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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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No one must know. Ever. Only under the darkest of nights and most terrible of dangers will we have the decision to unveil it- and choose some lesser secret like the reports we give to our hidden masters, or the mysterious rites we give to the great god Ranald, or something innocuous like that.
 
I'm fine with telling him as long as we make it clear that we were panicking, and completely forgot that there was another spell we could have used, and even then, we absolutely did NOT mean to hit them, let alone knock out Berthold.

[x] Close the gates. Nobody in, nobody out. Not until we get to the bottom of this.
-[x] with the pretext that 'this' is 'the attack on Berthold', not anything else.
-[x] Get all key personnel (Wilhemina, Kasmir) alerted so they can't be caught alone and killed once the infiltrators catch on.
-[x] Berthold was me. I may have panicked and tried to attract Marcus' attention with a Magic Dart. He was fighting and I hit Berthold too hard instead, it was an accident.
 
[X] Close the gates. Nobody in, nobody out. Not until we get to the bottom of this.
-[X] Get all key personnel (Wilhemina, Kasmir) alerted so they can't be caught alone and killed once the infiltrators catch on.
-[X] Berthold was me. I may have panicked and tried to attract Marcus' attention with a Magic Dart. I am not accustomed to running around in my underwear alright.
-[X] Get Van Hal to take a look at the infiltrators.
 
[X] Close the gates. Nobody in, nobody out. Not until we get to the bottom of this.
-[X] Get all key personnel (Wilhemina, Kasmir) alerted so they can't be caught alone and killed once the infiltrators catch on.
-[X] Berthold was me. I may have panicked and tried to attract Marcus' attention with a Magic Dart. I am not accustomed to running around in my underwear alright.
-[X] Get Van Hal to take a look at the infiltrators.

Ranald must be laughing himself sick.
 
Really, i believe closing the gates escalates this thing too far too fast. NOBODY knows that the jig is up yet. The accident might force action ou of the spies but it would probably be to attack rather than flee
 
[X] Our main priority is defending the leadership of Stirland. As above, but also find a way to get a message to Wilhelmina, telling her to seek safety.
-[X] Berthold was me. I may have panicked and tried to attract Marcus' attention with a Magic Dart. I am not accustomed to running around in my underwear alright.
 
[X] Don't tell, it's a secret to everyone.

Yeah.... we seriously fucked up by using magic on someone ... something people outside of altdorf are already extremely wary of.
 
I'd say a goodcompromise is to tell him in private. Just pull him away for a second to explain. So long as Van Hall knows, no one else really matters.
 
Mr.rodent said:
[X] Don't tell, it's a secret to everyone.

Yeah.... we seriously fucked up by using magic on someone ... something people outside of altdorf are already extremely wary of.
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On the one hand, yes. On the other hand, this is the kind of mistake that you expect from a recent recruit with a crossbow, poor aim, and worse judgement instead of the kind you expect from someone with the power to tear reality a new one.
 
[X] Our main priority is defending the leadership of Stirland. As above, but also find a way to get a message to Wilhelmina, telling her to seek safety.
-[X] Berthold was me. I may have panicked and tried to attract Marcus' attention with a Magic Dart. I am not accustomed to running around in my underwear alright.

We ARE in private.
Point taken on gates though
 
veekie said:
[X] Our main priority is defending the leadership of Stirland. As above, but also find a way to get a message to Wilhelmina, telling her to seek safety.
-[X] Berthold was me. I may have panicked and tried to attract Marcus' attention with a Magic Dart. I am not accustomed to running around in my underwear alright.

We ARE in private.
Point taken on gates though
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Maybe it's enough to make note of anyone who tries to leave, and especially anyone who is insistent.
 
Do we want to help Kasmir keep his job or life once this situation passes? Having advisors "retire" semi-regularly might cause concern to everyone else, but we are beside vampire land.
 
I very much doubt Van Hal would shoot a Priest of Sigmar especially one appointed by the Grand Theologist himself unless he wants to be burned to the stake
 
Seventeen said:
Why on earth are you suggesting we kill the Faith adviser for not doing the Intrigue adviser's job?
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He was vetting the castle staff before us, and this happened. So it's either his bad at the job or something else. Also i was asking if we want or need put in a good word so that unfriendly guy remains as is. Instead of trying to off him one way or another.
 
VoidZero said:
He was vetting the castle staff before us, and this happened. So it's either his bad at the job or something else. Also i was asking if we want or need put in a good word so that unfriendly guy remains as is. Instead of trying to off him one way or another.
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He wasn't vetting them, he was just finding out their religions. It's not his job to vet them.
 
For reference:

"Kasmir, tend to your flock. Find out which God every soldier and servant within these walls answers to. If the goat has predilections towards proscribed cults I want to know about it. And write to Altdorf - the military of Stirland is in need of better spiritual guidance."

[six months later]

"Brother Kasmir, how is the spiritual health of the castle?"

"Among the servants, Sigmar is not as venerated as I would prefer, but Morr and Shallya fill the void. More concerning is the state of the souls of the Greatswords - they have not had a chaplain assigned to them in some time, and though I could find no worship of proscribed cults, there is no central uniting faith among them. The closest is Ulricans, but they only make up a third - the rest are Sigmarites, Myrmidians, Morrites and Verenans." He shakes his head sadly. "The rift between the Sigmarites and the previous rulers of Stirland left the Army without spiritual guidance. I can only hope that I continue to find no evidence of heresy among them."
 
King Arthur said:
I'm shipping us with Van Hal. Why?

Because, well, I like their interactions and it amuses me, it is clear that Ranald ships it and as a loyal worshipper of his we should do as he wills, I like having more power, and, uh, it's almost like you guys forgot that we are doing a bunch of shady stuff that he might get pissed about and we might want him to like us as much as someone typically likes there wife.

Like, for instance, if we marry him, I'm pretty sure we never have to embezzle funds again. We can just be like "hey honey, I need some cash money for reasons" and he'll give us the money. Also, if he ever finds out about us spying on him, he's vaguely more likely to not kill us or throw us out if he loves us.

Remember, our job here isn't just to protect Stirland, it's also to do a bunch of other stuff that Van Hal probably wouldn't approve of it he knew and him being in love with us would very much help keep us safe.
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All the shippers know he's probably twice our age? He's been hunting undead for twenty years, and Witch Hunter is an elite profession. I mean, I believe a lot of historical (political) marriages were age-disparate, but just for everyone's mental picture to be on the same page.

Seventeen said:
He wasn't vetting them, he was just finding out their religions. It's not his job to vet them.
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Yep. So unless he's missed cultists, not really (that much of) a screwup.
 
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VoidZero said:
He was vetting the castle staff before us, and this happened. So it's either his bad at the job or something else. Also i was asking if we want or need put in a good word so that unfriendly guy remains as is. Instead of trying to off him one way or another.
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You are still suggesting Van Hal would kill a priest of Sigmar which is insane
 
The problem is that, while the guy was checking to see if any of the staff were worshiping things that shouldn't be, he still interviewed an unknown number of inhuman infiltrators and let them pass.

They may not have been vampires but the inhuman deceiving him like that does not showcase a sound sense of judgement.

Killing him? I don't see it. But demanding a new one from Aldorf? That I could see.
 
Seventeen said:
He wasn't vetting them, he was just finding out their religions. It's not his job to vet them.
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I assumed finding out religion is same as vetting, because how would a person know someone's faith without conversation or observation?

Atam the Ork said:
You are still suggesting Van Hal would kill a priest of Sigmar which is insane
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Doesn't Witch Hunter off people fairly regularly? I apologise if they aren't.
 
BoneyM said:
He's fifteen years older than Mathilde, to be exact.
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Thanks. Younger than I thought. So, he was a Witch Hunter for roughly the 15 years Wilhelmina was his quartermaster(?), random youthful adventuring/soldiering for five prior years, which featured a lot of undead.

Nix's Warden said:
... he still interviewed an unknown number of inhuman infiltrators and let them pass.
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So did we. We had already interviewed the washerwoman. So, if we're executing for 'incompetence'...

Also, I don't hold it was his job. Only if they turn out to be proscribed cultists.

VoidZero said:
Doesn't Witch Hunter off people fairly regularly? I apologise if they aren't.
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Those they know to be Heretics, chaos cultists, vampires: sure. Priests, especially Priests of Sigmar (effectively the state religion) not also one of the above: No.
 
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Nix's Warden said:
The problem is that, while the guy was checking to see if any of the staff were worshiping things that shouldn't be, he still interviewed an unknown number of inhuman infiltrators and let them pass.

They may not have been vampires but the inhuman deceiving him like that does not showcase a sound sense of judgement.

Killing him? I don't see it. But demanding a new one from Aldorf? That I could see.
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Dude, WE failed too. The last one got unlucky and claimed a reference we knew personally
 
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