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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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[X] Kragg the Grim
[X] Kazrik and the Dwarves of Karak Azul
[X] Edda and the Cult of Valaya
 
voting for the interesting, rather than pragmatic choices; the pragmatic choices have plenty of votes already.
[x] Cython
[x] The We
[x] Kragg the Grim
 
Asheram said:
On the Eike subject, I'm partial to Belegar, Kazrik, and Dreng. It's three dwarves with three different mindsets of Dawi tradition.
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Dreng is not a traditionalist. Dreng is an ex-Clanless ex-Ranger. If you want a traditionalist representative the closest is Edda I think.

TimEd said:
Man, I am so tempted to vote for Cython and the We. Both would be terrible in that they aren't dwarves though, which is sad. If we had 4 choices, I would definitely be pushing for it. With the 3 we have though, maybe the We could still be a worthwhile introduction. Expand Eike's horizon, while also being a look behind the curtains on weird places Profit could be found.
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@BoneyM could we ever repeat the Eike action for three different choices?
IronFist said:
Also, seems rude not to.
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Rude towards who? The king of a nation who doesn't get to meet the heir of an old friend/colleague of ours or the eleven year old burgher heiress to a CEO position and tradecraft riches that is denied a visit to the king of the nation she's vacationing in?
Execute/Dumbo said:
"Hey, kid, I got a form of magic that doesn't have any of the compatibility issues that multiple winds do."
"Well, golly, really?"
"Yeah, yeahyeahyeah, it's even more powerful than any of the winds individually. Some small mental hurdles, but I'm sure you'll acclimate."
"What's it called then sir?"
"Dhhhh...rugs."
"Drugs?"
"Drugs, yeah."
"I dunno..."
"Well TOO LATE"
Demon throws off cloak to reveal body of pure dhar
"AH YOU TRICKED ME"
"I honestly don't know what you were expecting! HAHAHAHA-"
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Joking aside, the Lore of Tzeentch is most likely the Lore most capable of interacting with all kinds of other Lores and achieve useful results that go beyond Dhar contamination.
The3rdCorinthian said:
I mean sure, but its infinitely more sinister than literally everything Horstmann has done so far.
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I might be missing something. Sure, it's rude to pepper "subtle" criticisms regarding your colleagues into normal business meetings with outsiders and thereby airing your Order's dirty laundry, but you seem to have read something far more concerning into it. Care to enlighten me?
DragonParadox said:
I get where you are coming from but on the other hand are we really here for her to have fun. This was sold to her guardian as a means to learn about dwarfs, no more and no less.
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It could be argued that Eike has far too little fun in her education. At least from what we've seen.
Potus said:
If we don't tell anyone about it, what's the harm in trying the magic more? We've kept secrets since the beginning of this quest, what's one more going to do to us.
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Mostly that it has lot its value. This method is very unlikely to be more powerful than normal spell casting. And if we want to go for power while ignoring legality then we're better off recreating the Lore of Stealth or some other Dhar hybrid than sticking to weak half measures.
Jyn Ryvia said:
otherwise all she will get from it is 'dwarfs are hard to work with.'
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That alone is valuable, as long as it doesn't become "Dwarves are not worth working with".
B_omega said:
Regaring the experience i found it very enlightening. Very interesting

Its like a manipulating metal with glove of magnetic iron where any attempt to hold it would see it pushed away, but slightly wrong and the metal will flip and attached itself to your metal glove and its game over (Dhar).

Its a lot like manipulating magnet yes?

What if.. the amount of wind can be precisely manipulated? And using precisely tuned method we can make the metal float?

I dont think any mortal can do it, but perhaps... an engine can. A runic engine that the dwafs might create to manipulate winds.

Not Dhar, but could it be a way yo push other wind (there must be some sort of safety feature to prevent the wind from touching) and manipulate it so it can be usefull for something.

Perhaps even harmonize them..



Anyway this might be even more difficult then waystone
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You forget that both the gloves and the metal object are also partially alive and rebellious.

pucflek said:
How much political goodwill it takes to get a sanctioned negotation meeting with Ex Matriarch Lady Magister in what is sure to create a tussle in Light College hierarchy, weighted against how useful the project is.
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So Kurtis knows about all the issues here? Just how loud of a whiner is Egrimm?
Mopman43 said:
The Light College wanted to know that this was a valuable project to be putting Egrimm on it.
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Why from Kurtis as a middle man though? I know it's part of his job, but we didn't need him when we were recruiting for Karak Dum, did we?
Jyn Ryvia said:
Because he is the guy incharge of intercollegiate negotiations: such as hiring a light wizard for a secret project.
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Hmm. So will we have to rely on him for all recruitment attempts to WEB-MAT that don't involve people we already have a personal relation with? Should we have a few social turn interactions with him before tackling the Jade College?
Derpmind said:
My objection there is that Edda is rather similar to someone Eike already knows well and spends a lot of time around. Namely, Wilhelmina.
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Outside of a talent for logistics those two are nothing alike.
 
The3rdCorinthian said:
Grey vow of Poverty. There's ways you circumvent it, but she couldn't Inherit the EIC, as Wilhelmina wants her to do
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Either we get her some dampeners, or maybe hand her to the golds if she wants to be a wizard?
Or if she wants to be a grey wizard, we make damn sure she understands the limitations that come with it, and not just the cool spooky towers and terrifying reputation.
 
Xepheria said:
So what I'm hearing is that we pull a Regimand and take her under our wing when she hits senior apprentice? :V
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She's far more likely to be a Gold wizard than any other wind given her upbringing. And Grey would be one of the worst possibilities for her, what with the Vow of Poverty and all. She wouldn't be able to get around giving up the EIC.
 
College analysis below:
Best bet would be the gold college or celestial college.
Amethysts can be wealthy, but have to give up their inheritance.
Greys have the Vow of Poverty
Ambers tend to not do well in cities
Jade have that mystery cult thing, which might not be a great idea
Light doesn't have monetary issues, but getting out of the choirs might be a challenge
The Bright college has a tendency to produce artillery
The Gold college is the one likeliest to teach financial sense
And the Celestial college would probably have significant benefits on the business side... assuming she doesn't have Hubert-like problems
 
Valmond said:
Either we get her some dampeners, or maybe hand her to the golds if she wants to be a wizard?
Or if she wants to be a grey wizard, we make damn sure she understands the limitations that come with it, and not just the cool spooky towers and terrifying reputation.
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Ah yes... limitations like the Vow of Poverty. Why Mathilde has had to live in utter destitution the poor dear... wait. Alright maybe not destitution but she still could not hold shares in a massive company. I mean what kind of idiot who does not understand the meaning of the word poverty would allow... oh no.

Look Eike you have to just trust us that the Vow of Poverty is a thing that exists and not just us wishing to keep you from all the cool shadow magic... :V
 
[X] Kazrik and the Dwarves of Karak Azul
[X] Edda and the Cult of Valaya
[X] Panoramia, Hluodwica, and the Halflings

I was convinced by the arguments of how seeing both sides of Dwarf-Human interaction is worthwhile, and the halflings are there to nip potential Stirland prejudice in the bud.

(Edda was also done dirty by the dice so I look forward to giving her more screen time).
 
Why would she be Grey when she could take GOLD for MAXIMUM PROFITS as she casts FINAL TRANSMUTATION on enemies of the empire with her best pal, BALTHAZAR GELT.
 
IronFist said:
Best bet would be the gold college or celestial college.
Amethysts can be wealthy, but have to give up their inheritance.
Greys have the Vow of Poverty
Ambers tend to not do well in cities
Jade have that mystery cult thing, which might not be a great idea
Light doesn't have monetary issues, but getting out of the choirs might be a challenge
The Bright college has a tendency to produce artillery
The Gold college is the one likeliest to teach financial sense
And the Celestial college would probably have significant benefits on the business side... assuming she doesn't have Hubert-like problems
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Though of course, even if she goes into it, there's always the possibility of never getting past Perpetual.
 
Rafin said:
I might be missing something. Sure, it's rude to pepper "subtle" criticisms regarding your colleagues into normal business meetings with outsiders and thereby airing your Order's dirty laundry, but you seem to have read something far more concerning into it. Care to enlighten me?
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I meant in comparison - The most I felt we'd gotten from Horst felt like Boney putting in relatively innocent stuff that would only even be suspicious because it was Horstmann Saying it. This was more direct criticism, and when i read through it I felt it was criticism of Alric, not Horst (Still not clear on that front).

I don't think either actually is a Traitor, just that She was in comparison.

That said I could have been reading everything so far wrong so... *Shrug*
 
so I think it'd be cool to social vote Whilemeana, I'd like to see her and Mathile talk a little bit about what a being a wizard is like. Maybe bring Eike to see her via gyrocopter when the visit is done?
 
Wilhelmina is absolutely going to murder Mat for this. You know... she could always go be a priest. That's an option. A priest of Ranald has no reason not to own stuff. Or Rhya. Unlike Taal, Rhya is the goddess of nature and it's civilized parts. Of harvest, midwifery and tame lands. And Mat has seen that some priests can channel godly power, and that godly power is sort of like magic.

Magical priest girl Eika-san: GO!
This is going to get interesting.
 
primemountain said:
Wilhelmina is absolutely going to murder Mat for this. You know... she could always go be a priest. That's an option. A priest of Ranald has no reason not to own stuff. Or Rhya. Unlike Taal, Rhya is the goddess of nature and it's civilized parts. Of harvest, midwifery and tame lands. And Mat has seen that some priests can channel godly power, and that godly power is sort of like magic.

Magical priest girl Eika-san: GO!
This is going to get interesting.
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Eike mainly worships Shallya.
 
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