So, someone has probably already pointed this out...but we're basically the Warhammer Dwarfs, aren't we?
Developing steam tech, gunpowder weaponry, lives in the mountains, have some very good miners, and aren't so good at magic, but we've got runes.

I only picked up on it just now, doing a reread. Made me smile.
We ain't Dwarfs. Dwarfs can't fly unless they have machines and they aren't german, no offence.

Also, we don't do the whole grudge thing.

TBH, we are closest to a more progressive Empire of Sigmar....Maybe the DDs/EDs could count as Dwarf equivalent, but definitely not us
 
May I ask what exactly is not to our liking?

Here are the parts in each plan that I am either having reservations about, or view as a complete waste of time and resources for what our priorities should be the moment.
Assassin Plan said:
-[X] Runic Fortifications-Hardbeak Line: Cost: 2000. Time: Two Years. Reward: Hardbeak Line Fortifications Strengthened with Runic Enchantments, increased upkeep costs.
-[X] Runic Armor: Cost: 1500. Time: One Year. Reward: Runic Armor for Knightly Grandmasters and Imperial Royal Family.
-[X] Journey to the Frozen Coast: Cost: 400. Time: One Year. Reward: Contact made with Caribou Kingdoms, New Actions Unlocked.
-[X] Yak Cannons: Cost: 400. Time: One Year. Reward: Yaks begin purchasing Imperial Cannons. Chance of Success: 60%
-[X] Runic Airships: Cost: 500. Time: One Year. Reward: Explored Viability of Runes in Potential Flying Machines.
-[X] Cold Case: Cost: 500. Time: One Year. Reward: Information on Queen Mareia's Assassination. Chance of Success: 35% - This is a maybe rather than a hard no. I am iffy on the complete usefulness on this versus the opportunity cost of chasing it.
-[X] Runic Literacy: Cost: 200. Time: One Year. Reward: Crystal Heart Worshippers gain access to basic Runic Knowledge, Runic literacy spreads.
-[X] Meeting Merlin: Cost: 0. Time: One Year. Reward: Information on Merlin Ambrosius, chance to unlock new Actions.
Diplo Plan said:
- [x] Runic Fortifications-Hardbeak Line: Cost: 2000
- [x] Runic Armor: Cost: 1500
- [x] Emerald Isles Emissary: Cost: 300
- [x] Journey to the Frozen Coast: Cost: 400
- [x] Runic Airships: Cost: 500
- [x] Cold Case: Cost: 500
- [x] Runic Literacy: Cost: 200
- [x] Meeting Merlin: Cost: 0
- [x] Riddle of the Labyrinth: Cost: 500

Usually I can just suck it up and vote for the plan that is closest to what I want, but neither plan really has what I want, especially with the overbearing chasing runes both of them seem to have instead of going for something more practical for our current situation.
 
Here are the parts in each plan that I am either having reservations about, or view as a complete waste of time and resources for what our priorities should be the moment.



Usually I can just suck it up and vote for the plan that is closest to what I want, but neither plan really has what I want, especially with the overbearing chasing runes both of them seem to have instead of going for something more practical for our current situation.

The overbearing rune chasing will pay off handsomely very soon, trust me.

As for "Cold Case", I already and multiple times explained why this option (while admittedly having a low natural sucess chance) is among the most important choices we HAVE to make.
 
The overbearing rune chasing will pay off handsomely very soon, trust me.

As for "Cold Case", I already and multiple times explained why this option (while admittedly having a low natural success chance) is among the most important choices we HAVE to make.
Don't forget that this is the last time we CAN take the "Cold Case", as per GM warning. After this turn, the Truth of what happened to the dead Queen will never be known, and the problem resolved.

And I'd say we're more the Empire at their upswing, without it's biggest failing: rampant paranoia.
 
Don't forget that this is the last time we CAN take the "Cold Case", as per GM warning. After this turn, the Truth of what happened to the dead Queen will never be known, and the problem resolved.

And I'd say we're more the Empire at their upswing, without it's biggest failing: rampant paranoia.

Nono, we CAN still take "Cold Case" afterwards as well, but after this turn the success chances start decaying, making suceeding even more finicky than it´s already is...so right now is the best moment to still pull it off.

As I said: a more progressive Empire (paranoia doesn´t really lend itself to progress all that well, tbf)
 
The overbearing rune chasing will pay off handsomely very soon, trust me.

As for "Cold Case", I already and multiple times explained why this option (while admittedly having a low natural sucess chance) is among the most important choices we HAVE to make.
You and others giving explanations doesn't mean I have to actually be convinced by it. Your word isn't fact, only your view meant to try to convince others. Once again, opportunity cost. It has possibly good results depending on what we find, but there is a cost simply by pursuing it instead of other things with no guarantee that we will get a satisfying return on said investment. I'd much rather go with a safer and more long-term investment than chasing unknowns. Just because the option begins to go cold doesn't mean we have to pursue it.

Runes are pretty shinies when we could be investing in much more important and basic options. We shouldn't be opening up yet another avenue of research when there are better things to pursue.

I am also surprised you didn't say anything about my putting selling the Yaks cannons as one of the things I didn't like.
 
@Questor
Here. I sketched a portrait of the royal family. I referenced several images and combined them together. Several hours of work.

Gleaming Pearl: "Mother forgive my impatience, but how long is this going to be?"

Gabriella: "Feathers if I know my dear daughter, but I suspect that only the painter knows. That is if he gives us a bloody answer because I can't keep my eyes like this forever!"

Gleaming Pearl: " Such language Mother!"

Gilda: "Dad, I think I need to pee."

Garrick: "Gilda, I told you to take a break before we posed for the painting."

Gilda: "I didn't need to go then!"

Garrick: *Sigh* "Here's some advice then my sweet, don't think about water. At all."

Gilda: "Does that work?"

Garrick: "Most of the time."

Gwyndlyn: "Brother, my eyes are starting to sting."

Gawain: "...Gwyndlyn, have you even blinked?"

Gwyndlyn: "I thought you weren't supposed to blink when you're being painted!"

Gawain: "Where did you hear that?"

Gwyndlyn: "Mom said it at one of her birthday parties."

Gawain: "Mother was making a joke! And she was drunk!"

Gwyndlyn: "Mom can make jokes?"
 
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Gleaming Pearl: "Mother forgive my impatience, but how long is this going to be?"

Gabriella: "Feathers if I know my dear daughter, but I suspect that only the painter knows. That is if he gives us a bloody answer because I can't keep my eyes like this forever!"

Gleaming Pearl: " Such language Mother!"

Gilda: "Dad, I think I need to pee."

Garrick: "Gilda, I told you to take a break before we posed for the painting."

Gilda: "I didn't need to go then!"

Garrick: *Sigh* "Here's some advice then my sweet, don't think about water. At all."

Gilda: "Does that work?"

Garrick: "Most of the time."

Gwyndlyn: "Brother, my eyes are starting to sting."

Gawain: "...Gwyndlyn, have you even blinked?"

Gwyndlyn: "I thought you weren't supposed to blink when you're being painted!"

Gawain: "Where did you hear that?"

Gwyndlyn: "Mom said it at one of her birthday parties."

Gawain: "Mother was making a joke! And she was drunk!"

Gwyndlyn: "Mom can make jokes?"
This deserves bonus points for being so well matched to the portrait
 
You and others giving explanations doesn't mean I have to actually be convinced by it. Your word isn't fact, only your view meant to try to convince others. Once again, opportunity cost. It has possibly good results depending on what we find, but there is a cost simply by pursuing it instead of other things with no guarantee that we will get a satisfying return on said investment. I'd much rather go with a safer and more long-term investment than chasing unknowns. Just because the option begins to go cold doesn't mean we have to pursue it.

Runes are pretty shinies when we could be investing in much more important and basic options. We shouldn't be opening up yet another avenue of research when there are better things to pursue.

I am also surprised you didn't say anything about my putting selling the Yaks cannons as one of the things I didn't like.

The very fact that some polities are suspectign us of being behind the assassination itself - growing more distrusting and hostile in the process - is reason enough for us to pursue "Cold Case". Let´s be honest, stuff like the canon RG-omake and the Minotaurs´weird behaviour clearly shows that things are already getting outta hand a bit.

Those "pretty shinies" enable us to compensate one of Gryphonias biggest problems: our inability to properly harness magic to further our development.

As for the Yaks - while I would prefer to contact both the EDs and Caribou in one go, I am starting to grow weary of pleading my point in that regard and now I am simply counting my losses.
 
As for the Yaks - while I would prefer to contact both the EDs and Caribou in one go, I am starting to grow weary of pleading my point in that regard and now I am simply counting my losses.
I would much rather diplomatically court them first, like by doing the first action towards their species's traditional religion, before selling them cannons they don't even want yet. The fact that they aren't even in the market yet and don't really have any other potential suppliers close-by means that we can afford to build things up before modernizing their military.
The very fact that some polities are suspectign us of being behind the assassination itself - growing more distrusting and hostile in the process - is reason enough for us to pursue "Cold Case". Let´s be honest, stuff like the canon RG-omake and the Minotaurs´weird behaviour clearly shows that things are already getting outta hand a bit.
Once again, opportunity cost. You are giving reasons to pick it, but not reasons why that is better than pursuing alternative routes of action towards addressing our problems. Legitimate question: you do know what opportunity cost means right? I feel like any time I try to argue opportunity cost, people just ignore it and keep throwing the same points without actually addressing what I am asking.
Those "pretty shinies" enable us to compensate one of Gryphonias biggest problems: our inability to properly harness magic to further our development.
Yes, and there are much more basic things we need before we should start investing in a whole avenue of research that will undoubtedly cost a lot of time, actions, and resources before we can get a return. There is a time and place for everything. Saying "but that enables us to compensate one issue" doesn't actually mean we should do it NOW, especially since that lack of ability to do magic isn't particularly crippling to our military.
 
Once again, opportunity cost. You are giving reasons to pick it, but not reasons why that is better than pursuing alternative routes of action towards addressing our problems. Legitimate question: you do know what opportunity cost means right? I feel like any time I try to argue opportunity cost, people just ignore it and keep throwing the same points without actually addressing what I am asking.

www.investopedia.com

Opportunity Cost: Definition, Formula, and Examples

Opportunity cost is the potential forgone profit from a missed opportunity—the result of choosing one alternative over another.

So, what would we miss out on if we didn´t take that opportunity...How about cleaning our name of those assassination acussations? Possible knowledge about outside influences taking advantage of the shitty Maretonian situation we caused indirectly? That sorta thing, you know?

Yes, and there are much more basic things we need before we should start investing in a whole avenue of research that will undoubtedly cost a lot of time, actions, and resources before we can get a return. There is a time and place for everything. Saying "but that enables us to compensate one issue" doesn't actually mean we should do it NOW, especially since that lack of ability to do magic isn't particularly crippling to our military.


In an almost entirely magical world, I disagree with us not being able to harness this power at least indirectly being of little concern. You want to level the playing field as much as possible as fast as possible to survive in politics. That´s the Red Queen Hypothesis to you:

"You have to move as fast as possible to remain at place - and even faster to get anywhere"
 
www.investopedia.com

Opportunity Cost: Definition, Formula, and Examples

Opportunity cost is the potential forgone profit from a missed opportunity—the result of choosing one alternative over another.

So, what would we miss out on if we didn´t take that opportunity...How about cleaning our name of those assassination acussations? Possible knowledge about outside influences taking advantage of the shitty Maretonian situation we caused indirectly? That sorta thing, you know?




In an almost entirely magical world, I disagree with us not being able to harness this power at least indirectly being of little concern. You want to level the playing field as much as possible as fast as possible to survive in politics. That´s the Red Queen Hypothesis to you:

"You have to move as fast as possible to remain at place - and even faster to get anywhere"
I heartedly agree. They may be threats that are entirely magical in nature that we have not yet met, so investing in anti magic protection now is a worthwhile investment.

In addition to the assassination, the Minotaur Republics reaction and caution towards us is more than enough reason for us to find out and expose the culprits.
 
Not to mention that we wont always be without magic given our hipogriff and pony population, plus the immigrants from magical countries. We should use Merlin while we can and have him leave a legacy for future generations to research, that way we wont be far behind magically.
 
Vote seems pretty clear. Will start work on the update.

Let me know if anyone wants to make use of their Omake bonuses and for what Actions. Remember, only two Omake bonuses per action.
Adhoc vote count started by Questor on Jan 19, 2020 at 6:13 PM, finished with 137 posts and 34 votes.

  • [X] Plan: Good Assassin Hunting (this time with More Runes) v3
    -[X] Runic Fortifications-Hardbeak Line: Cost: 2000. Time: Two Years. Reward: Hardbeak Line Fortifications Strengthened with Runic Enchantments, increased upkeep costs.
    -[X] Runic Armor: Cost: 1500. Time: One Year. Reward: Runic Armor for Knightly Grandmasters and Imperial Royal Family.
    -[X] Canterbury Caravans: Cost: 200. Time: One Year. Reward: Trade with Canterbury Established, Increased Trade Income.
    -[X] Journey to the Frozen Coast: Cost: 400. Time: One Year. Reward: Contact made with Caribou Kingdoms, New Actions Unlocked.
    -[X] Yak Cannons: Cost: 400. Time: One Year. Reward: Yaks begin purchasing Imperial Cannons. Chance of Success: 60%
    -[X] Rail Network: Cost: 1500. Time: Four Years. Reward: National Freight Railway Network Constructed. Increased Tax Income. New Options Unlocked. Will Finish This Turn
    -[X] Aggressive Agricultural Expansion: Cost: 1000. Time: Two Years. Reward: Expanded Agriculture, Secured Food Supply, Increased Income.
    -[X] Gas, Gas, Gas: Cost: 300. Time: One Year. Reward: Lifting Gases Identified.
    -[X] Runic Airships: Cost: 500. Time: One Year. Reward: Explored Viability of Runes in Potential Flying Machines.
    -[X] Cold Case: Cost: 500. Time: One Year. Reward: Information on Queen Mareia's Assassination. Chance of Success: 35%
    -[X] Eyes on the Skies: Cost: 500. Time: One Year. Reward: Intel on House Storm Activities, New Actions Unlocked. Chance of Success: 55%
    -[X] Runic Literacy: Cost: 200. Time: One Year. Reward: Crystal Heart Worshippers gain access to basic Runic Knowledge, Runic literacy spreads.
    -[X] Meeting Merlin: Cost: 0. Time: One Year. Reward: Information on Merlin Ambrosius, chance to unlock new Actions.
    -[X] Pet (Rock) Project: Cost: 0. Time: One Year. Reward: ???
    [x] Plan Diplomatic De-Escalation, Runic Refurbishing and Preparing to Stop the Storm
    - [x] Runic Fortifications-Hardbeak Line: Cost: 2000
    - [x] Runic Armor: Cost: 1500
    - [x] Canterbury Caravans: 200
    - [x] Emerald Isles Emissary: Cost: 300
    - [x] Journey to the Frozen Coast: Cost: 400
    - [x] Rail Network: Will Finish This Turn
    - [x] Crystal Agriculture: Cost: 800
    - [x] Gas, Gas, Gas: Cost: 300
    - [x] Runic Airships: Cost: 500
    - [x] Cold Case: Cost: 500
    - [x] Riddle of the Labyrinth: Cost: 500
    - [x] Runic Literacy: Cost: 200
    - [x] Meeting Merlin: Cost: 0
    - [x] Overtime: Eyes on the Skies: Cost: 500
    [X] Plan "Diplomatic De-Escalation & Runic Refurbishing" (version 1.5)
 
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AN: Welp, this is gonna be interesting.


Black Wings, Red Ground

The crows came early for the feast.

Fluttering, dancing black shapes swooped down and landed on the branch of a dead tree, shaking the morning dew from the branches. Crowing, cawing, the murder talked amongst itself, fluttering and jumping from branch to branch, eager and joyous at the coming feast.

They had been growing fat and healthy off the spoils of their meals, and were eager for yet more. Though, every now and then, one would look down, and caw curiously at the little three legged pony crouched at the trees base, before turning back, ignoring the strange land dweller. There were more important things to focus on than the strangeness of land dwellers.

Sunnyside Smiles settled himself in his perch, mindful of the crackling and snapping of the dead leaves beneath him. The bright browns and reds did well to hide his dappled brown coat, though he did worry that the shade of his mane might give him away at a distance. After all, white streaked with blue wasn't exactly a autumn color. He decided it would be fine, but made sure to move lower to the ground just in case. Finally settled as best as he could, he took a moment to inspect his surroundings.

Located a good distance from the site of the spectacle to come, it was perched atop a lonely, slight hill. Stark against the afternoon sun, it's white bulk stood out even more due to its seeming isolation to the fields of grain and forests below it though he guessed that would make it more forgettable.

After all, such a location would be too noticeable to be suspicious. At least, that's what his master would say, and Smiles was inclined to listen to the old bird, considering he had been doing such things for so long.


The afternoon sun shone bright against the sky, the mornings rain clouds having retreated to the distant mountains. Below the hill, stretched out for what looked like miles was fields of grain and wheat, shining bright and golden in the autumn sun. A river cut lazily through a meadow to the east, bubbling and flowing coldly through the land scape, and flowing through a large village in the distance From his place, he thought he could see smoke rising into the sky.

Such a pretty location, almost made Smiles want to have a picnic.

Shame that, considering what would happen.

It had been a few years since the Civil war had swept through Maretonia, following the assassination of the Queen. House Whitefire and Star had been battling for control of the throne for years, with the Abolitionists on the sidelines striking at whomever they could. Smiles couldn't fault them for their enthusiasm, but knew from others that they weren't much in comparison to the main competitors, even with Gryphon help.

He knew, from one of the maps he had been given, tucked away in his pack, that he was in the west part of Maretonia, in some province or another. He wasn't sure which one, but knew that it lay between the lands of House Star And Fire, and as such, it was a prime place to control. Both sides would require food for their armies, and the river allowed whomever held it to control the whole region and such a place would be vital for the war effort.

Or at least, that's what they said. Smiles was pretty sure that both houses wouldn't need such a pretty reason to fight for this place. They thought it as valuable, so they both wanted it. Simple as that. Still, such a sha-

Splat!

Smiles jolted out of his thoughts as something wet and cold hit him on his flank. Looking behind him, he saw that a white liquid had hit him right on his cutie mark. Leaning closer, he sniffed at it, then recoiled. Crabapples, it was crow poop!

He glared upwards, and was met by crows and caws that he thought was mocking laughter. Grumbling, he turned and reached into his pack with his muzzle, fishing for his cleaning cloth. Not for the first time, he wished he had been born a unicorn, and could magic to fish it out, or turn those damn crows into roads or something. Alas, his lot was that of a lowly earth pony, so no such luck.

Suddenly, his teeth met something metal. Blinking, he pulled out a gold locket, bright in the sunlight. He'd forgotten he had this. How long had it been in there? Popping it open, he looked at the picture scrap inside it, smiling slightly at the sight.

Rose good eyes stared back at him, hidden behind a coy gaze and flirty smile. His loves wings were tucked against her bulk, white and gold melding nicely into one beautiful Griffon. God-Emperor, he missed his Rosalina. He wondered, not for the first time, if he would ever see her again. He grinned, remembering the night before he left his town, and the goodbye present he had been given. And then had been given many times further, with increased fervor. He made a promise that night, looking over her sleeping body, that when he came back he would propose the moment he got home.

If he ever back.

His smile fell, and he stared out into the distance, a cold wind ruffling his blue streaked mane as if attracted to his somber thoughts. How long had it been? Two years? Three? He couldn't remember, only the battles and the fear and the strangeness of it all. He gazed down, and looked at the stump of flesh where his left hoof used to be. He grimaced, remembering how that had been taken, and what had led him to it. What had led him to this.

He never knew his parents. Apparently, they had been Canterburian or something, he wasn't sure. But they had been captured apparently, and enslaved by Maretonia. He had been born 3 years in to their slavery, after which he had been separated from them like stock at 3 years old, and sent to some fancy Maretonian estate.

His memories were hazy of that time, but he remembered a few things. Beatings when he wasn't fast enough. Beating when he was too fast. Beatings when he was there at all. Dressed as a Griffon and paraded around like a toy in front of important guests, then 'plucked' and made to try and fly from buildings. And then there were the nights.

He preferred not to think of the nights.

This went on for years, until, on his 15 name day, Maretonia made a mistake.

They bought slaves stolen from Griffonia.

He saw his chance, and never looked back. He fled across the border into the Crystal Empire, and from there, begged and stole his way until he reached Griffonia proper.

There, on the start of a new life, he finally chose a name for himself. And he won his cutie mark.

There, he discovered his destiny.

Thump. Thump. Thump.

Horns blared.

Drums boomed out.

Smiles jolted out of his thoughts. The sun was at its zenith, and he realized time had passed while he waited. Quickly, he looked up, and turned towards the noise. Above him, the crows cawed and stirred excitedly. Repacking back into his pack, he pulled out the spy glass he had brought and focused it on the north horizon.

There, in the distance, he saw the glimmer of armor and dust cloud the Maretonian Star army.

It was a small force, about 1000 or so. He saw the glint of Legionnaire armor, and guessed about 300 or so were amongst the body. The rest, he quickly noticed, were bare or barely armed, and he grimaced. Slave soldiers. Not surprising, but still disturbing to see. He could see their desiccated and bony flanks, hollow eyes and slave collars jingling. About 500 or so.

The rest were mercenaries he assumed, from their drab and dirty armor. He saw many bodies amongs them, some pony, some Griffon, a Minotaur or two. In the back, he thought he saw a group of unicorns around a particularly well armored pony. The commander he presumed. Now where was the-

A horn blare from the south caught his attention. He turned and saw the second Whitefire army approaching. Similar disposition, maybe a hundred more. The crows grew more restless, cawing excitedly.

The two armies marched, eventually coming to a stop in the middle of field of grain directly in from of Smiles. A quiet settled over both. Smiles grew tense, the wait growing almost unbearable.

A shout, and then both armies charged, voices carrying across the area, as the clash of steel and screams echoed through out the area.

Later, as the sunset, and the screams died down to moans and wailing, Smiles, shaken by the sights, got up from his perch, and turned down the hill, walking slowly. Another stalemate. Another report to send to Griffonia.

As he left, he looked up, and saw the crows flutter and take off from the tree, and circle slowly down, to their feast below.


AN: This has been bothering for weeks. Freedom. @Questor, accept my offering.
"Throws trash through computer screen."

+10 to a roll, great writing!

Only one correction: there is no House Fire. The two major factions are House Storm and House White Star. Other than that, amazing Omake!
 
You see the portrait questor?

EDIT: There was some amazing commentary a bit after on what each one was saying to each other while they were being painted
 
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I'm afraid not. What did I miss?

This is what you missed



@Questor
Here. I sketched a portrait of the royal family. I referenced several images and combined them together. You'll find they are mostly accurate the character sheets on the front page. Several hours of work.

Gleaming Pearl: "Mother forgive my impatience, but how long is this going to be?"

Gabriella: "Feathers if I know my dear daughter, but I suspect that only the painter knows. That is if he gives us a bloody answer because I can't keep my eyes like this forever!"

Gleaming Pearl: " Such language Mother!"

Gilda: "Dad, I think I need to pee."

Garrick: "Gilda, I told you to take a break before we posed for the painting."

Gilda: "I didn't need to go then!"

Garrick: *Sigh* "Here's some advice then my sweet, don't think about water. At all."

Gilda: "Does that work?"

Garrick: "Most of the time."

Gwyndlyn: "Brother, my eyes are starting to sting."

Gawain: "...Gwyndlyn, have you even blinked?"

Gwyndlyn: "I thought you weren't supposed to blink when you're being painted!"

Gawain: "Where did you hear that?"

Gwyndlyn: "Mom said it at one of her birthday parties."

Gawain: "Mother was making a joke! And she was drunk!"

Gwyndlyn: "Mom can make jokes?"
 
@Questor
Here. I sketched a portrait of the royal family. I referenced several images and combined them together. You'll find they are mostly accurate the character sheets on the front page. Several hours of work.


That is the most amazing and beautiful thing I've ever seen.

Thank you.

+20 to a roll, and the only reason I'm not giving you more is because it would unbalance the Quest.

Seriously, this is amazing to me. Well drawn.
 
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