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So... hmm. I'm having trouble deciding, because I can see the reasoning for a linguist. (Help with actually a dictionary from people who know how to make dictionaries seems legit. Or, from another perspective, it's like a programmer getting a technical writer to help with the manual for their program.) I also would like to help out Hubert, but do also want more time with Panoramia, and possibly apologize to her for giving the Runelord duo the idea to boil dirt.

I definitely do want to take the Diplomacy class, because there are a bunch of things Mathilde has missed, and seeing the "oh, that's what that meant" should be a lot of fun.

As far as AV goes, I would rather like to try to start at the top and work down, just because it might well be a previously-lost ingredient for crafting Runes, and for that to be determined, you go to a Runelord. (I seem to recall one possibly-apocryphal bit about the forging of the Runefangs involving Demon blood...)
They ran into everything. The Jade Colleges weren't just fighting for their lives, they were fighting to defend one of the most powerful Henges in the Old World, and they hold Henges sacred.
Yipe. I can think of a few terrible things they could do, just off hand, with Earth-native plants. (animated hedge of poison ivy, for one?) Given the sort encountered in the purge of the Haunted Hills:
Mother-die, the horrifically-named tree that grows out rather than up, with soft white flowers and shiny red berries and jagged thorns as long as a man's hand. Spined Spurge, a sprawling climbing shrub with every stem festooned with barbed spines - they say that if a man dies touching a Spurge, it will envelop his corpse and never let it rise, which makes it popular among villages unsupervised by the Morrites. The Brambles, a variety of dense shrubs with tasty berries that can grow as fast as a man can walk, or so they say, and are - inevitably - covered in thorns.
 
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How much do we know about Johann's backstory? There's not a huge amount of info in the dramatis personae, and I'm struggling to think of where else that info might have shown up. I'm working on an omake and I'd like to know how much I can make up.
 
It seems our enigmatic Skaven-mask-stealing co-conspirator, chemical-bath-shattering Grungni punch machine Johann is truly a mystery, wrapped in an enigma, wrapped in conceptual gold.
 
These actually are Earth-native plants, including their IRL folk tales.



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I found the Mother-die but I can't find any clear matches for "Spined Spurge" and "the Brambles" is too vague to match up to a single plant. Would you mind clarifying what the real life counterparts for those are?
 
I found the Mother-die but I can't find any clear matches for "Spined Spurge" and "the Brambles" is too vague to match up to a single plant. Would you mind clarifying what the real life counterparts for those are?

I tried reversing my steps, but it's been too long. I know they were based on plants that grow on chalk with just the names tweaked, but there's a lot of spurges and a lot of brambles out there.
 
WESTERN STIRLAND

Wurtbad (Capital) - Elector Count Abelhelm Van Hal
Wordern (County) - controlled by the Elector Count
@BoneyM Apologies if I'm being pedantic for bringing this up, however this tidbit under the Stirland Map is no longer applicable. RIP Abel :(
Also, do you have plans to update the map with the progress against the vampires or is it not a priority? Wondering why Rosie hasn't pushed towards Teufelheim yet after we cleared Alkharad from there.
 
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I found the Mother-die but I can't find any clear matches for "Spined Spurge" and "the Brambles" is too vague to match up to a single plant. Would you mind clarifying what the real life counterparts for those are?

Actually, I gave the ol' memory a few kicks and I think 'Spined Spurge' was the crown-of-thorns, Euphorbia milii, and 'the Brambles' is actually just blackberry.

@BoneyM Apologies if I'm being pedantic for bringing this up, however this tidbit under the Stirland Map is no longer applicable. RIP Abel :(
Also, do you have plans to update the map with the progress against the vampires or is it not a priority? Wondering why Rosie hasn't pushed towards Teufelheim yet after we cleared Alkharad from there.

If Mathilde was still in Sylvania I would be keeping that section up to date, but as it is it'd be a lot of work for little value added to the quest. I've put a note on that section saying it's as of turn 14.

@BoneyM did the Amber College use gympie gympie plants too?

I mostly stick to European plants for the Old World.
 
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So when we submit the Skaven dictionary to the Empire, how long do you think it will take for them to share that with the other human nations?
 
There's also only really one place to share it with that might work; Kislev. Everyone else is too far away, too disunited, or too Bretonnia to do anything helpful with it.
 
I just had a thought pop up re-reading Empress Heidi's introduction. What are the odds that Mathilde is the only Grey Wizard to know of her true background?

It seems the Emperor isn't aware she's secretly not a legit Haupt-Anderssen, thus the Grey College shouldn't either, otherwise they'd be obligated to read him in. Which is weird because normally you'd think the Grey College would do a complete background check, knowing how suspicious/scrupulous they are, especially since the previous Empress was compromised by Lahmians.

Plus some Grey Wizards are supposedly known to worship Ranald so there should be higher chance of spotting/recognizing each other if those ones checked her.
 
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I just had a thought pop up re-reading Empress Heidi's introduction. What are the odds that Mathilde is the only Grey Wizard to know of her true background?

It seems the Emperor isn't aware she's secretly not a legit Haupt-Andersen, thus the Grey College shouldn't either, otherwise they'd be obligated to read him in. Which is weird because normally you'd think the Grey College would do a complete background check especially after the previous Empress was compromised by Lahmians.
Well, Ranald did spend a lot of his mojo on that Gambit.
Mork/Gork are still pissed :p
 
Never, because that would breach the Conspiracy and result in the Skaven attacking the Empire again. Best not tempt fate on this one.
Well obviously it wouldn't be shared obviously, but covertly spreading it would probably be a good idea. Since if select people knew the information that would allow for opposing the Skaven in ways that doesn't hurt the conspiracy, such as being able to forge documents and plant them in a location in order to trigger Skaven vs Skaven conflict.
 
I've already raised this prior but apparently the focus is only on Johann but:
-Why linguists?
--You want linguists to make a teaching guide. Knowing a language is vastly different from being qualified to teach it. Linguists help with working out how best to convey teaching it. Without linguists what we have is a dictionary, it has words = words. But a dictionary is not a translation guide, there are linguistic structure rules to factor in, turns of phrase and metaphor which would collapse if you aren't an Ulgu twisty-logic wizard with a genius level intellect. This is especially important when you're working with recovered letters and such which are already missing context, and you need every bit of reference that could fit.
--The option is there. It suggests Mathilde doesn't consider it a wasted action. Which is obvious, because we're talking about a six month span, and it costs 1 AP, one month of dedicated work from the linguists. We consult with linguists in January and write the dictionary over May and June, "right at the end of the project" is grossly misleading.
Protagonist syndrome at its finest.
Do you believe that the Empire, and whatever other places we are sending these dictionaries, are utterly lacking in agency? That they don't have their own linguists who can decipher and disseminate the translation? That Mathilde must do everything herself?

People argue time and again that Skaven translation is of immense value to all the forces of order.
Yet now people are arguing that no one but us will bother to put any effort into it if Mathilde doesn't get it perfect.

The linguists are, at this point, just a way of squeezing a couple of extra Favour out of the book on the delivery roll.

So when we submit the Skaven dictionary to the Empire, how long do you think it will take for them to share that with the other human nations?
Never, because that would breach the Conspiracy and result in the Skaven attacking the Empire again. Best not tempt fate on this one.
About as long as it takes the Imperial Spymaster and or Grey College to get a messenger through to deliver an unmarked, book-shaped package.
 
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