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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Swapped to waystone and bodyguard. As it might alllow us to pick up a student.
 
Briefvoice said:
I recognize the irony in pumping an option I'm not voting for, but I can't believe no one is talking about the elven magical secrets this might unlock.
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I mean, I kinda assumed everybody was considering that anyways. It's definitely cool, but actually going on adventures is just slightly more interesting to me than all of that. On the other hand if Waystones does win, I will be quite happy to take advantage of that.

Actually, I'd almost forgotten, but... we're going to need magical languages if we want to figure out the Waystones, aren't we? This might be a good time to learn Arcane Khazalid, and if we can convince the Eonir to teach us... what was it, Anoqeyan? The other Old Ones descendant language. That would be fucking awesome. Combined with increasing our diplomacy it's actually a pretty good way to achieve some of my long-standing goals.
 
I've changed my mind. Only going to vote 1 instead of 2. Mostly changing it to be more decisive in the choice what I want instead of floating a bit.

Reasons for now:
Vampires!
Gods I don't know anything about, but wish to read about.
Project pokemon: Getting all the vampire skulls.
A distrustfull people on which we can use the coin of Ranald to "gain" trust, like it happened with the dwarfs of the lost hold.
It was like really dissapointing for Math to lose her job and she started wandering. Now she can return and finish what she started.
Math riding around on shadow steed, being awesome. She can keep on building her legend.

[X] Markgraf of Eastern Stirland
 
[X] Markgraf of Eastern Stirland

Changing here because while I'm very into big magical projects and the cooperation between different groups, I also just want to learn more about the swamp god. Sure that'd only be like, a fifth of what we did there at most, but I'm curious.
 
EternityWarrior said:
This is incredibly sus. Of course you wouldn't want Mathilde to bring order to Sylvania Mr. Von Carstein. We have infiltrators in our midst.
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Dammit! I hate when I have to eliminate counter intelligence agents without preparation, you wouldn't believe how difficult it is to hide bodies without Ulgu!

It's nothing personal, but I really can't let you babble to the GO😉
 
People throw that saying around, that Heidi is fun in small doses but would get exhausting if she became a major character, but... Is that true? Or is it just projecting her character archetype.

We've only had a handful of scenes with Heidi, all spaced apart by several turns at a time. Do we actually know her enough to be certain that she'd be irritating to work under? Frankly, I think her character would become more tolerable as she and Mathilde get to know/work with each other and she eases up on her competitive smug-off with Matty.

That and, well, we wouldn't really be spending all that much time with her? Our job would put us under her authority (well, under the Emperor, actually), but we'd be spending large chunks of it away from the Imperial capitol, and in general we'd only be required to interact with her a handful of times a year.

I'm just saying, if Heidi is the reason any of you aren't voting Bodyguard, maybe it wouldn't be as much a negative as you think.

Edit: There'd be plenty of other interesting characters to interact with as Bodyguard as well. The Count of Wissenland, the Emperor, some of the M/Patriarchs, Dragomas, Algard. There's a lot to it.

And for those of you who want Bodyguard primarily but are approval voting something else to keep a choice you hate out of first, remember that Bodyguard is not out of contention yet. Markgraf is far and away my least favorite vote, but I never voted Waystones (my second-favorite option, nearly as much as Bodyguard) to keep Markgraf out of the lead, even when it was winning. Don't be afraid to only vote for the one specific thing you want. That uncertainty that comes from protest voting only widens the gap, causing other people to change their votes out of fear, etc etc, which leads us to the current position of Bodyguard seemingly falling further and further behind. Just keep holding on, and you might get what you want.
 
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K von Carstein said:
And probably all Elvish mages too, because all elvish magical tradition comes from the White Tower. But I agree that the Colleges wouldn't teach it.
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The wood elf, high elf split happened like more than a thousand years before the founding of the White Tower, which was only brought into full function in 497 IC, while the wood elves officially broke off about (time is convoluted in Athel Loren) -1500 IC.
 
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Inspirit said:
I wonder if Cython would know Anoqeyan? After all, they have been around for a very long time.
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They were around the Dark Elves for a while, but I'm not sure if those guys know it, or if Cython would have learned it regardless. On the other hand, they do know Draconic, and maybe Saurian IIRC? And both of those are languages I would also like to learn at some point.
 
Huh. Do you guys think Cython would be interested in joining the Waystones research?

And if so, would any of the elves be bothered by it? Or would it only be confined to those dragons like Deathfang?
 
Whoa what. Who's going around convincing people to edit votes because Waystones just jumped from 306 to 314 without an equivalent number of vote posts and Markgraf fell in the rankings. Blah.

Between the "Heidi too smug" and the "Heidi too sus" and the "Heidi too unknown" it's a wonder the same people want to work with elves lol. Heidi's no more smug than Mathy when they have their smug-offs. The Elves are inhumanly smug. Literally.
 
Darth. said:
Between the "Heidi too smug" and the "Heidi too sus" and the "Heidi too unknown" it's a wonder the same people want to work with elves lol. Heidi's no more smug than Mathy when they have their smug-offs. The Elves are I humanly smug. Literally.
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Eh, Asarnil didn't come off as that much more smug than Mathilde, and Asarnil is basically to Caledonians what Caledonians are to regular Asur.

And of course Mathilde gets to be smug, it was her co-worker who reeled in Asarnil with nothing but his pretty face (and a bag of gold).
 
TimEd said:
Huh. Do you guys think Cython would be interested in joining the Waystones research?

And if so, would any of the elves be bothered by it? Or would it only be confined to those dragons like Deathfang?
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I did speculate earlier in the thread that Cython might be an option considering they live where we'll be doing most of the research. They probably know more about magic than most elves. I'm not sure how the Eonir would react. They're sort of a blank slate in many ways, since there is very little on the Laurelorn elves in canon.

Darth. said:
Whoa what. Who's going around convincing people to edit votes because Waystones just jumped from 306 to 314 without an equivalent number of vote posts and Markgraf fell in the rankings. Blah.

Between the "Heidi too smug" and the "Heidi too sus" and the "Heidi too unknown" it's a wonder the same people want to work with elves lol. Heidi's no more smug than Mathy when they have their smug-offs. The Elves are inhumanly smug. Literally.
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If it was the Asur, then I'd probably agree, but the Eonir might be less arrogant and smug? Like I said above, they are a bit of a blank slate and we've only had one interaction with them so far.

From what we know about them, they're like the Wood Elves, but aren't quite as close with their forest, and have more radical elf mages from Ulthuan.
 
[x] The Waystone Project

Didn't look at thread for a day, over a hundred new pages.

Yeah I ain't reading that.

As for vote reasoning, I just like this project and think it will be interesting.
 
Sovereign Hunt said:
People throw that saying around, that Heidi is fun in small doses but would get exhausting if she became a major character, but... Is that true? Or is it just projecting her character archetype.

We've only had a handful of scenes with Heidi, all spaced apart by several turns at a time. Do we actually know her enough to be certain that she'd be irritating to work under. Frankly, I think her character would become more tolerable as she and Mathilde get to know/work with each other and she eases up on her competitive smug-off with Matty.

That and, well, we wouldn't really be spending all that much time with her? Our job would put us under her authority (well, under the Emperor, actually), but we'd be spending large chunks of it away from the Imperial capitol, and in general we'd only be required to interact with her a handful of times a year.

I'm just saying, if Heidi is the reason any of you aren't voting Bodyguard, maybe it wouldn't be as much a negative as you think.

Edit: There'd be plenty of other interesting characters to interact with as Bodyguard as well. The Count of Wissenland, the Emperor, some of the M/Patriarchs, Dragomas, Algard. There's a lot to it.
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Personally the scenes we have had with Heidi already are not my favorite, but they are fine because they are in small doses.
We will be under her authority, with her then under the emperor.
Waystones will allow us to in
Darth. said:
Between the "Heidi too smug" and the "Heidi too sus" and the "Heidi too unknown" it's a wonder the same people want to work with elves lol. Heidi's no more smug than Mathy when they have their smug-offs. The Elves are inhumanly smug. Literally.
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You have only addressed that the elves will also be smug, leaving out them being 'sus' and 'unknown'. The elves 'unknown' is that we no nothing, Heidi's unknown is that she is known to be secretive and deceptive.
Also waystones is not Elves exclusively: there will atleast be men and dawi also.
 
Sovereign Hunt said:
People throw that saying around, that Heidi is fun in small doses but would get exhausting if she became a major character, but... Is that true? Or is it just projecting her character archetype.
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It's an estimated best guess because at the point where we learn for sure it will officially be too late to do anything about it. Estimated best guests are what we have to work with, that's just how decisions made on incomplete information WORK.
 
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