Voted best in category in the Users' Choice awards.
[x] Accept as leader of the Stirlander forces (commanding 5,000 crossbowmen and 5,000 huntsmen).
[x] The Stirlander forces
[x] Spend time with your wolf pup, trying to develop a famliar bond.
[x] Deliver last-minute messages for Belegar, trying to scrape together any remaining support to be had before leaving.
- [x] To Dwarfholds of the Grey and Black Mountains.

This vote should be good.

Wolf pup and message running are the most important; note that the tally splits the count for the latter for some reason so it's easy to miss half the votes for it. It's still way behind, though, and we need more support from the dwarfholds badly.

We have no runepriests at all, nor any human priests unless the knightly orders are hiding some, meaning that the wizards are the only counterspellers/dispellers we have. We also have very little artillery, while skaven are quite into heavy weapons (if unstable ones that often explode). We really, really do not want to be in the position of losing artillery duels with warp lightning cannons. Both of these problems are most easily solved by additional dwarven aid- and might not be possible to solve otherwise.

If people vote to be in charge of the wizards and want to talk to them instead of the Stirlanders that's fine, I guess; it would be a morale boost to see the men of Stirland either way (and, I think, a fun scene to get a good look at what they think of us showing up) but knowing one's subordinates is important. I implore those voting for it, however, to leave one of the wizard options aside in favor of making sure that the pup and running happen. We can get to know the journeymen while we move, but we can't call for extra support and we can't extend the timeline we have available for building our familiar bond to get Magic 7.
 
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[X] Accept as leader of the Stirlander forces (commanding 5,000 crossbowmen and 5,000 huntsmen).
[X] The Stirlander forces
[X] Spend time with your wolf pup, trying to develop a famliar bond.
[X] Deliver last-minute messages for Belegar, trying to scrape together any remaining support to be had before leaving.
- [X] To Dwarfholds of the Grey and Black Mountains.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by Sinsystems on Mar 27, 2018 at 4:54 AM, finished with 13373 posts and 51 votes.
 
[X] Accept as the most senior Wizard present (commanding two Amber Journeymen and one Gold Journeyman).
[X] Spend time with your wolf pup, trying to develop a famliar bond.
[X] The Winter Wolves
[X] Deliver last-minute messages for Belegar, trying to scrape together any remaining support to be had before leaving.
-[X] To Dwarfholds of the Grey and Black Mountains.
 
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It should be noted that the Stirlander forces left home because of the changes that were happening. They are extreme traditionalists. As such they would probably not approve of a Wizard, one known for trying to 'revolutionise' the Watch, coming in and telling them what to do.
They may obey our reputation but I doubt they would respect us.

[X] Accept as the most senior Wizard present (commanding two Amber Journeymen and one Gold Journeyman).
[X] The Amber Wizard journeymen.
[X] The Gold Wizard journeyman.
[X] Spend time with your wolf pup, trying to develop a famliar bond.
 
[x] Deliver last-minute messages for Belegar, trying to scrape together any remaining support to be had before leaving.
- [x] To Dwarfholds of the Grey and Black Mountains.

Not that invested in anything else, so shifting my vote to just this. Darklight is right about it being priority.
 
It should be noted that the Stirlander forces left home because of the changes that were happening. They are extreme traditionalists. As such they would probably not approve of a Wizard, one known for trying to 'revolutionise' the Watch, coming in and telling them what to do.
They may obey our reputation but I doubt they would respect us.
We are far more known for our reputation as a warrior and as the successful commander of men who levelled Drakenhof. We would be respected. We also have Peasants and Townsfolk connections, the description of the former saying we know "how to talk to them without them seeing you as an outsider or a threat."
 
2475: There's tensions between Middenland and Nordland over some stretch of unoccupied forest or another.

2476: "The Ar-Ulric has backed the Middenland land claims, and in response the Grand Theogonist has backed Nordland."

2477: The Elector's Meet, originally called to discuss the possibility of Imperial contribution to the Dwarven reconquest of Karak Eight Peaks, has turned completely from that to address the growing crisis between Middenland and Nordland. Entire towns between the rivers Salz and Demst have been razed to the ground with their populace disappeared, and though no evidence is present Nordland is accusing Middenland, who in turn neither claims nor denies responsibility, are instead are once more accusing Nordland of stealing land they have no claim to. The Elector Counts near came to blows in the Meet, with the Ar-Ulric and the Grand Theogonist almost following suit as they backed their respective sides.

2479: First, there are Nordlanders who have abandoned their home province in the face of entire villages disappearing overnight ... Middenlanders - religious exiles, apparently, who speak darkly of conflict within the Ulrican church
It sounds very much like a textbook false flag(classic, have a band of mercenaries or marauders raze some minor villages along a tense border to trigger feudal responsibilities)...except in such a case Middenland would have outright denied responsibility.

The strangest part is that the Nordlander deserters(?) and the Winter Wolves get along well enough to concede leadership!

Well it depends on whether we build on the initial good impression with the head ranger, and use his subordinates to bring the other wizards stealth skills up to a passable level. Because nothing is more Gandalf than being at the tail end of a train of dwarfs pursued by orcs.
I would point out that Gold Wizards are bullshit amazing at sabotage, if you can get them in range of enemy weapons without being shot at. Less useful on orcs due to their shitty weaponry, but if its ratman it's totes Hilarity Ensues.
What the fuck? Middenland is totally complicit in something, and the Cult of Ulric knows.

[X] The Winter Wolves

Please vote for this, people. There's some deep shit going on up north, and we need to know. The Empire is being stupid again.
Keeping in mind Mathilde doesn't have to do everything, and that the Cult of Ulric(as the Winter Wolves are), don't have much love for:
-Magic
-Guns

I'd personally suggest talking to them after one of the battles, when they have more to judge us by than being a Grey Wizard. Its not like anything we learn is going to be applied sooner than half a decade.
Oh gods we're heading for another Karak Ungor again.
Please stop mentioning that. The GM is sick of it.
Did Roswita critfail rearming her army or something?

With that many people lost, Stirland basically does not have an army anymore, lol.
Well:
Anton spends some time trying to talk himself into going with you, but no matter how he tries to twist things he can't get around the responsibility he has to Blutdorf. He apologizes to you for his inability to come with, and makes you promise to not die. Then he makes you follow him around for half a day as he tries to find a suitable going away present, and finally presents you with a cartload of the finest crossbows Blutdorf has to offer. You point it towards the forces gathering in Averland, thank Anton, and give him the biggest hug you can muster.
Whoops?

You seem to be saying that something as mere as the Halflings saving Stirland would be enough to curb Moot revanchism. But that's silly.
Yeah, pretty unlikely, given that the Moot alone would probably double Stirland's agricultural income. Currently its deferred by the push across the Haunted Hills
 
[X] The Winter Wolves
[X] Spend time with your wolf pup, trying to develop a famliar bond.
because A: Im with @HanEmpire, they know something, and B: they can help, they know shit about raising wolves!
 
[X] Accept as the most senior Wizard present (commanding two AmberJourneymen and one Gold Journeyman).
[X] The Amber Wizard journeymen.
[X] Deliver last-minute messages for Belegar, trying to scrape together any remaining support to be had before leaving.
- [X] To Dwarfholds of the Grey and Black Mountains.

I agree that we want support from the dwarves of the Grey/Black mountains but if they didn't heed the calls of other dwarves why would thry heed ours?
 
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[x] Accept as leader of the Stirlander forces (commanding 5,000 crossbowmen and 5,000 huntsmen).
[x] The Stirlander forces
[x] Spend time with your wolf pup, trying to develop a famliar bond.
[x] Deliver last-minute messages for Belegar, trying to scrape together any remaining support to be had before leaving.
- [x] To Dwarfholds of the Grey and Black Mountains.
 
So, what do you guys think sounds most impressive to a dwarf?

'Commander of 10,000 crossbows' or 'commander of 3 journeymanlings'? You know, if you want to be taken seriously as a force at the table. I mean, even the term 'journeymanling' sounds like an insult.
 
It should be noted that the Stirlander forces left home because of the changes that were happening. They are extreme traditionalists. As such they would probably not approve of a Wizard, one known for trying to 'revolutionise' the Watch, coming in and telling them what to do.
They may obey our reputation but I doubt they would respect us.
No, that's not true at all.

We are a war hero in Stirland. Nigh on a mythical figure for some.

We damn well destroyed Drakenhoff without taking a single casualty. They will be glad we are leading them.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by Sinsystems on Mar 27, 2018 at 4:54 AM, finished with 13373 posts and 51 votes.
 
[X] Accept as the most senior Wizard present (commanding two Amber Journeymen and one Gold Journeyman).

[X] The Amber Wizard journeymen.
[X] Spend time with your wolf pup, trying to develop a famliar bond.

[X] Deliver last-minute messages for Belegar, trying to scrape together any remaining support to be had before leaving.
-[X] To Dwarfholds of the Grey and Black Mountains.
 
No, that's not true at all.

We are a war hero in Stirland. Nigh on a mythical figure for some.

We damn well destroyed Drakenhoff without taking a single casualty. They will be glad we are leading them.
Our main contribution to the command structure was threatening to execute anyone who suggested we stop before the castle fell. We have credit, but not that much.
 
[x] Accept as leader of the Stirlander forces (commanding 5,000 crossbowmen and 5,000 huntsmen).

[x] The Halfling forces

I want my Gandalf comparison chart update, dammit!


[x] Deliver last-minute messages for Belegar, trying to scrape together any remaining support to be had before leaving.
- [x] To Dwarfholds of the Grey and Black Mountains.


We distinctly lack artillery for a dwarven army. This shall not pass.

[x] Deliver last-minute messages for Belegar, trying to scrape together any remaining support to be had before leaving.
- [x] To mercenaries.

Maybe we'll meet Asarnil once again?

[x] Deliver last-minute messages for Belegar, trying to scrape together any remaining support to be had before leaving.
- [x] To the Colleges of Magic.

We need more underlings.
 
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Our main contribution to the command structure was threatening to execute anyone who suggested we stop before the castle fell. We have credit, but not that much.
When all the other commanders accept that you have the power to execute them if you feel like it, and the men under your command raze the 700 years of history of Stirland's most terrible enemy on your order, that makes you a war hero.

#WarHeroFacts
 
We've seen the Dwarves, what might the other potential reactions to Mathilde be like?

Ulricans: "Has magic. Has wolf. Has disdain for Sigmar. Well, two out of three ain't bad."
Taalians: "Ehhh. Not a fan. But not worth making a fuss over. We've got enemies to focus on."
Myrmidians: "Hmmm. Wizards tend to make things interesting. This could go either way."
Stirlanders: "Ooo, it's the Destroyer of Drakenhof! Suddenly I feel a lot more optimistic about this campaign."
Amber: "Question is, is this going to be one of the too-clever-by-half plotting shadowmancers or one of the sensibly cunning shadowmancers?"
Gold: "Nice, I can deal with substantial matters and she can deal with the insubstantial."
 
Clan Angrund
King Belegar Ironhammer
Halken Stonebeard, Eldest of Clan Angrund
200 Longbeards
800 Runed Warriors

Karak Kadrin
2,000 Slayers
1,000 Warriors
1,000 Quarrelers

Karak Hirn
Ulthar Alriksson, Head Ranger
3,000 Warriors
1,000 Quarrelers
1,000 Rangers
10 Bolt Throwers

Karak Izor
Skaroki Grimbrow, Thane of Karak Izor
6,000 Warriors
2,000 Miners
2,000 Thunderers
10 Cannon

Glory-Seekers and Combined Contributions from Other Holds
10,000 Warriors
6,000 Miners
2,000 Quarrelers
2,000 Rangers

Human and Halfling Adventurers
Magister of the Grey Order
2 Journeymen of the Amber Order
1 Journeyman of the Gold Order
Knights of Taal's Fury - 250 Demigryph-mounted Knights, 500 footmen.
Knights of the Vengeful Sun - 250 Demigryph-mounted Knights, 500 footmen.
Winter Wolves - 250 Wolf Riders, 2000 dismounted knights.
10,000 Nordlanders
8,000 Ulricans
5,000 Stirland Crossbowmen
5,000 Stirland Huntsmen
5,000 Halfling Fieldwardens
5,000 Halfling camp followers
10,000 miscellaneous mercenaries, adventurers, and vagabonds.
So breakdown of forces:
-Melee:
--King Belegar Ironhammer(Commander in chief)
--Halken Stonebeard(Dwarf Champion)
--Skaroki Grimbrow(Dwarf Commander)
--200 Longbeards(dwarf heavy infantry)
--800 Runed Warriors(dwarf ultraheavy infantry)
--2000 Slayers(dwarf berserkers)
--20000 Warriors(dwarf medium infantry)
--1000 Footmen(human heavy infantry)
--2000 Knights(human elite heavy infantry)
--18000 Human Light/Medium infantry(mixed)

So...we have a shitload of heavy and medium infantry, with dwarf leadership available. This is good in tunnels.

-Ranged:
--Ulthar Alirksson, Head Ranger
--Mathilde - Grey Order Magister
--3000 Rangers(dwarf tunnel recon experts)
--4000 Quarrelers(dwarf crossbows)
--2000 Thunderers(dwarf gunners)
--5000 Stirland Crossbowmen(Human crossbows)
--5000 Stirland Huntsmen(Human archery/recon)
--5000 Halfling Fieldwardens(halfling archery)

We also have a shitload of ranged units, with dwarf leadership available.
This is good to back up the front line. They seem unlikely to be challenged unless something defeats the army on the Melee(unlikely, given how much heavy is in there) or the Scouting fronts.

-Cavalry:
--Mathilde - Grey Order Magister
--750 monstrous cavalry

We got a hell of a shock prow with all the knightly orders showing up. Hard to use in tunnels and presumably they have their own commanders

-Artillery:
--10 Bolt Throwers(dwarf ballista)
--10 Cannon(dwarf)

We got a...sad amount of artillery. We can assume enemies to have artillery parity. No artillery duels if possible, we want scouts to flag enemy pieces for precision removal, or to sneak a gold wizard into sight range of one of those. Weakening metal is amazing for any siege engine.

-Magic:
--Mathilde - Grey Order Magister
--2 Amber Order Journeymen
--1 Gold Order Journeyman

We're going to pray hard that no lord level spellcasters show up. Because it looks like we are IT for counterspelling.

-Scouting:
--Mathilde - Grey Order Magister
--Ulthar Alirksson, Head Ranger
--3000 Rangers(dwarf tunnel recon experts)

We have a hefty number of recon units for an army this size. Going to need it to counter the above lacks

-Misc:
--8000 Miners(Dwarf combat engineers)

On the bright side we have enough miners to go Through The Walls...

As such, I think the Magic side needs leadership much more. The Stirland ranged units can be used identically to less accurate Quarellers and rangers. We can assume competency here.

But theres going to be hell countering enemy magic bullshit and enemy artillery. The dwarf experience with magic units can be boiled down to "stand there and wait to dispel incoming bullshit" Which is a bit unpleasant for Journeymen to be reliable at.
Amber: "Question is, is this going to be one of the too-clever-by-half plotting shadowmancers or one of the sensibly cunning shadowmancers?"
Gold: "Nice, I can deal with substantial matters and she can deal with the insubstantial."
The Gold order is known to be friend with the Grey. The Amber...are considered weird by the Grey, but useful.
 
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