she has something to do. Gilda is kinda the forgotten middle child of the family, so to speak.

I don't remember in which school we send her? Thought, ultimately there is good chance of her taking important position within the empire and making carrier there. As a daughter of imperial family many doors are opened to her so having nothing to do isn't really a problem.
 
We pretty much had a vote to send our children in school, or generally decide in which direction we want them to go when they came to certain age.
All our children were/are in school.

I believe Gawain was in that high-class school for Nobility.
Are you certain about this? 'Cause I don't remember this. I remember we chose how they'll be educated, but I don't remember anything about schools.
 
No schools. We decided that our eldest would be primarily educated in strategy and had him attend that high society club for children of the nobility. I don't remember what we chose for the others.
 
No schools. We decided that our eldest would be primarily educated in strategy and had him attend that high society club for children of the nobility. I don't remember what we chose for the others.
I don't believe we picked anything for them.


All our children received education.

Gawain was educated as schoolar, Gwyndlyn in martial , while Gleaming pearl and Gilda were educated in economy.

From them Gawain , Pearl and Gwyndlyn picked a hobby (board games, geology and gardening ) while Gilda has yet to pick one.

And only Gawain was sent in noble circle of friends while other children have yet to decide on which organization to join.



[ ] The Silver Talon Society: A social club for the children of nobility with a history reaching back to the first founding of the Empire, the Society is a place where the counts and dukes of tomorrow gather to make contacts with fellow noble scions, establishing a foundation upon which they will build their future social circle. Activities include hunts, chess tournaments, mock-duels and frequent balls and galas.

[ ] The Squires of Gryphus: Originally founded by the children of Knights, the Squires have grown over the past several years into a nationwide organization dedicated to preparing its young members for a life of martial service to the Empire, be it as a great Knight or a humble soldier. From fencing to jousting to wilderness survival and first aid, young Squires will have the chance to learn valuable skills that will serve them well regardless of their eventual career path.

[ ] The Archimedes Institute: While your chief scholar is far too busy to actually run the organization bearing his name, he is more than willing to dedicate a portion of his sizable fortune to "create a welcoming and nurturing environment for young minds destined for greatness" (or so the sales pitch written in the informational pamphlets states). Aspiring inventors, scientists, engineers and doctors from throughout the Empire gather regularly to exchange ideas, discuss the latest breakthroughs and innovations, or just spend time with their intellectual equals. Seeing as how Gawain had Archimedes as his personal tutor for much of his life up to this point, you're confident he's smart enough to be comfortable amidst such scholarly youngsters.

[ ] The Foundation for Interspecies Camaraderie: The most recent addition to the list of recognized Youth Organizations, the Foundation lives up to its name by facilitating social and charity events for the benefit of all races, from Diamond Dogs to Crystal Ponies and everything in between. While none of the other organizations discriminate on the basis of race, this is the only one that was explicitly created for the benefit of Non-Griffons. Much of this organization's renown has been gained through high-profile charity events for the benefit of Crystal Refugees

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And he is only that holds government post (in diplomacy).
 
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All our children received education.

Gawain was educated as schoolar, Gwyndlyn in martial , while Gleaming pearl and Gilda were educated in economy.

From them Gawain , Pearl and Gwyndlyn picked a hobby (board games, geology and gardening ) while Gilda has yet to pick one.

And only Gawain was sent in noble circle of friends while other children have yet to decide on which organization to join.





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And he is only that holds government post (in diplomacy).

Thank you for digging those infos up.

Personally, I´d put Gwyn into the Squires (the most martial organisation aviable), Pearl into the Fountain (our remaining non-gryph kid into the Interspecies society) and Gilda into the Institue (once more she has to deal with what remains, unfortunately).

If I remember corretly, the last remaining hobby was Hunting, so Gilda is getting that one as well.

Yeah, I´d like our children to cover all bases, although in retrospect I might have changed either Pearls or Gildas education focus.
 
Thank you for digging those infos up.

Personally, I´d put Gwyn into the Squires (the most martial organisation aviable), Pearl into the Fountain (our remaining non-gryph kid into the Interspecies society) and Gilda into the Institue (once more she has to deal with what remains, unfortunately).

If I remember corretly, the last remaining hobby was Hunting, so Gilda is getting that one as well.

Yeah, I´d like our children to cover all bases, although in retrospect I might have changed either Pearls or Gildas education focus.
The Foundation looks like the best practice for having actual responsibility, so I'd put Gwyn there in anticipation of her eventually needing to be a regent.

Pearl is already a mad scientist, so the Archimedes Institute would be perfect for her.

We'll see what suits Gilda best eventually, but covering all bases isn't actually a thing we need to do within our family. There are plenty of other people in the empire to cover a given base.
 
The Foundation looks like the best practice for having actual responsibility, so I'd put Gwyn there in anticipation of her eventually needing to be a regent.

Pearl is already a mad scientist, so the Archimedes Institute would be perfect for her.

We'll see what suits Gilda best eventually, but covering all bases isn't actually a thing we need to do within our family. There are plenty of other people in the empire to cover a given base.

Of course my idea was merely a first concept about how to handle things and will be subject to change over the turns.

I definitely see your points having actual merit, especially the bit about putting our longest-living kid into an organisation that´ll prepare her best for a very likely extremly multicultural future.

On the other hand, I never saw Pearl as all that Mad Scientist-like, so putting her into the AI never occurred to me.

While it is true that other people can cover all bases for us in the future, I still wouldn´t mind diversifying our family´s intrinsic coverage for varied reasons.
 
Hunting For/With Nobility
While it hadn't been too long since you'd seen your Father-In Law, it has been years since you'd met with Garibaldi Talonuelli outside of the occasional gala or meeting of state. And you don't think the three of you had been present together in an unofficial capacity since shortly after the Summit of Griffonstone that had united the Empire. You had of course accepted the invitation. While you naturally suspected that there was more to this meeting than a simple social outing, you weren't about to decline an opportunity to get away from the palace for a few days. Besides, it had been a while since you'd gone hunting.

You meet up with the elder States-Griffs at a secluded hunting lodge deep within the forested hinterlands of what used to be Aquileia, your security detail trimmed substantially to a bare talonfull of Knights who you politely instruct to remain as scarce as possible. Federico greets you warmly with a back-slap and a smile, Garibaldi giving a more subdued nod and a polite bow, despite your protests. None of you were here as nobility or rulers, but as friends.

True to their word, your bodyguards remain in the background for the duration of your trip, carefully and silently observing from afar. Despite their armor and imposing stature, they somehow manage to avoid spooking the game you hunt. Despite the age of you and your companions, you have little difficulty maneuvering through the forest, either stalking through the underbrush or flying above the tree line to line up a shot. With arrow and javelin you manage to bring back several rabbits, ducks and geese, but those pale in comparison to the Manticore the three of you manage to track and bring down on the fifth day of your excursion.

Someway, somehow, the three of you (with some assistance from your bodyguards, who probably wish they'd actually kept their distance), manage to drag the body of the thing back to the lodge. As the three of you gather around the fireplace with a few glasses of wine in celebration and contemplate whether you should make an attempt to taxidermy your latest catch, Federico clears his throat and gives you a look.

"I reckon you've been wondering what this little get-together is really about."

You raise an eye ridge, taking a sip from your glass as you consider your response.

"I'd assumed there was a reason beyond a desire to get away from our respective duties for awhile...though I couldn't hazard a guess as to what that reason was."

The aged former Feathersian nods, sighing.

"Don't get me wrong, I have enjoyed this..but Gerry and I didn't call you out here just for the sake of a good time, sad to say."

Both you and Garibaldi snort at his choice of nickname for his fellow noble, but the Grand Duke of Wingbardy doesn't do much more than take another pull from his glass as the Duke of Urbirdo continues to speak.

"I think you know me well enough at this point to know that I don't like to beat around the bush, so I'll get straight to the point. The thing is, there are some things we didn't feel comfortable talking about in our own homes, let alone the Imperial Palace. Too many prying ears about, no offense."

You shrug. You can understand that. In the business of rulership paranoia was just another word for sensible. Though you do wonder what matter would be so sensitive as to require such isolation for the three of you to discuss. Your inner thoughts must show on your face, as your Father-In-Law jumps right into the matter at hand, gesturing to himself and Garibaldi.

"There ain't no bones about it, we're old. Old enough to start worrying about what happens once we finally pass."

You put your glass down and lean forward. Both of the elder Griffons huff in unison and wave off your look of concern, Garibaldi chipping in his two marks.

"Relax your Highness, we're not dying yet. But it would be irresponsible of us not to consider the possible consequences of our departure from the mortal realm. There are matters of great importance to consider...particularly the matter of the inheritance of our titles and holdings."

You blink. That is...true, but you're not sure why that would have anything to do with you. Federico finishes his glass and pours himself another, gesturing to Garibaldi.

"Well, more his than mine. I've already got a son set to inherit my humble position."

You suppress the urge to snort. Count of one of the most prosperous cities in the Empire, a "humble" position...still, you suppose when weighed against Talonueli's holdings...The Grand Duke in question clears his throat, drawing your attention back to him.

"I asked Federico to arrange this meeting to discuss the matter of my title as Grand Duke being passed on...though to whom remains to be seen."

That elicits a questioning glance from you. Garibaldi sighs, placing his glass down as he steeples his talons.

"I cannot state with words how proud I am of my daughter. Genevieve is, without question, my greatest achievement in life."

He smiles, his eyes adopting a faraway look.

"I always suspected she'd go on to do great things...but even I could not have imagined her becoming the fine lady she is today. A scholar to rival...perhaps even one day surpass Archimedes himself..."

He shakes his head, waving his free talon dismissively.

"But I ramble...what's relevant to the matter at hand is that, accomplished as she is and as proud as I am for that, I've begun to doubt whether I should bequeath my title and holdings to her."

Had you been drinking still, you might have choked. Garibaldi had no other heirs. You splutter.

"Why?

Garibaldi swirls the wine in his glass as he raises an eyebrow at you.

"You have known and worked with my daughter for years. Do you truly think that she would be happy with the life and responsibilities of a Duchess?"

You take a moment to contemplate that. Genevieve, a lady who embodied the word scholar, who delighted in study and research and intellectual discussion, who preferred the company of books to people some days...being made to play the game of thrones and nobles. You fail to suppress a grimace, prompting a nod from the Grand Duke.

"My daughter lives to learn. She could never do that if I passed my title on to her."

You shift uncomfortably.

"Have you...discussed this with her?"

He sighs.

"I've tried to...she always changes the subject or shuts down the conversation before I can get to the heart of the issue. She's not comfortable with the topic...either of my death or the ramifications thereof. Honestly that only reinforces my thoughts on the matter. I believe she doesn't want to inherit my title, but tries not to think about it...or has resigned herself to it."

He runs a talon along the rim of his glass.

"I don't want to burden her with the weight of my position, with the responsibilities she does not wish to have...but of course, that raises the obvious question of who I am to bequeath my title and holdings to."

Your unease grows.

"Then who would your title fall to?"

The two elderly nobles give each other a look, then turn to you in unison. Federico puts down his glass.

"We've been discussing some ideas in regards to that. We could, theoretically, find a suitable member of the nobility to take up the title of Grand Duke...Gerry's had his eye on a Count Ciano for a while now."

You'd heard of the Griffon. An able administrator of his lands, such as they were, and one of Garibaldi's most influential vassals. You supposed it wasn't a terrible idea. Nobles had, on occasion, passed their titles and holdings onto one of their vassals as a reward for their service if they had no heir...or at least no heir that they deemed worthy. But those had all been baronies. To do so with an entire Grand Duchy, nearly a third of the Imperial Heartland...Federico nods at your unspoken concerns, your thoughts showing on your face.

"It is an unorthodox solution, to be certain, and one that could invite some administrative chaos as the change in power occurs, to say nothing of the grumbling from the other nobles that they weren't picked for the 'promotion'."

He snorts. His low opinion of many other members of the nobility was well known to you.

"Though it is not the only option available to us."

Garibaldi chimes in.

"There are other options of course. We could simply dissolve the Duchy."

You stare. Again, the dissolution of a vassalage into its component holdings was not unheard of, though it had happened only twice in recorded history, both times as a punishment by a king or emperor of a noble family that had been deemed corrupt or untrustworthy. You try to regain your composure, shifting in your seat.

"That's...a tad extreme isn't it?"

Federico shrugs.

"Not necessarily. It could simplify the bureaucracy if we cut out the middle-griff and let the the barons and counts go straight to you with their taxes and concerns. Might even let you squeeze some extra income out of them."

Garibaldi snorts, looking a bit miffed at being referred to as "middle-griff".

"Or it could throw much of the Imperial Administration into chaos. As open to the possibility of a dissolution as I am, my position does exist for a reason beyond the need for a noble hierarchy."

Federico raises a talon defensively, an apologetic expression on his face.

"I meant no offense my friend. Simply using a turn of phrase."

Talonueli rolls his eyes but lets the matter drop, turning to you.

"There is of course a final option. As the Emperor, under the ancient agreements the Empire was founded upon, you could simply claim the title for yourself."

You blink.

"What would that mean, practically speaking?"

The Grand Duke shrugs.

"In terms of administration, I imagine it would be quite similar to dissolving the Duchy: a lot of Counts and Barons now coming to you directly with their taxes and issues...perhaps a bit less chaos and disruption, on account of the actual infrastructure still existing but..."

Federico jumps in.

"But it's likely to elicit a negative reaction from the nobility at large. Even if Gerry hands the title over willingly, they're not likely to take to the idea of you consolidating power in such a way. Even if they love you, they're not going to like setting that precedent."

You rub your temples, groaning. Your Father-In-Law presses on.

"Of course, you might be able to side-step the issue, to a degree...if perhaps you wished to take the title and gift it to someone else...say, perhaps, one of your children?"

You stare. Federico isn't joking, despite the twinkle in his eye and the sly smile on his beak. You glance at Garibaldi. He seems...remarkably unbothered by the suggestion. The Grand Duke shrugs.

"I long since came to terms with the idea of my title falling out of my family. Giving it to someone else doesn't bother me. At this point it's just a question of who will receive it, if at all."

You mull that over, staring into the flames of the fireplace. Gifting the Duchy would likely carry many of the downsides of taking it for yourself, though it would have the added bonus of giving one of your children some experience in the art of rulership. Federico downs his glass, walking over as he pats your shoulder.

"Neither of us expect you to give us an answer right this minute. Honestly, you don't need to give us an answer at all. But we wanted to give you the chance to offer up your input."

He smirks as he reaches for another bottle of wine.

"It's your Empire after all."

Garibaldi Talonueli has revealed his intention to not pass his title of Grand Duke to his daughter, and seeks your input on what to do. What course of action do you recommend?

[ ] Another Noble: Just find another suitable noble who would make a good Grand Duke. This would cause the least amount of disruption, but will likely upset many of the other members of the nobility when they realize they've been passed over for the unexpected promotion.

[ ] Duchy Dissolution: You'll dissolve the Duchy. It'll cause some chaos and inconvenience in the short-term, but it's the only option that won't anger the nobility and risk causing you further problems down the line.

[ ] Claim the Title: You'll take the title for yourself. Unorthodox, to be sure, but it'll let you consolidate power and streamline the bureaucracy, maybe even squeeze some extra tax income out of the place. The other nobles may not like it but hey, what are they going to do?

[ ] Gift the Title: Well...your children could use some experience in the art of rulership. Gawain may be the first in line for the throne and already busy with his diplomatic posting besides, bbut you're sure one of your daughters would be able to make the most of the situation and put their skills and unique knowledge to use. Who knows, they might even learn something from the experience. Of course, there's the obvious question of who to give it to...

[ ] (Write-In)
 
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