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So, we are going to add Maretonia to the Empire, right? Because there is no reason to not do it and I really want to add more land.
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You also got stats better than your parents in nearly everything. And you're not far behind in the rest of them.
Well, nice to see our discussions and ideas are being taken into consideration. It's basically what we talked about these last few days.
...Fuck. This is probably our fault. Losing the Minotaur Republics must have been the last straw for the nobles.
Well, next year we'll have to contact our allies and friendly neighbours to make plans and take all the actions needed to prepare for war. Maybe we could also hire Minotaur mercenaries if they have any, or see if we can make a deal to have the support of their armies.
Yaks we should be able to convince if we make a good offer, as it will also be a good chance for them to prove their strenght to the other countries
Neighpon will help us with near certainty, especially on the see. We WILL need their navy.
Canterbury...maybe. They WILL want to help us, but they might not have the freedom to act with the monsters in their lands.
The Crystal Protectorate will obviously support us. We might even be able to form a pony militia/army BEYOND their knights if we're lucky and have the time and actions to spare.
Libertalia could be a good military/navy base for both our AND the Neighponese navy, though we'll need to convince them.
We'll need to strenghten our army as much as we can, see what our new magic advisor can do about it, and complete the Hardbeak Line. Also see how the abolitionists can help us (and how WE can help THEM).
To be really fair, we saw nearly nothing of her beyond her picture. She was reasonable (from what we know) only in comparison to the stupid ambassador that was sent to us.
which is basically all we talked about the last few pages. Still, with a war coming it's obvious what his options will be right now.
1)knight.
2)tactician/strategist
3)Diplomat/ambassador to our allies and contacts, or even to the minotaurs. We'll need all the help we can get. There's no kill like overkill and all that. Best case scenario I want ALL of the known world against Maretonia (except Caribous and Diamond Dogs lands, as we had no contact with them yet and they're also too far anyway)
Well, We certainly need to know what the situation is before deciding on a course of action, but there ARE possible scenarios in which we should attack as soon as possible. For example if the abolitionists gained the support of part of the military and/or nobles, but are losing the civil war.
Correction: THE ONLY TWO trade partners. And Libertalia doesn't really count as a trade partner, it was more a source of deniable illegal work.
Depends on where the internal factions lay. I doubt the coup group has enough OPness to outright take over the entire nation without rival noble families, or just the ponies on the ground/peasants, blowing caskets.
Some will want their own emperor candidate to take the throne, some faraway corners with overly greedy leaders might attempt independence and we just armed the Abolitionists with Griffonese Steel - and there is no longer a unified chain of command to crack down on them!
If we play our part right, we could either support weaker breakaway factions and dismantle Maretonia that way, or we can just march in, link up with the slaves and go ham.
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That's a possibility, though it might be smarter to support the abolitionists and have THEM send the assassins.
Lying to us was, objectively, a reasonable action. She didn't have the power to give our people back to us, so "deny everything" was her best option. And her being nice (or as nice as she could be) to the "strong neighbouring empire" IT'S a reasonable action.
She WAS reasonable...compared to her nobles.
That doesn't...well, didn't, make her a good person though.
@Questor, as she is already dead, can you tell us a bit about the mare behind the crown? What kind of person was she?
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Whatever her faults, she just didn't want Maretonia to explode into civil war. Alas, no one is more disliked in a polarizing discussion than a moderate.
Considering how communism usually ends (or even just the French Revolution) let's not.
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Eh, as long as there's no "off with their heads!" And full blown communism (which usually just winds up being a dictatorship under a different name rather than actual communism), should be fine. Some moderate socialism without too much bloodshed is perfectly acceptable.
Considering that it would be built on top a slave rebellion, heads rolling seems like the realistic outcome.
We should go full Lincoln, IMO, promise them a life in freedom if they switch sides. That way we turn the Harbeak line and Canterbury into fallback options the slaves (and abolitionists, if found out) can flee to if the Revolution goes poorly.
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heads rolling does seems the most likely outcome. the real question is if said head rolling is just because of lynch mobs, or because they were put under fair trial and deemed that execution would be the only way to make up their crimes. Something like enforced labor in the fields could also be a possible punishment I could see some getting ehind over execution. With us helping, I am sure we could stabalize from a lynch mob to a functioning body with some resentment
We haven't seen classical liberalism pop up, much less communism. I really doubt Maretonia could go red.
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my question is who took down the old queen. those random event rolls were a little low so it might not be outside the realm of possibility that a rival noble did it who had the support of most of the other nobles... or just found a way to remove them or blackmail them into submission making a unified Maretonia undoing a lot of our work. If it was our freedom fighter friends then that might start a massive witch hunt across the nation where we might need to try and pull out our allies and save as many slaves as we can from being falsely prosecuted and boy oh boy will that turn into a mess if they find evidence linking us to the freedom fighters. If the queen died but all the nobles are still divided then things are still going to be a blood bath down south but as for our nation it wouldn't be to bad as Maretonia did have a smaller army then us and if they have to divided it further to fight amongst themselves, and seeing how we have heard nothing of them growing their army all this time, it's unlikely that they would send any serious offensives our way during a civil war. However I could see raids into our lands to grab slaves increase since griffins were seen as a luxury item to them and with no one keep a firm hand... uh hoof on some of the more hotblooded and shortsighted nobles I could see some of them using this mess as an opportunity to "try" and raise their social standing by collecting so exotic slaves even if doing so would just fuck themselves and everyone else over in the long run.
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Exactly. I feel like what we're going to see is a Game of Thrones-style free-for-all, between various noble alliances. And likely, while the nobles focus more resources on each other, a slave rebellion.
We may also see Maretonia fracture entirely into successor states. I can't recall if there was any lore on their situation during Discord's reign, but the strong nobility points to pre-existing petty kingdoms. So there may be a reversion to that.
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If I remember correctly the only thing we know is that they would expand but taking outlying towns by nothing about pre existing kingdoms so who knows
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If I knew how it went down and a bit more aobut her... maybe? Currently doing another omake atm thats halfway done. Have hit a bit of a roadblock with it though.
there is a canon omake that gives a good view of her personality and thought process here, under Back at Marethon
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Ah yes the Viking raids. I guess it's time to crash build our navy
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oh, read that! just meant more her background and family she might have had, who she would think about in her last moments, who exactly betrayed her, that sort of thing,there is a canon omake that gives a good view of her personality and thought process here, under Back at Marethon
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I suggest seeing how things are currently faring (loyalists are currently decapitated/floundering with true or "false" reports of the queen's demise).
We need to see which side is currently on top (probably the nobles) then act accordingly (help the loyalists if the gap is close enough for us to tip it (discretely of course) or sabotage the enemy by eliminating competent noble commanders and such if the nobles are winning, so when war comes the nobles will be lead by the incompetent (a moron is less dangerous than a nonmagical sombra wannabe)
We need to see which side is currently on top (probably the nobles) then act accordingly (help the loyalists if the gap is close enough for us to tip it (discretely of course) or sabotage the enemy by eliminating competent noble commanders and such if the nobles are winning, so when war comes the nobles will be lead by the incompetent (a moron is less dangerous than a nonmagical sombra wannabe)
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we need it for Maretonia anyway after all.
I wonder how many Carracks does Neighpon have... I'd expect more than us, especially if they proceeded to convert their existing warships.. but how many?
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I dunno why you guys are feeling bad about the coup. This is great! A chance to either permanently weaken Mareia or permanently bind them to the empire. Chances like this don't come around often.
The problem is our defensive line isn't ready yet, so we would need to hold back much of our force to prevent the army elements of the enemy from raiding us.
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It's not that we feel bad about it exactly.
We just wanted more time to prepare, which to be fair would have been the case no matter how many more turns we ended up having.
Also we STILL don't know WHO killed the queen, and what are the current faction in Maretonia, so we're currently unable to judge the situation.
We'll now have to accelerate our preparations, especially if the ones in charge are stupid nobles wishing to "prove their strenght" by attacking us and/or acquiring some crystal ponies or gryphons. Or, Emperor forbid, some of those new "hippogriphs" they heard rumors about.
Or, if they don't wish to attack us (as we are, after all, a pretty strong empire) they might decide to attack Libertalia, Neighpon or Canterbury, in which case we'll likely have to get involved anyway).
Or they might even decide to attack the Minotaur Republic as revenge for them "breaking their deals". In which case we might gain a lot from helping them.
Basically, IF Maretonia tries anything outside its borders we HAVE to get involved, and if they don't we probably should depending on their internal situation.
well, the Hardbeak Line will be ready at the end of the next turn, and preparing an army to attack takes time. Unless they attack us immediately it should be ready.
Of course we have a lot of things we should/could do to be even readier: get allied militaries involved, get the yak oricalchum, hire more soldiers, create a pony division in our army, weapon upgrades, logistics, magical improvements...
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Meh, coups and civil wars alike are messy. In that aspect, we would have less to worry about with a direct invasion than with the Sombra issue, so it's possible that we might not have great need of the defensive line if we seize this opportunity in the correct way. That correct way could be further intrigue, or it could be through direct military action. Either way, domestic unrest is unlikely to have them be a unified threat. If they are a unified threat, we can simply make them disunified.