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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Xepheria said:
You realise you'd be relying on a device that uses the rune of an Ancestor God to practice an art that would squarely put Mathilde in the 'Enemy of the Dawi' category. Prooooobably wouldn't fly, at a guess.
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Yea, I've heard it before, it's nonsense. Dwarven runic items don't work that way. They don't have IFF to check if their user is a friend or foe.

You also realise that I'm not actually advocating we utilise necromancy right?
 
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Yea, I've heard it before, it's nonsense. Dwarven runic items don't work that way. They don't have IFF to check if their user is a friend or foe.

You also realise that I'm not actually advocating we utilise necromancy right?
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Did you miss the whole tower firing sequence, in which we had the direct attention of Gazul, and had to personally verify if every target in the area of effect was, in fact, an 'Enemy of the Dawi'?

Ancestor Gods are capable of direct intervention, just as human gods are, especially through items that bear their runes.
 
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I bet BoneyM will roll for what the NUT does; probably it makes an instant forest with middling rolls, and maybe a dryad with high rolls? :V

Somehow befriending dryads in WHF Quests seems like a trope somewhat.
 
Xepheria said:
You realise you'd be relying on a device that uses the rune of an Ancestor God to practice an art that would squarely put Mathilde in the 'Enemy of the Dawi' category. Prooooobably wouldn't fly, at a guess.

This isn't even mentioning the fact that wielding Shyish, which is required for necromancy, would create dhar, as it reacted with Mathilde's partially-Ulgu soul. So yes, burning dhar in brainmeats.

The Second Secret isn't a necromantic technique, and could be pulled off using Ulgu manipulation of Dhar, but I refer once more to the whole 'abominable act' that would have us staring down the barrel of an Inquisition.
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My point was not let's do necromancy because its safe, but, lets not do necromancy, even though it's not inherently harmful to Mathilde, because it would ruin her self image.
But also, runes don't stop working because they are misused. Kragg have us the rune items but stayed within hammering reach in case we misused them.
Until he started trusting us.
 
Xepheria said:
You realise you'd be relying on a device that uses the rune of an Ancestor God to practice an art that would squarely put Mathilde in the 'Enemy of the Dawi' category. Prooooobably wouldn't fly, at a guess.
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Possibly, but runes often aren't selective. Canon is full of examples of stolen Dawi weapons being used for purposes the Ancestors certainly wouldn't approve of, but their runes still perform their intended function.


Xepheria said:
This isn't even mentioning the fact that wielding Shyish, which is required for necromancy, would create dhar, as it reacted with Mathilde's partially-Ulgu soul. So yes, burning dhar in brainmeats.
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The belt might work to burn it off? Honestly I'm not sure, and I don't think we ever tested what happens when Dhar manifests internally, for obvious reasons.
 
...You know what I want? I want a dinosaur. No real reason, I was just thinking about our new provable Lizardmen toy and knowledge from those books, and realized that Mathilde on a dinosaur would be really freaking cool. Especially if it's an undead one. We can call it Sue and everything!
 
Ericwinter said:
...You know what I want? I want a dinosaur. No real reason, I was just thinking about our new provable Lizardmen toy and knowledge from those books, and realized that Mathilde on a dinosaur would be really freaking cool. Especially if it's an undead one. We can call it Sue and everything!
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we can not do a Dresden

where would we even get the fire
 
Ericwinter said:
...You know what I want? I want a dinosaur. No real reason, I was just thinking about our new provable Lizardmen toy and knowledge from those books, and realized that Mathilde on a dinosaur would be really freaking cool. Especially if it's an undead one. We can call it Sue and everything!
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So, if magesight plays a big role in attraction for Mathilde, as evidenced by Cython...
Should Pan start worrying if we meet a Slann?
 
Xepheria said:
Did you miss the whole tower firing sequence, in which we had the direct attention of Gazul, and had to personally verify if every target in the area of effect was, in fact, an 'Enemy of the Dawi'?

Ancestor Gods are capable of direct intervention, just as human gods are, especially through items that bear their runes.
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No I didn't miss that, you know what the difference is? That tower was a fusion of wind magic and runic artifice and the spell the tower was built around explicitly included IFF as part of the base spell. Throw in weird shenanigans because a wizard used enough magic to weaken reality its self and yes something strange happened. Runic items in general do not have IFF, If they did then there'd be a lot less concern about runes falling into the wrong hands or the unworthy if they'd stop working if you did something against the creed of the ancestor gods.

So no, that weird exception which is in large part because of Mathilde doesn't prove your conjecture.
 
Xepheria said:
Did you miss the whole tower firing sequence, in which we had the direct attention of Gazul, and had to personally verify if every target in the area of effect was, in fact, an 'Enemy of the Dawi'?

Ancestor Gods are capable of direct intervention, just as human gods are, especially through items that bear their runes.
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Eye of Gazul is not a runic item, it's hybrid system directed by wizard at the helm by design. Of course Mathilde has to do all these things, it's part of casting a spell.
And from attention of Gazul there's in no way follows that Ancestor Gods are capable of intervention via runes, via any runes, and in all conditions.
Runes are reliable magic machines, not some divine artifact dependent upon their power (like our Coin or whatever).
 
Xepheria said:
Did you miss the whole tower firing sequence, in which we had the direct attention of Gazul, and had to personally verify if every target in the area of effect was, in fact, an 'Enemy of the Dawi'?

Ancestor Gods are capable of direct intervention, just as human gods are, especially through items that bear their runes.
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...Now, I am on team "never Dhar", but I have to say, us having to verify who to kill proves pretty much the oppossite of your point, that human control > divine interference even with a god's attention.
 
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