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Who Needs Harmony?: An MLP Empire Quest

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hold on... did we actually win a war by (inter personal) diplomacy? alright that redefines "soft power" in the Griphon book.
How do the phrase it in a catchy manner? One kiss a day keep the Dark Emperor away?
PS: IF we are going to study that book (which i am not sure we will right now, as we lack magic expertise) I suggest the reader keeps it in a orichalcum frame.
 
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Silversun17 said:
do we have to colonize this hellhole? could we just relocate the heart, the ponies and everything of value to the empire?
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There are enough examples (historical and contemporary) of refugee crises and other mass immigration events causing civil unrest to make that a questionable decision outside the short term.

I expect that the CE probably will start turning into an actual viable place to live now that there aren't windigos around to force it into permanent winter. At worst it'll be like Siberia or Alaska, which are still perfectly habitable even if most people would prefer to live closer to the equator.

Bear in mind though that we're to the north of them and I don't think we're in the equivalent of the southern hemisphere, so unless the world's outright flat or otherwise completely ignores basic climate geography they should probably end up being warmer than we are. And before you bring up Discord, I'll point out he's been gone for quite a few years at this point, so large-scale geographical climates should be behaving in ways that make some degree of sense by now.
 
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Like I said before, we're probably going to spend at least one of each diplomacy and stewardship to helping ponies. Maybe learning, to figure out the best ways to help them recover
 
Well, damn. Was saving omakes for the actual battle, but seems THE POWER OF LOVE is just too strong.

Hooray for harmony!

On another note, now its time to party like the end of a touhou game and let EVERYONE GET DRUNK!

Requesting for an option to have a giant party with all our allies please. And NATIONAL HOLIDAY option.

I'm going to suspect there will be a large boom in population in the near future. Just sayin.
 
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@Questor

How many Crystal ponies are left number wise?, is there even enough to populate the crystal empire?, do they even want to continue to live here as I suspect that even with Sombra gone they are all going to be scared by their experiences here and may not want to be reminded of it by living here.
 
hyperspacemage said:
I for one think we should study the book. Stop jumping to conclusions guys that's a great way to really screw up. Sure take some safety measures but maybe this could be a way for us to get magic. We should study it why would it be locked up with the crystal heart if it was so bad?
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Accept that it may be the source of his power, why keep it with the crystal heart? The place he knew was the center of his protection. Also that cover looks like its made out of different skins, what book does that? Besides leather bound books from cows, this is magical land where its very possible all the animals are capable of thought, so in that context that makes that book even worse.

Edit: Besides why we need magic? We been doing so far without it, why take any risk with obvious evil looking things to try and get power.
 
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zac1 said:
Accept that it may be the source of his power, why keep it with the crystal heart? The place he knew was the center of his protection. Also that cover looks like its made out of different skins, what book does that? Besides leather bound books from cows, this is magical land where its very possible all the animals are capable of thought, so in that context that makes that book even worse.

Edit: Besides why we need magic? We been doing so far without it, why take any risk with obvious evil looking things to try and get power.
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Not saying we shouldnt burn it, but I can see an argument for keeping it around if it has some knowledge on how to counter other dark magic in it, and knowledge on how it works would lead to being able to figure out how to dismantle this kind of stuff in the future.

Of course, the thing looks evil as all hell, and chances are reading it could corrupt the reader... Like, if there's a way to transcribe the important bits, like have one researcher read one page, have another read another page, and just right down their thoughts, and then destroy it after, then it could be worth it.

Unless it has something like the sealed souls of the damned or something within it. In that case, burning the thing could just unleash a terrible, unspeakable evil upon the world. You know, something that could send hardbeak off into the far future, where evil is law, or somesuch...
 
Maybe make the book a cover of orichalcum, and work with it in an orichalcum chamber in full orichalcum plate?

Like with hazardous material it is. All the precautions, as if working with uranium.
 
Lisain said:
Not saying we shouldnt burn it, but I can see an argument for keeping it around if it has some knowledge on how to counter other dark magic in it, and knowledge on how it works would lead to being able to figure out how to dismantle this kind of stuff in the future.

Of course, the thing looks evil as all hell, and chances are reading it could corrupt the reader... Like, if there's a way to transcribe the important bits, like have one researcher read one page, have another read another page, and just right down their thoughts, and then destroy it after, then it could be worth it.

Unless it has something like the sealed souls of the damned or something within it. In that case, burning the thing could just unleash a terrible, unspeakable evil upon the world. You know, something that could send hardbeak off into the far future, where evil is law, or somesuch...
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Accept its still an evil book of evil evilness of pure evil, thats how evil it feels. Im not comfortable on keeping something like that. Im not willing to have magic powers if it came from such an obvious evil source. Besides, we dont have to burn it. Stab it with spikes of orichalcum till there is no more magic, tear it apart and burn each piece of it in a container made of Orichalcum. Like removing hazardous waste, be thorough.
 
Silversun17 said:
do we have to colonize this hellhole? could we just relocate the heart, the ponies and everything of value to the empire?
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No we do not. Also the land is bascilly worthless at this point if we want to fix it we need to take actions to start the long process of repairing. Decades of damage and neglect have killed off everything. The CP best chance is to move to the allied kingdoms and Empire to recover and then return later once we have made the land livable.
azereath said:
@Questor

How many Crystal ponies are left number wise?, is there even enough to populate the crystal empire?, do they even want to continue to live here as I suspect that even with Sombra gone they are all going to be scared by their experiences here and may not want to be reminded of it by living here.
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They can't remain the land is a wasteland not at all like any normal place like Siberia and Alaska. There is nothing to support them in it they need to be moved somewhere else to recover.

zac1 said:
Accept that it may be the source of his power, why keep it with the crystal heart? The place he knew was the center of his protection. Also that cover looks like its made out of different skins, what book does that? Besides leather bound books from cows, this is magical land where its very possible all the animals are capable of thought, so in that context that makes that book even worse.

Edit: Besides why we need magic? We been doing so far without it, why take any risk with obvious evil looking things to try and get power.
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Not all animals are Sapient we have farm animals as well. Certain species are Sapient like us but most animals are no different from their real-world counterparts.


Also burn that book. We want nothing to do with anything that is connected with Sombra. We destroyed his horn for a reason after all. This is even worse than that. No matter what it is there is no reason to risk it. If we were the only ones around then maybe we would but we have people now that are magic and this book is the most obvious source of corruption so it must be destroyed.
 
Well, the big issue with the Crystal Ponies is that they literally cannot take care of themselves at this point. All of them are, to a one, heavily traumatized, many of them are dead, their infrastructure is in tatters, and they don't really have a 'chain of command' so much as they have a few mostly-destroyed bits of moth-eaten string. And among those nations represented here, we're the only ones that can reliably prop up the Crystal Empire and keep them all from starving. It's basically the War of Unification all over again, only worse this time, because back then even the very worst of our enemies weren't as cruel and callous as Sombra. As to the Crystal Ponies... I think they're just happy to be both free and alive at this point. I also think it's safe to say that it'll help that the Griffon Emperor was the one to reignite the Crystal Heart and defeat Sombra, in addition to the fact that this entire time he's been freeing Crystal Ponies and trying desperately to take care of them. Right now the main problem is logistics, I.E. trying to keep everyone from starving.
 
zac1 said:
Accept its still an evil book of evil evilness of pure evil, thats how evil it feels. Im not comfortable on keeping something like that. Im not willing to have magic powers if it came from such an obvious evil source. Besides, we dont have to burn it. Stab it with spikes of orichalcum till there is no more magic, tear it apart and burn each piece of it in a container made of Orichalcum. Like removing hazardous waste, be thorough.
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Just playing devils advocate. I too, want that book gone.
 
backgroundnoise said:
Well, the big issue with the Crystal Ponies is that they literally cannot take care of themselves at this point. All of them are, to a one, heavily traumatized, many of them are dead, their infrastructure is in tatters, and they don't really have a 'chain of command' so much as they have a few mostly-destroyed bits of moth-eaten string. And among those nations represented here, we're the only ones that can reliably prop up the Crystal Empire and keep them all from starving. It's basically the War of Unification all over again, only worse this time, because back then even the very worst of our enemies weren't as cruel and callous as Sombra. As to the Crystal Ponies... I think they're just happy to be both free and alive at this point. I also think it's safe to say that it'll help that the Griffon Emperor was the one to reignite the Crystal Heart and defeat Sombra, in addition to the fact that this entire time he's been freeing Crystal Ponies and trying desperately to take care of them. Right now the main problem is logistics, I.E. trying to keep everyone from starving.
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We have more than enough food to support sevearl times our population. The CP cannot number more than a few tens thousands at this point may be a couple hundred thousand but nothing we cannot handle. We also have people moving to the western frontier so we have space in the core of the Empire to settle them there and in the frontier as well.
 
Adventwolf said:
We have more than enough food to support sevearl times our population. The CP cannot number more than a few tens thousands at this point may be a couple hundred thousand but nothing we cannot handle. We also have people moving to the western frontier so we have space in the core of the Empire to settle them there and in the frontier as well.
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Thus why I called it a logistics issue and not an issue of supply, we just have to find a relatively safe way to feed the Crystal Ponies until they can start to feed themselves again. Which is going to be hard unless the terrain has since vastly improved with the defeat of Sombra and the dispersal of the minions.
 
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How long have the crystal ponies been under Sombra?
And also what happened to that statue of Sombra's ...something that he kept in his room? That thing was cannon, right?
 
backgroundnoise said:
Thus why I called it a logistics issue and not an issue of supply, we just have to find a relatively safe way to feed the Crystal Ponies until they can start to feed themselves again. Which is going to be hard unless the terrain has since vastly improved with the defeat of Sombra and the dispersal of the minions.
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It has not. The land is worthless for supporting anyone. The CP need to be moved into the Allied Kingdom and Empire if they are to survive. No one is staying in this wasteland.

andreicata said:
How long have the crystal ponies been under Sombra?
And also what happened to that statue of Sombra's ...something that he kept in his room? That thing was cannon, right?
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Depending on when Sombra took control if it was only after Discord's defeat then nearly two decades. Considering he is an adult and he found out what he was fairly young I am going to say he took over during Discord's reign. That means several decades at least.
 
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