Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

Alliterate · Jul 14, 2020

Klaus said:
I suspect being a ruler also involves doing a lot of things that anger Shallaya, and it's not like she can't just refuse to help, regardless of what the priestesses want.

This, we know about Gods for sure.

Deathbybunnies said:
Makes sense, really. This is a major upgrade to arguably the most fundamental function of the Colleges - to train wizards and try to stop them from exploding.

I mean, I'd personally pro-rate it, for doing the same thing eight times, as opposed to one super-impressive deed, or eight different cool ones. Repetition, and all.

Anyway, just spitballing proposals, we have the...
Mighty Tower
Astounding Tower
Thrilling Tower
Heroic Tower
Incredible Tower
Lively Tower
Daring Tower
Exceptional Tower

Valkur · Jul 14, 2020

BoneyM said:
About that...

So basically she's telling Humanity Git gud. Feels like a Dark Souls player is here.

zxzx24 · Jul 14, 2020

chocolote12 said:
So, if the Room vote goes through, we'll be adding the favor expenditure to our Reputation at a 1:1.

110 + (10 + (3 x 10)) = 110 + 40 = 150 Reputation.

That's nearly half again what we've got right now. I mean, not mathematically exactly half again, but a whole ton. The size of the Reclamation, but for humans, which is pretty nice.

@BoneyM
Is this enough favor to get the gold college to make that giant robot?

Sir Bidoof · Jul 14, 2020

Seriously, how did that flying class comic strip become such a meme here, anyway? I know the GM has used it a lot, but where did it even come to the thread?

Alliterate · Jul 14, 2020

ReImagined said:
It may not have been the maximally efficient action for developing a spy network or changing a mechanical result, no. But I would never consider worldbuilding or character development a mistake.

Or sucking up to current Grey Lord Magisters who might, possibly, at some point be asked to weigh in on your own candidacy...

Sir Bidoof said:
I know the GM has used it a lot, but where did it even come to the thread?

Kind of asked and answered your own question. As I recall, Boney used it first? (Or at least enthusiastically and early)

Pikeline · Jul 14, 2020

[X]Plan Backyard
[X] Plan Red Minus KD

Boney · Jul 14, 2020

zxzx24 said:
@BoneyM
Is this enough favor to get the gold college to make that giant robot?

...giant robot?

Sir Bidoof said:
Seriously, how did that flying class comic strip become such a meme here, anyway? I know the GM has used it a lot, but where did it even come to the thread?

The original one was Fozzrik, which brought the comic to mind for me because both were about flying via being the best. And then it kept coming up because people seriously love to try to find a way to milk every advantage. No, wolves can't teach you martial arts.

HavocKeeper · Jul 14, 2020

Vebyast said:
Whichever college gets Wizard would be instantly besieged.

...Make it so the plaques can be detached "for cleaning" and generally interchangeable. Instant new tradition: Steal the Wizard.

Mathilde is a Grey. It would begin with the Greys and stay with the Greys.

Andres · Jul 14, 2020

BoneyM said:
...giant robot?

zxzx24 said:
How much gold college favor would we need to make the dwarven Colossus of Rhodes?

BoneyM said:
None. We did it without any Gold Wizards, I think Dwarves could manage it.

zxzx24 said:
I mean one that's animated.

BoneyM said:
Oh, wow.

Uh... all of it? Yeah, probably all of it.

chocolote12 · Jul 14, 2020

zxzx24 said:
@BoneyM
Is this enough favor to get the gold college to make that giant robot?

It is explicitly not favor, just reputation. They think we're cooler, but there aren't any obligations involved in it.

HavocKeeper · Jul 14, 2020

BoneyM said:
The original one was Fozzrik, which brought the comic to mind for me because both were about flying via being the best. And then it kept coming up because people seriously love to try to find a way to milk every advantage. No, wolves can't teach you martial arts.

It's one of the better running jokes.

Vebyast · Jul 14, 2020

HavocKeeper said:
Mathilde is a Grey. It would begin with the Greys and stay with the Greys.

Shhhhhhh! That's the point, but it only works if nobody realizes it!

Parzival95 · Jul 14, 2020

BoneyM said:
...giant robot?

Way back when in Gaius Marius's original CK2 Warhammer quest, the main characters daughter was a gold wizard who built giant magiteck mechas following Pacific Rim naming conventions.

It was totally jumping the shark, but it was awesome. I'm here for it.

Boney · Jul 14, 2020

Kill two or three Everchosen and we'll talk about the robot.

Alliterate · Jul 14, 2020

Metallic Tower
Air~~head~~y Tower
Temperate Tower (Brights, moderating heat/flames, in case not obvious)
Hunters Tower
Incandescent Tower (Hysh)
Life Tower
Deaths' Watch (Tower)
Edge of Everything (Tower)

Purple and Grey get cooler names 'cos Mathilde likes them best.

zxzx24 · Jul 14, 2020

Andres110 said:
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This one my bad

BoneyM said:
Kill two or three Everchosen and we'll talk about the robot.

Somebody already did "become empress" so...

Andres · Jul 14, 2020

If you want the closest thing Warhammer has to giant robots, look to Nehekhara or the Vampire Coast.

Gap · Jul 14, 2020

[X] Plan Red

[X] [TOWER] Anti-Air: Azyr

[X] [LIBRARY] Enchantment: Imperial Antiquarian (100gc, 2CF), Divine Magic: Imperial Antiquarian (100gc, 2CF), Ranald: Bretonnian Extensive (100gc), Engineering: Imperial Esoteric, Bretonnian Extensive, Dwarven Extensive (350gc), Waystones and Henges: Dwarven Esoteric (50gc, 2DF)

[X] [DWARF] Rooms of Calamity for eight colleges (10DF + 10 gallons AV)

[X] [PURCHASE] Firkin of dwarven ink for Grey College Docent (5gc)

BoneyM said:
Kill two or three Everchosen and we'll talk about the robot.

So there is a possibility

ReImagined · Jul 14, 2020

Alliterate said:
Anyway, just spitballing proposals, we have the...
Mighty Tower
Astounding Tower
Thrilling Tower
Heroic Tower
Incredible Tower
Lively Tower
Daring Tower
Exceptional Tower

Mystifying Maze (Ulgu)
Artificial Alcove (Chamon)
Timeless Tomb (Shyish)
Horizon Hall (Azyr)
Inspirational Inglenook (Aqshy)
Luminescent Lens (Hysh)
Druidic Domain (Ghyran)
Earthen Enclosure (Ghur)

I will admit I had to consult a thesaurus to find inglenook.

NexusEye · Jul 14, 2020

ReImagined said:
Mystifying Maze (Ulgu)
Artificial Alcove (Chamon)
Timeless Tomb (Shyish)
Horizon Hall (Azyr)
Inspirational Inglenook (Aqshy)
Luminescent Lens (Hysh)
Druidic Domain (Ghyran)
Earthen Enclosure (Ghur)

I now know what we need to name the Rooms. This isn't a joke, I genuinely want to name the Rooms after this list.

Glau · Jul 14, 2020

chocolote12 said:
So, if the Room vote goes through, we'll be adding the favor expenditure to our Reputation at a 1:1.

110 + (10 + (3 x 10)) = 110 + 40 = 150 Reputation.

That's nearly half again what we've got right now. I mean, not mathematically exactly half again, but a whole ton. The size of the Reclamation, but for humans, which is pretty nice.

It's interesting that from the empires perspective, the diplomat warned the dwarves about Marianburg through a back channel, and now the dwarves are going way out of their way to publicly show off what they bring to the table as long term allies. Refreshing manling memories, if you will. Both an unexpected contribution to the colleges of magic, dwarf-craft making it easier for the empire to produce mages of a caliber useful on the battlefield, AND the grand Master of Zuftbar makes it known that he's looking to make some new steam tanks for the empire.

So Bismark sees this as dwarves laying down a carrot to go along with the naval stick.

The grey order probably sees it as Mathilde leveraging the dwarves for the benefit of the empire, a transparent play to prove loyalty and usefulness in a Lady Magister bid. After all, having a bunch of highly magical dwarf-built buildings named for you in the colleges? That's not something just a *Magister* would have, now is it?

chocolote12 · Jul 14, 2020

Glau said:
After all, having a bunch of highly magical dwarf-built buildings named for you in the colleges?

Naming them after ourselves was just a meme, I think.

Like, we might, but it's not in the votes.

Alliterate · Jul 14, 2020

Glau said:
the grand Master of Zuftbar makes it known that he's looking to make some new steam tanks for the empire.

I don't think this is in the leading plan.

Glau said:
highly magical dwarf-built buildings

Glau said:
magical dwarf

Excuse you?
That's a Grudgin'.
They're very non-magical, thankyou.

Ganurath · Jul 14, 2020

Tower of Surprise Magic (Gray)
Tower of Grave Magic (Purple)
Tower of Fire Magic (Red)
Tower of Spider Magic (Brown)
Tower of the Dragon (White)
Tower of Research Magic (Yellow)
Tower of Harvest Magic (Green)
Tower of Wolf Magic (Blue)

Andres · Jul 14, 2020

Found some annoying rules-related stuff. In the Empire book in WFB, the Sword of Justice - explicitly a dwarf-runed sword - has Killing Blow and rerolls failed wound rolls, with nothing else. There is no rune or combination of runes that do those two things and nothing else in the Dwarfs book. Furthermore, Realms of Sorcery says the Sword of Justice has a Rune of Grudges and a Rune of Fury, both of which are in the Dwarfs book but don't have effects that match up.

Like yeah I get how all these divergent fluff and mechanics stuff came up and none of this is important but still!

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