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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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[x] The Waystone Project
[x] Loremaster-at-Large of Karak Eight Peaks
[X] Markgraf of Eastern Stirland
[X] Research Sabbatical
[X] Ranaldian High Priest of Kislev
 
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[X] The Waystone Project
[X] Research Sabbatical
[X] Border Princess of the Howling River
[X] Loremaster-at-Large of Karak Eight Peaks
[X] Markgraf of Eastern Stirland
[X] Governor-General of Swamp Town
 
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[X] Spymaster of Wissenland
[X] Governor-General of Swamp Town
[X] Ranaldian High Priest of Kislev
[X] Nagarythe
 
[x] Markgraf of Eastern Stirland
[x] Bodyguard and Tutor to Prince Mandred
[x] Border Princess of the Howling River
[x] The Waystone Project



Approval voting the top picks until Loremaster goes away.

'More of the same?' Hell no.

I wanted to leave the mountains before it was cool.
 
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Nurgle said:
[X] Bodyguard and Tutor to Prince Mandred
[X] Markgraf of Eastern Stirland
[X] Spymaster of Wissenland


Approval voting to not get waystones. That will be a long project with a timescale in decades or longer. That is something Mathilde should consider when she "retires".
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And speeding 10 to 15 years is somehow a short span of time? Keep in mind we have been in K8P for seven total years and we have been in mortal peril countless times in that period. Our luck may well run out in the next decade which moves the Waystones (or anything else you have earmarked for later) to 'never'.
 
Zero Gravitas said:
Sure he owes a lot of favours. He's also the one utterly unassailable Dawi king in terms of political and social credit. Belegar did stuff his way and he won.
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I don't see the harm in making him even stronger. If his influence surpasses that of the High King there is no danger of civil war, but we get access to a lot more of the dwarf resources and those are formidable for the Waystone project or many other things.
 
Of these four my ranked favorites are (I know this does not count for the vote)
1. Bodyguard
2. Loremaster
3. Waystones
4. Markgraf

[x] Loremaster-at-Large of Karak Eight Peaks
[x] Bodyguard and Tutor to Prince Mandred
[x] The Waystone Project
[x] Markgraf of Eastern Stirland
 
xpentakill said:
Also does anyone know how long voting usually takes place for such big decisions?
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Always a minimum of 24 hours for any vote, beyond that it depends on when Boney is in the right mindset to write again and how lopsided it's getting - I expect at least a few days for this as it's going to be controversial and looks reasonably even on 3-4 options.
 
ALanos said:
I always feel that the Waystone Project is way too overhyped because we would need to organize and find patrons for this project and we won't be able to rely on any outside income except our own before we can get an entire organization behind us and get someone else to pay for because while there's a vow of poverty it doesn't mean to let a Grey Wizard be destitute. So the ability to find political patrons instead of just Belegar is important and it would also be something to help the Colleges on the side. Besides Mathilde is just in her thirties so doing a magnum opus before getting all her eggs in order seems too unstable. A wizard can live for a long time so if she can be able to have a stable flow of funds instead of one patron then it is for the better. Besides we might be forced to do mercenary work if we can't be able to fully fun this endeavor.
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I do think you're underestimating Mathilde's monetary power here. Belegar, as you mentioned, has a good chunk of disposeable cash and is willing to use it, but he isn't the only one we can call on.

Thorgrim is the High King of Karaz-Ankor, and supporting an official Dawi in figuring out how to make the Elgi's shoddy work better is to his benefit. Thorek is well connected with swarms of apprentices, and we can absolutely hire some runepriests through him at the cost of some AV, even if the prestige alone isn't enough. Roswita might now have resources to spare, but Mathilde is part of the EIC and on great terms of the two other owners. She also has the ear of the Empress-Consort, which aside from the obviously power that position holds is also a political market that's entirely untapped by us. The Eonir have gotten as close to promising that they'll help as it's possible for an elf to get.

And all of that is entirely discounting the Colleges and any new contacts that our current ones can give us.

Yes, we might end up being forced to do mercenary work, but that's not really that different from Mathilde's previously martial adventures except that she's paid up front.
 
[X] Loremaster-at-Large of Karak Eight Peaks
[X] Markgraf of Eastern Stirland
[X] Spymaster of Wissenland
[X] Bodyguard and Tutor to Prince Mandred
[X] Ranaldian High Priest of Kislev
[X] Border Princess of the Howling River

Not really sure what I'll drop, if any, if voting gets tactical—I'd be happy with any of these options.

Edit: I slightly favour Markgraf over Loremaster, and since their neck and neck as of this edit...

Edit edit: Nah, I put loremaster back, it's kinda cool.
 
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Actually, one of the benefits of becoming the Bodyguard and Tutor to the Prince is going to Nordland and conduct diplomacy to the Eonir and not just be doing it unexpectedly like in the Waystone Project or not at all in the Loremaster-at-large. So she may get better contacts with them if we go to the Imperial Troubleshooter route.
 
ALanos said:
Actually, one of the benefits of becoming the Bodyguard and Tutor to the Prince is going to Nordland and conduct diplomacy to the Eonir and not just be doing it unexpectedly like in the Waystone Project or not at all in the Loremaster-at-large. So she may get better contacts with them if we go to the Imperial Troubleshooter route.
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I kind of doubt that. Being send by King Belegar to talk about waystones has a different tone than being sent by the local mayfly leader to talk about gods or land rights. Elves may not like dwarfs but they sure as hell respect them more than they do most humans.

fan_of_D_Andreev said:
Got a question about the vote tally mechanism: does it count the quotes of other posts with voting? :o
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No, it does not.
 
Nurgle said:
Approval voting to not get waystones. That will be a long project with a timescale in decades or longer. That is something Mathilde should consider when she "retires".
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The key part that Mathilde is vital for is getting the diplomatic connections going - once the collaboration is underway it's plausible we'd be able to step down in 5 or so years and leave whatever council has formed in charge (or treat is a 0.5-1AP organisation where we're smoothing things over while doing our new job).

No guarantees either way of course, the future is an undiscovered land, but I really don't think it's retirement material - if there's not much for her to do she'll be able to do something else as her primary job, and if there is a lot for her to do it'll be interesting stuff.
 
[X] Markgraf of Eastern Stirland
[X] Spymaster of Wissenland
[X] The Waystone Project
[X] Bodyguard and Tutor to Prince Mandred
 
I'm going to try to spell out why I think Bodyguard is a better choice than Loremaster-At-Large, given how similar they are in many respects:

• The Empire needs a troubleshooter more than the Dwarves do. To use a mining metaphor, the Empire still has many rich seams of problems for us to mine through, while the Karaz Ankor is a lot more tapped out. The Empire has a great deal of immediately active problems for us to work through, and trying to bring some unity back to said empire is an excellent cause.

• It means more Ranald. This one is pretty self-explanatory, but I expect the Heidi and Mathilde show to have quite a bit of Ranald shenanigans going on, and that's fantastic because I legitimately like Ranald as a character in this story.

• It means seeing more of the Colleges. Instead of being half a continent away, we'll be right in Altdorf a bunch of the time - and that means seeing a lot more of Algard and the rest of the Grey College than we have before, and gives us an easy in into more inter-College shenanigans as well, including the whole Horstmann subplot.

And, finally and most subjectively...

• It's a change of pace. Belegar's great, but I don't really uh, want to see "more of the same, but smaller in scale now" at this point in the story, when there's other compelling alternatives. We aren't going to be pulling more stuff on the scale of K8P or Vlag, the dwarves are too spent for big projects for decades to come, so this is going to be just "ordinary" shenanigans on the scale of the We for years, and I'm satisfied with the amount of dwarf shenanigans we've already done. Let's move on.
 
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