DocMatoi
Theoretical Lover of Girls
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- They/Them
But.... Big Bro Anton... Wilhelmina... resurrected Abelhelm... they'll all forget what we look like too
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
- Thread starter Boney
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- California
I expect them to think they can sneak a pocketful of gold believing nobody will notice and trying to stash it away for when they, in their minds inevitably, return triumphantly home. I also expect these people to fail and massively tick off the Dawi.
- Location
- Chile
[X] The King's Gates.
It really does seem that opening up the treasury at this stages of the expedition would be ill advised.
Really hope Mathilde gets a nice weapon out of the armory, though I suppose we should take the greataxe training option next turn if we want to make sure of it.
It really does seem that opening up the treasury at this stages of the expedition would be ill advised.
Really hope Mathilde gets a nice weapon out of the armory, though I suppose we should take the greataxe training option next turn if we want to make sure of it.
Night_stalker
Slava Ukraini!
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Chickens can fly somewhat decently (Look, they nest in trees in the wild at night, they can fly). So..... If you were implying something else, well, it's a bit off.
Dwarf Gyros are basically either little single engines like these:
Or these:
Neither of which are conducive for cargo transport.
Nix's Warden
Welcome to Hades
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- United States
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- Aotearoa
And if there is one thing poor Anton has always been good at, it's putting names to faces.
There are certainly at least double-seaters in quest, as we had the opportunity for a joyride (and I'm presuming Kragg was a passenger.) Still, I go back to wondering about the cargo capacity of any mothballed airships.
Guile
Having a really great time right now
Your mouth says no, but-
Nix's Warden
Welcome to Hades
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- United States
The rest of me ALSO Says No.
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- Russia
Kragg uses a gyrobomber (which is pretty big) because he hauls big fucking Anvil of Doom with him which is his warmachine/mount hybrid.
Units stay in rectangular formations, but you can be (partially) encircled if you are attacked by one unit from the front and another from the flank. Forcing moral check (if we are talking about Mathilde) comes from 4 things:
1) Fear. Fear requires enemies to test LD to engage us in combat effectively. If they fail, their WS is reduced to 1 this round.
2) Terror. Terror is like Fear but better. You are such a dangerous dude that you force enemies to check LD when you are charging them. If they fail, they run. If they are not fast enough and are overtaken, they are wiped out. No ifs, no buts, charging Mathilde on shadowsteed can kill enemies by the dozen.
3) Panic - if one unit is fleeing, all his nearby allies must check LD or flee.
4) Combat result. After each round of melee combat you count "who did better" and losing side have to test LD. Major contributors to CR are:
a) Wounds. Each wound you dealt increases your CR score by 1.
b) Charge. If you charged, you get +1 CR for awesomeness. If you charged from high ground, you get extra +1, because it was cinematic.
c) Extra ranks. Each rank after the first gives you +1, up to +3. You lose that bonus if you are attacked in flank or rear. That is why flank attacks are awesome - they break tarpits (big units with a lot of staying power, but not a lot of killyness).
d) Standard. If you have it, you get a bonus. If your general with his army standard is nearby, you get another bonus.
e) Flank/Rear attack. Not only you deny enemy his ER bonus, you also get +1/+2 bonus of your own.
f) Overkill in challenge. If you killed enemy champion harder than you had to, you get extra bonus for awesomeness.
Losing side makes LD test and applies the difference between CRs as a penalty, unless they have more ranks than the enemy (if they do, they still roll LD, but use unmodified value). Mathilde has a special rule "stubborn" and thus always rolls such tests using unmodified LD.
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- Aotearoa
You were so right about this, and I continue to love it about her. Mathilde (when the thread, myself included, isn't worry-worting) doesn't seem to even contemplate giving in to fear. @BoneyM I think you do a great job of presenting the perspective of a Brave soul- we don't often see the option to 'safely hang out in the War Council tent' or similar. Nope, we volunteer to ride solo into dangerous lands and explore tunnels that haven't seen a civilised soul in centuries, and a human... perhaps ever. It takes real guts to be willing to stand, alone, and face a horde of terrible foes. Twice. Even if they do turn out to be cowardly Skaven.
Brave Mathilde best Mathilde.
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- Brazil
I think the Citadel is an all around great option, but by the time I finished reading the update, the bandwagon was well and truly in motion.
I was more interested in the bit where, if we go first and kill everyone in base contact, the unit apparently can't attack us (in melee)?
Night_stalker
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OK, here's the issues with aerial resupply, in order:
1. We need a lot of supplies coming in, daily. And I mean a LOT. At the moment, using the Threadmark about the expedition? Just from raw numbers, not counting big names and the like? 109,755 people are here. And a lot of those guys are mounted, on carnivores (Demigrphys and Wolves), meaning they need meat on a daily basis, less they view us as it.
2. We also need all those supplies being brought in by air. I don't think we're in range of a Hold by air that can supply that much raw food.
3. We also might not have enough transportation gyros to carry that much food and keep it going.
DocMatoi
Theoretical Lover of Girls
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We are an example to set for the future of the Empire
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- Russia
It does work that way and we will likely have only 3 models in base contact, but we are quite unlikely to act first with that Initiative penalty from our greatsword unless we specifically train our reaction speed and reflexes to get ASF rule or at least better Initiative. It is more likely if we use revolver - S4 A3 I4 is better for clearing lightly-armored low-toughness chaff than S6 A2 I2. Greatsword becomes superior option against T4 (proper Orks) or better and/or 5+ armor save (heavy armor) or better.
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- Brazil
We'd have to be real lucky to hit and wound three enemies with three attacks tho. In that sense, our new Dread Aspect is even more amazing, as it probably averages out to enough to deal three wounds against T3.
This makes it all the more crucial to up our martial, and consequently our Skill and Attacks. This ability to easily survive against a block of infantry will likely pay back in spades against skaven and goblins.
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I think maybe only the base-contact criteria that count?
Those guys could still attack you.
Nope. Corner to corner counts as well.
As far as I can tell we get arcane marks related to spells we've been spamming first. The flame one happened with Burning Shadows, the spoopy shadow happened with Dread Aspect.
But based on what @BoneyM said, we can work around them given some time.
They're meant to make you distinctly tied to your Wind of magic, not cripple you as a character, especially not cripple you at the thing associated with your particular Wind.
Adventurers, they do this sort of thing semiregularly.
Keeping in mind its vastly easier for small bands of 5-20 people to make it through without ever seeing any action than an army of 20 thousand dudes with supply train to match.
Yeah, though for bulk cargo like food I believe the campaign plan for it is to grow most of it on site, and ship in supplementals like spices, salt, cheese and meat on the aerial chain.Dwarf Gyros are basically either little single engines like these:
Or these:
Neither of which are conducive for cargo transport.
What we mostly need to ship in are refined materials we can't produce on site:
-Food - Infeasible. Airlift can carry quality of life quantities of flavorings that keep morale up. A supply convoy COULD carry significant amounts but would be best used to supplement rather than survive on.
-Water - Sourced locally. Probably have wells still extant
-Gunpowder - Feasible. We don't actually HAVE anything that uses industrial amounts of dakka. A couple of barrels meets the consumption.
-Metal - We'd be doing a lot of recycling of battlefield scrap, but we're going to want to ship in steel and bronze ingots if we can't access local stores
-Fuel - We'd be mainly using local timbers for cook fires, but refined charcoal for
-Wood - We'd mainly be using local timbers to fletch arrows and maintain the camp furniture. Will need the land route to bring the kind of seasoned timbers you want to build siege engines with though.
So yeah, it's not really significant on an army scale
The big deal of aerial route being opened are:
-Key artifacts and Heroes can be flown out in the event that everything goes to hell. This is especially valuable for whatever relics we might find in the temple or armory of greater historical value than practical.
-The option of pulling out also means greater willingness to commit elite resources to the task with the expectation that they can be pulled out later. If, you know, any dwarfs want to.
-We can airlift in more wizards and/or spell literature for the siege phase for us and the journeymanlings. Mostly the journeymanlings, we would find it hard to pay for the books from here, their masters pay for it.
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Et Sic Incipit
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- Planet Earth, North America
[X] The Citadel
I'd aim for the Citadel for its sheer defensive value and close proximity to East Gate, then Kings Gate for those juicy Gyrocopter reinforcements and more importantly aerial dominance and mobility. But, Citadel first, bc we need a highly-fortified central location. It will reduce the distance to Kings Gate by a decent amount from what the map looks like, though I might be mistaken on that.
I'd aim for the Citadel for its sheer defensive value and close proximity to East Gate, then Kings Gate for those juicy Gyrocopter reinforcements and more importantly aerial dominance and mobility. But, Citadel first, bc we need a highly-fortified central location. It will reduce the distance to Kings Gate by a decent amount from what the map looks like, though I might be mistaken on that.
Guile
Having a really great time right now
I'm not saying they won't think they can swipe some gold and then flee into the greenskin-infested badlands with a month of travel and no food except what they might be able to scrounge ahead of them. I'm just saying... that problem would resolve itself pretty quickly in the belly of a giant spider or whatever.
That's entirely aside from the fact that the dwarves are just not going to let some manlings into the treasury of their honored ancestors, and if the adventurers think they can hold out for better pay or something... dwarves take a very dim view of contract renegotiation, I would assume.
These would just be the military gyrocopters though. Cargo carrying gryos and airships would probably have much better capacity. Probably not enough to feed our army but I'd expect much better than what you get with gyrocopters you intend to take into battle.Chickens can fly somewhat decently (Look, they nest in trees in the wild at night, they can fly). So..... If you were implying something else, well, it's a bit off.
Dwarf Gyros are basically either little single engines like these:
Or these:
Neither of which are conducive for cargo transport.
Only if you have 2 ranks of your own guys do you disrupt the enemy numbers.