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- Location
- Tempe, AZ
Rocks fall Gotrek dies.
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
- Thread starter Boney
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- warhammer warhammer fantasy fantasy be gay do crimes (gay) female protagonist pansexual protagonist ck2 quest divided loyalties mountain vietnam ranald is real this is a dwarf quest (dwarfs) this is maybe an elf quest this is not a vampire quest this is not an empire quest try it and find out open voting
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- Location
- Actually pretty lost
Why not? Our personal contributions are undiminished. Or were you meaning to get Gotrek to make one personally?
I don't think the strategic calculus is changed enough to change our plans. In the worst case, we can forage on the way back - Deathwing not being at hand is less of a problem when we're halfway between Dum and Kislev, than it looks right now.
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I hate that I laughed.
Mathilde's success in Uzkulak meant that the Knights could focus on watching for the Iron Wolves, rather than hunting megabeasts. Anything they hunted would have ended up in the Urmskaladrak anyway.
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So I am not nearly as invested as everyone else seems to be in Gotrek but wow quite a few people are talking about necromancy here and that seems way out of character. If Mathilda didn't use necrmancy at her lowest moment after the Count died why would she do that here and now when it would do nothing but have terrible repercussions for her. Necromancy also doesn't even seem like it has any real positive upsides since no one would be onboard with raising the dead and I can hardly imagine how pissed off the dawi would be at it.
On the topic of whether to press forward or not... Well we are already pretty close to the end goal here i am not sure how bad other events could be but it seema like we would be giving up after traveling 80% of the way to the hold
So I am not nearly as invested as everyone else seems to be in Gotrek but wow quite a few people are talking about necromancy here and that seems way out of character. If Mathilda didn't use necrmancy at her lowest moment after the Count died why would she do that here and now when it would do nothing but have terrible repercussions for her. Necromancy also doesn't even seem like it has any real positive upsides since no one would be onboard with raising the dead and I can hardly imagine how pissed off the dawi would be at it.
On the topic of whether to press forward or not... Well we are already pretty close to the end goal here i am not sure how bad other events could be but it seema like we would be giving up after traveling 80% of the way to the hold
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
- Location
- Vermont
Omegahugger has been suggesting Necromancy as the solution for every problem ever since Abelhelm died.
I mean, if it comes to it, I would eat the chicken-cats first.
they eat more...
- Location
- Before the Ninth Gate
I really think we should turn back. We have suddenly become very brittle. All an enemy needs to do is damage our rides, and they are gone, along with our maximum food supply. We have no knowledge of what's in Karak Dum except probably bad stuff. It's no longer wise to risk going to Karag Dum, as the risks have shot up.
And it's not like this will have been a failed adventure, either. We saved Karak Vlag.
[x] Turn back
And it's not like this will have been a failed adventure, either. We saved Karak Vlag.
[x] Turn back
- Location
- USA
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pucflek
Verified simpleton
- Location
- Czech Republic
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There is a very small faction, led mostly by Omega_Hugger, that constantly memes about necromancy. As far as i saw, they are not really serious, and mostly meme it because they know it can't succeed.
- Location
- Ireland
Well if there's one thing we know about Gotrek the Slayer, its that he has an incredible ability to survive anything (much to his despair). Like, he's still knocking about after the literal apocalypse. Gotrrk the Engineer isn't an incredible warrior with a divine axe yet, but I'm going to hold out hope til we've seen the body.
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Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
- Location
- Vermont
Some are definitely serious. Ninjafish, for example, has been extolling the virtues of vampirism and necromancy in multiple quests for multiple years.
- Location
- Toronto, Ontario(occasionally)
We could take a different route back if we wanted.
- Location
- Earth
Well, sometimes the dice just don't go our way. A bit disappointed in Ranald, but what can you do.
Whether by trade or raid, we should be good for food whilst travelling the steppes of the Dolgan to Dum. Thus, barring further catastrophe (always a possibility, but not one we can avoid except by not going on the expedition at all) we should be ok for food getting to Dum and getting back to the descent. We dont have enough food for the skull land crossing either way, so we will need to try and get extra supplies mid wya through that journey. Two sources are the chaos dwarf port again, which as others have mentioned is more likely to have food if we give more time for them to restock, or possibly a supply caravan meeting us half way if we can get a message out to Kislev with Matilhde. Our return journey is going to be hard are rely on luck, but that's true either way, and the odds are better if we are doing it later on.
All this leads to carrying on being the better option, imo. Are there risks? Of course, but none that we weren't already going to have to deal with as part of the expedition.
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Whether by trade or raid, we should be good for food whilst travelling the steppes of the Dolgan to Dum. Thus, barring further catastrophe (always a possibility, but not one we can avoid except by not going on the expedition at all) we should be ok for food getting to Dum and getting back to the descent. We dont have enough food for the skull land crossing either way, so we will need to try and get extra supplies mid wya through that journey. Two sources are the chaos dwarf port again, which as others have mentioned is more likely to have food if we give more time for them to restock, or possibly a supply caravan meeting us half way if we can get a message out to Kislev with Matilhde. Our return journey is going to be hard are rely on luck, but that's true either way, and the odds are better if we are doing it later on.
All this leads to carrying on being the better option, imo. Are there risks? Of course, but none that we weren't already going to have to deal with as part of the expedition.
[X] Press on
Fayhem
Definitely not an escaped SCP
- Location
- At large
- Pronouns
- He/Him
With this in mind, I'm inclined to carry on. If everybody involved knew there was a major chance of death when signing up, I don't think an increase in risk is a good enough reason to turn back. Even with a loss as painful as this is (on multiple levels), we're able to carry on and still theoretically have a good chance of success barring further major catastrophe. So I think that's what we need to do.
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the top of the Orre Kingdoms get hit ( and the tribes that live there) if we keep following the high road.
I'm just pointing out that if food storage is a problem, continuing on the path to Cathy in the huntable area might be an idea. at least until we get to a campsite. (if traders still take this route then there must be a tribe that trades instead of eating them (most of the time) on the road.
now, I'm not saying this is a good idea, just that it is an option if the desert is too long without some pack animals to take some of the way.
Oh okay i will be honest I pretty much binge read through the threadmarks and only caught up around the start of the expedition at Kislev so I definetly did not read all the comment between threadmarks.
- Location
- Aotearoa
80% of the trip there, 40% of the whole journey.
I'd quite like to make it back home again, that's my end goal.
If the Dolgan are both willing and able to come through for us, both ways, and we spend a food-neutral time at Dum, we could have the same broad food supply situation at this point on the way back- two weeks, with three to travel.
We'd also have more wear on the wagons, no chief engineer, and seven attempts to get past the rockslide rather than three. The risks have gone up significantly.
My strong inclination is to-
[x] Turn back
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Ganurath
Literal Enthusiast
- Location
- A Valid Location
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- He/Him
Omega is completely serious, but uses a humorous presentation to make the arguments for necromancy endearing to what would otherwise be a hostile audience.
The northernmost Ogre Kingdoms are in the mountains bordering the Hobgoblin Khanates, which would be several weeks to the east.
- Location
- on the way to the fire.
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- He
I must say that it was rather overshadowed by the fact that we learn that a cult of warriors riding giant wolves might end up in charge of a place called Mad Dog Pass.
- Location
- Canada
- Pronouns
- He/Him
I mean, fair? I'm not sure how else I could see this working though, from a narrative perspective. Part of it might be I have no idea who Gotrek was outside this quest, so to me he's just 'a dwarf, engineer variety'. I'm just not feeling any particular emotional loss at the update, and despite losing the one steam wagon this vote decision doesn't feel worrying.
Sorry I don't have more helpful feedback, I just, yeah. Something's not clicking.
