Careful not to warmonger people. No matter how beneficial, people are still dying and that's always a bad thing
We're guiding a country with our plans every turn. People will always die regardless. The more important thing is not to worry about the morality of sending people to their death, so much as the cost-benefit for our country of each possible approach with our current build and how that will affect us moving forward in both the short-term run and long-term run.
 
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We're guiding a country with our plans every turn. People will always die regardless. The more important thing is not to worry about the morality of sending people to their death, so much as the cost-benefit for our country of each possible approach with our current build and how that will affect us moving forward in both the short-term run and long-term run.

You are forgetting that thanks to things like public and international opinions, that pesky morality is implicitly part of any good cost-benefit calculation.

There is a difference between *spending people* and *wasting them*...and not just in a purely military context, after all
 
Well, jalapenos are very sweet when you take out the spice.

Banana peppers are very juicy and have a lovely sweet tang to them

The list goes on for a while but i just woke up and those are off the top of my head.

How did we get from Civil War over slavery to Middle East Intervention to being German Expy with possibility of using Biological Weapons To Effect of Pepper on Fictional Creature Pregnancy to how jalapenos taste ? This forum has attention span of Dory with Sensibility of Magnus.
 
How did we get from Civil War over slavery to Middle East Intervention to being German Expy with possibility of using Biological Weapons To Effect of Pepper on Fictional Creature Pregnancy to how jalapenos taste ? This forum has attention span of Dory with Sensibility of Magnus.
And its what makes this thread fun its also what happens when we wait for questor. we start making plans which inevitable lead to just about anything else.
 
I meant more as settlers for any future frontier towns/villages not as soldiers, besides our army is made of professionals not conscripts.

We also have a volunteer militia and I think some auxiliaries, but no consripts.

Problem is that the lands south of Gryphus belong to our Protectorate which is still somewhat-autonomous.

Even further south are the lands of Maretonia, which is currently hostile territory that we still haven´t really made any concrete plans about what to do with...So atm a pioneer trek south would be meaningless.
 
We also have a volunteer militia and I think some auxiliaries, but no consripts.

Problem is that the lands south of Gryphus belong to our Protectorate which is still somewhat-autonomous.

Even further south are the lands of Maretonia, which is currently hostile territory that we still haven´t really made any concrete plans about what to do with...So atm a pioneer trek south would be meaningless.
Honestly, I suspect the crystal ponies to be all in on helping their neighbors, even if weren't planning on doing something this turn (we definitely will though).
 
Even further south are the lands of Maretonia, which is currently hostile territory that we still haven´t really made any concrete plans about what to do with...So atm a pioneer trek south would be meaningless.
Don't we have a few frontiers near the Yak border, actually this brings up the question if we have any near the Kingdom of Canterbury's borders.
 
Don't we have a few frontiers near the Yak border, actually this brings up the question if we have any near the Kingdom of Canterbury's borders.

Problem with the border area next to Canterbury is that somwhere there is also that lake the Lake-Lady cultists would like to see consecrated, therefore forbidding any settlement...so no luck there if we wnna curry easy favors with Canterbury.

And yes, we have frontier towns close to Yakistani lands...those towns make up our provinceof Kestrell(i)a, where we first got hit by an epideemic a while ago.
 
Interdicting Maretonian trade seems like it would hand the war over to House Storm. They're far more able to weather economic failure than White Star and its mercenary armies. If we're looking for an abolitionist victory through intrigue, we have to ensure that the two houses grind each other into dust.
 
Interdicting Maretonian trade seems like it would hand the war over to House Storm. They're far more able to weather economic failure than White Star and its mercenary armies. If we're looking for an abolitionist victory through intrigue, we have to ensure that the two houses grind each other into dust.

True, but grinding results in lots of casuaties which I am not really ok with. I honestly would prefer an end to this civil war as quickly possible for multiple reasons.

As I stated in my rather extensive overview of this conflict, I am seeing Whitestar ultimately in the weaker position thanks to their economic power being reliant on the trade with the Minotaurs, which is about to get rather anemic if not shrivel up completly.

Regarding the idea to also ascertain if their are any legitimate heirs down the Maretonian lines, I am all for combining it with my idea to identify Mareias murderer.
 
So does anyone have any ideas on what we should do for the next turn, cause I would like to make some mortars if we do go to war.
Nothing graspable until Questor can provide a proper Turn to craft a plan from, I am afraid.
I'd advocate for Hoofbeard's Heist at least. It'd harm Whitestar, get us on even better terms with Libertalia, distance them from the minotaurs faster, and make up for our unforseen economic drain this turn. Plus it got a bonus from follow the money.
 
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