Good thing most species of the world are not like humans then.

The most prevalent species here worships two living goddesses and they are more or less fine.
more like demi-goddesses, and there's never been an explicit church about them. When your benevolent queen princess has been around for more than a thousand years, respect bordering on worship is pretty much inevitable.

And these princess was always able to tell someone when what they were doing "in her name" was NOT fine.

I don't know too much about 40k, but I'm pretty sure the human God-Emperor is not currently capable of communicating with his subject, which is probably part of the reason everything went how it went.
 
more like demi-goddesses, and there's never been an explicit church about them. When your benevolent queen princess has been around for more than a thousand years, respect bordering on worship is pretty much inevitable.

And these princess was always able to tell someone when what they were doing "in her name" was NOT fine.

I don't know too much about 40k, but I'm pretty sure the human God-Emperor is not currently capable of communicating with his subject, which is probably part of the reason everything went how it went.
Never said 40k but he said ALL living worship ends badly. I used an example of the mlp world to show that, at least in this world, that isnt a garrunteed
 
Good thing most species of the world are not like humans then.

The most prevalent species here worships two living goddesses and they are more or less fine.

when they are two living god wich for a matter of fact dont ask for worship nor have a organized church

celestia and luna beliefs is a pretty personal experience without a religious organization leading it
said organizations by definition will try to push back other beliefs and mess with politics

when you are the god of the church you cant simple keep the separation between state and religion
''but we were only enforcing your godhood by taking taxes for you my god''
kind of situation will arise a lot of times

is like if jesus was president but at the same time jesus defended non religious state and other religions (when he is supposed to be the only god that should be praised)
state building 101:religion shouldnt mess with administration
 
is like if jesus was president but at the same time jesus defended non religious state and other religions (when he is supposed to be the only god that should be praised)
I feel like it would be pretty different if Jesus was around and a firm supporter of freedom of religion. Religious leaders have a much easier time of telling people that their god demands that everyone only worship him when their god isn't around to make public statements to the contrary.
 
As someone who is hoping to make a career out of history and is very familiar with 40k, I feel I should add my two cents.

Firstly, the concept that religion should not mix with administration and vice verse is all good in theory, but much like life, things are rarely so one sidedly easy. I could say that the state should have no authority on religion, but that leaves religion either powerless or with all the power to influence their worshippers. And the same goes for the other way as well.

Secondly, the concept that worship of living beings as gods is bad, or is inherently bad, as has been brought with examples of the Imperial Creed of 40k by the Imperium. I mean, the imperial creed is literally the most extreme case possible, but on the other hand, I wouldn't consider the Emperors plan any better in some ways. I could also bring up the Buddha and the Dalhi Lama, or the worship of Jesus Christ while he was alive. Basically, not always, and not all the time.

Trash post will probably be up later.
 
I feel like it would be pretty different if Jesus was around and a firm supporter of freedom of religion. Religious leaders have a much easier time of telling people that their god demands that everyone only worship him when their god isn't around to make public statements to the contrary.
Well, in that scenario I would imagine it would be more like "Hey you guys should worship me, but if you don't, I'm not going to kill you, add a nonbeliever tax or give you any other legal punishment for not doing so (except in the afterlife)."
As someone who is hoping to make a career out of history and is very familiar with 40k, I feel I should add my two cents.

Firstly, the concept that religion should not mix with administration and vice verse is all good in theory, but much like life, things are rarely so one sidedly easy. I could say that the state should have no authority on religion, but that leaves religion either powerless or with all the power to influence their worshippers. And the same goes for the other way as well.

Secondly, the concept that worship of living beings as gods is bad, or is inherently bad, as has been brought with examples of the Imperial Creed of 40k by the Imperium. I mean, the imperial creed is literally the most extreme case possible, but on the other hand, I wouldn't consider the Emperors plan any better in some ways. I could also bring up the Buddha and the Dalhi Lama, or the worship of Jesus Christ while he was alive. Basically, not always, and not all the time.

Trash post will probably be up later.
Also there were the Pharaohs who were considered gods incarnate. I also feel that would be the closest to our Imperial-family cult, considering that Garrick will die eventually and everyone after him who gains the title will probably be considered the next god-emperor (probably as long as they have a traceable Gold-Feather line and they don't gain the title because they ran out of Golden-Feathers to put on the throne).
 
So how should our king be buried once he dies anyway?
We should make a tomb with a statue for each ruler and a small plaque telling of their achievements and reign as decided by their subjects (As in our subjects choose what they believe are our greatest achievements in their eyes, what they believe is our legacy)

Each ruled will be buried there, possibly using Yak magic to ensure that in times of great need they can ask the past rulers a single question during their reign.


One question per ruler and they may only ask one past ruler.


Basically a combination shrine to the dead, a tribute to their deeds, and a way for future rulers to gain advice from those who came before them.



Sound good?


Im fact we should probably have something like that as an option just in case.

Especially since we will probably be giving the throne to our son in a couple of years. Having a resting place ready in case the worst should occur is a spund investment.


Another idea is adding a set of sectret passages and emergency escape routes to the royal palace, again, in case the worst should happen. Add in some stocked bunkers where the royal family can hide the children and the elderly (those who can fight probably will) would also be smart.





EDIT: Also i kind of want to make a "Rulers of the Past" room like in Star vs the Forces of Evil. Possibly with a mosiac of the rulers of the past and a poem like that room does.
 
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We should make a tomb with a statue for each ruler and a small plaque telling of their achievements and reign as decided by their subjects (As in our subjects choose what they believe are our greatest achievements in their eyes, what they believe is our legacy)

Each ruled will be buried there, possibly using Yak magic to ensure that in times of great need they can ask the past rulers a single question during their reign.


One question per ruler and they may only ask one past ruler.


Basically a combination shrine to the dead, a tribute to their deeds, and a way for future rulers to gain advice from those who came before them.



Sound good?


Im fact we should probably have something like that as an option just in case.

Especially since we will probably be giving the throne to our son in a couple of years. Having a resting place ready in case the worst should occur is a spund investment.


Another idea is adding a set of sectret passages and emergency escape routes to the royal palace, again, in case the worst should happen. Add in some stocked bunkers where the royal family can hide the children and the elderly (those who can fight probably will) would also be smart.





EDIT: Also i kind of want to make a "Rulers of the Past" room like in Star vs the Forces of Evil. Possibly with a mosiac of the rulers of the past and a poem like that room does.
I really like the idea of having a grand burial place for our rulers with the statues and plaque dedicated to our achievements by our people. As for the question thing not sure if it will be allowed but if it is that would be amazing.
 
We should make a tomb with a statue for each ruler and a small plaque telling of their achievements and reign as decided by their subjects (As in our subjects choose what they believe are our greatest achievements in their eyes, what they believe is our legacy)

Each ruled will be buried there, possibly using Yak magic to ensure that in times of great need they can ask the past rulers a single question during their reign.


One question per ruler and they may only ask one past ruler.


Basically a combination shrine to the dead, a tribute to their deeds, and a way for future rulers to gain advice from those who came before them.



Sound good?


Im fact we should probably have something like that as an option just in case.

Especially since we will probably be giving the throne to our son in a couple of years. Having a resting place ready in case the worst should occur is a spund investment.


Another idea is adding a set of sectret passages and emergency escape routes to the royal palace, again, in case the worst should happen. Add in some stocked bunkers where the royal family can hide the children and the elderly (those who can fight probably will) would also be smart.





EDIT: Also i kind of want to make a "Rulers of the Past" room like in Star vs the Forces of Evil. Possibly with a mosiac of the rulers of the past and a poem like that room does.
Like it, but make it an Hallway of Kings. The Past Emperors have their bodies transformed into stone statues or Diamond.
 
We should make a tomb with a statue for each ruler and a small plaque telling of their achievements and reign as decided by their subjects (As in our subjects choose what they believe are our greatest achievements in their eyes, what they believe is our legacy)

Each ruled will be buried there, possibly using Yak magic to ensure that in times of great need they can ask the past rulers a single question during their reign.


One question per ruler and they may only ask one past ruler.


Basically a combination shrine to the dead, a tribute to their deeds, and a way for future rulers to gain advice from those who came before them.



Sound good?


Im fact we should probably have something like that as an option just in case.

Especially since we will probably be giving the throne to our son in a couple of years. Having a resting place ready in case the worst should occur is a spund investment.


Another idea is adding a set of sectret passages and emergency escape routes to the royal palace, again, in case the worst should happen. Add in some stocked bunkers where the royal family can hide the children and the elderly (those who can fight probably will) would also be smart.





EDIT: Also i kind of want to make a "Rulers of the Past" room like in Star vs the Forces of Evil. Possibly with a mosiac of the rulers of the past and a poem like that room does.
To be honest, if we decide to do multiple tombs for rulers rather than one great Royal Catacombs, I think it would be cool to put Garrick and his wife's tomb near or on the mountainous range where the resurgent empire defended from Sombra's forces.
 
To be honest, if we decide to do multiple tombs for rulers rather than one great Royal Catacombs, I think it would be cool to put Garrick and his wife's tomb near or on the mountainous range where the resurgent empire defended from Sombra's forces.
I would have to disagree there I say the place for the burial should be griffinstone i think that's the name. The center of the empire where we formed the new empire and where the old was formed. Or maybe next to the memorial burial where all the dead are remember. Which I think is also at the center town.
 
Like it, but make it an Hallway of Kings. The Past Emperors have their bodies transformed into stone statues or Diamond.
Maybe crystal unicorns entomb past emperors in a layer of crystal so that they are forever preserved as they were in their final moments.

To be honest, if we decide to do multiple tombs for rulers rather than one great Royal Catacombs, I think it would be cool to put Garrick and his wife's tomb near or on the mountainous range where the resurgent empire defended from Sombra's forces.

I would rather do one major royal catacomb or necropolis. It would not only make for an incredible landmark and symbol for the people it would also create a centralized area for those who wish to pay their respects to the rulers of the past.

Heck, we could even make a order of knights dedicated to protecting the resting place of the past rulers and ensure their rest remains peaceful (possibly also being a force specializing in fighting undead and against necromancy).

I would have to disagree there I say the place for the burial should be griffinstone i think that's the name. The center of the empire where we formed the new empire and where the old was formed. Or maybe next to the memorial burial where all the dead are remember. Which I think is also at the center town.

Nah, it needs to be put in the true center of the Empire and a place where each race in our empire (Crystal Ponies, Griffons, and Diamond Dogs) can reach with equal ease. Maybe somewhere between the Crystal empire and Griffonia.

After all, I expect that when we die there is probably going to be a time of great mourning among the crystal ponies especially since not only are we responsible for freeing them we have also protected them and are incredibly revered there.
 
We should make a tomb with a statue for each ruler and a small plaque telling of their achievements and reign as decided by their subjects.

Each ruled will be buried there, possibly using Yak magic to ensure that in times of great need they can ask the past rulers a single question during their reign.


One question per ruler and they may only ask one past ruler.
Why only one question? Wouldn't it be better to be able to commune with past rulers at any time?



As for me, I want us to be buried with our soldiers. Those who died in battle, at Wingbarfy, at Redstone Pass, and at Crystal City. It will symbolize that despite our position we never thought of ourselves as above the common grif, and that we remember our roots and always sought to do what was best for our people. Above all else, it will show that we did not spend our people's lives casually, nor for self interest. That's the kind of message that I want to send to our descendants, and to every citizen of our nation for the rest of history. That a ruler is not above the commoner, and that the ruler's job is to do what is right for their people.
 
I would have to disagree there I say the place for the burial should be griffinstone i think that's the name. The center of the empire where we formed the new empire and where the old was formed. Or maybe next to the memorial burial where all the dead are remember. Which I think is also at the center town.
A Massive underground family tomb extending from the Palace to the inside of a mountain, with each wall covered in different deeds and statues and tombs of the Emperors/Empresses, with smaller ones for the Heroes of the Age, preserved in stone of Crystal for all time.
 
Maybe crystal unicorns entomb past emperors in a layer of crystal so that they are forever preserved as they were in their final moments.



I would rather do one major royal catacomb or necropolis. It would not only make for an incredible landmark and symbol for the people it would also create a centralized area for those who wish to pay their respects to the rulers of the past.

Heck, we could even make a order of knights dedicated to protecting the resting place of the past rulers and ensure their rest remains peaceful (possibly also being a force specializing in fighting undead and against necromancy).



Nah, it needs to be put in the true center of the Empire and a place where each race in our empire (Crystal Ponies, Griffons, and Diamond Dogs) can reach with equal ease. Maybe somewhere between the Crystal empire and Griffonia.

After all, I expect that when we die there is probably going to be a time of great mourning among the crystal ponies especially since not only are we responsible for freeing them we have also protected them and are incredibly revered there.
Eh we'll see where the options are. Probably some place important.
 
Why only one question? Wouldn't it be better to be able to commune with past rulers at any time?

Mainly so it isn't to OP and is more likely to go through rather than be shot down at the gate by the QM.

As for me, I want us to be buried with our soldiers. Those who died in battle, at Wingbarfy, at Redstone Pass, and at Crystal City. It will symbolize that despite our position we never thought of ourselves as above the common grif, and that we remember our roots and always sought to do what was best for our people. Above all else, it will show that we did not spend our people's lives casually, nor for self interest. That's the kind of message that I want to send to our descendants, and to every citizen of our nation for the rest of history. That a ruler is not above the commoner, and that the ruler's job is to do what is right for their people.

Yes but that would not have the same cultural and symbolic meaning as having a royal catacomb or necropolis in a location for the people to visit and pay their respects to the rulers of the past. It would also make for a very big historic landmark and symbol.

A Massive underground family tomb extending from the Palace to the inside of a mountain, with each wall covered in different deeds and statues and tombs of the Emperors/Empresses, with smaller ones for the Heroes of the Age, preserved in stone of Crystal for all time.
Not covered. That would be a bit much. A small plaque would work well enough. Other than that it sounds really epic.
 
Oh yeah we probably should make some orders to defend cemeteries or old battlefields if a necromancer comes thinking to make an undead army out of our fallen.
 
Eh we'll see where the options are. Probably some place important.
Burial at sea.... then some pirates steal the burning ship,
Oh yeah we probably should make some orders to defend cemeteries or old battlefields if a necromancer comes thinking to make an undead army out of our fallen.
is necromancy a school of magic here though? And I don't think any but The Maretonians would do so just to spite us and even then probably not. I do agree however we should protect them regardless. An establishment of the Knights of Morr or something like that.
 
is necromancy a school of magic here though? And I don't think any but The Maretonians would do so just to spite us and even then probably not. I do agree however we should protect them regardless. An establishment of the Knights of Morr or something like that.
There's actually there's a faction of undead in the game this quest is base off, so I guess a 50/50 chance of necromancers or vampires to cause trouble for us.
 
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Let's just hope that all of our orders won't get corrupted over time cause I would not like to see one of our orders turn into Blood Knights, once our heir takes over.
Doubt it.

If only due to our resident Kingslayer who has become a living symbol and major inspiration for knighthood everywhere and their current one sided rivalry with the land of lakes knights (forget the specific name).

Also that man has also earned a memorial of his own as well as a fancy tomb as well.
 
I'm curious to see what Questor does give us for options when we do die since it will have to be something big and there will be at least a year of mourning. If not more.
 
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