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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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veekie said:
Well, they chose to lead from the front...
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When Van got a spear through stomach.
"That's bullshit!"
"Yeah! We chose to be the tip of 4th wave specifically to avoid this!"
"Hell was Van wearing? Plate of cardboard?"
"I told you lot standing anywhere near the front was a bad idea, but did anyone listen? Noooo, it's will be a cake walk you said; we will dine in town with Dame Weber in the afternoon you said."
"The dine idea was fine!"
"Beside the point! Now we have to choose which of the poor sods to be the Count, and we used all our FATE point on getting that damned book!"
 
Ouch, those rolls. At least I don't need to feel bad about arguing for us to stay indoors, with that kind of luck we'd be doomed no matter what.

[X] A book of necromancy, a newly-dead body. This doesn't need to be the end of Abelhelm. Raise him, and not in the clumsy way of the fumblers you're facing: you can make him a body superior to that of the living.
Faith didn't work, college magic didn't work, time to try the third approach!
 
chocolote12 said:
Without wearing armor. Or having any of their bodyguards nearby, even though even their spymaster has fifteen of them assigned to her for her normal living conditions.
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Pretty sure he was wearing chainmail as part of his classic Witch Hunter garb.
Not having the spearhead backed by his Greatswords rather than line troops was a somewhat difficult decision in hindsight.
 
Thanks @BoneyM , must have been hard to write. Thank you for not pulling any punches, doing so takes out the worth in a quest.

You know, I was wondering when all that deficit in Karma Anton was building up would come to call. :V
[X] The vacuum must be filled. Step forward and takecommand. Fulfil Van Hal's final legacy in the manner that it begun.
[X] This is a religious matter; turn it over to the Black Guard of Morr.
 
chocolote12 said:
Without wearing armor. Or having any of their bodyguards nearby, even though even their spymaster has fifteen of them assigned to her for her normal living conditions.
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Our armor spell gives us chain-mail level armor without the weight and doesn't stack with regular armor, and our bodyguards were supposed to be right behind us.
oh wait u ment him im stupid
 
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BoneyM said:
At last, his eyes open, his expression bleak. "Sigmar's light does not shine here."

The words hang in the air, and then you respond, furious. "What the hell do you mean? If Sigmar's light doesn't penetrate here, where it is most needed, then what bloody point is he?" His head falls to his chest, his eyes close, and he makes no effort to refute your words. You want to rage at him, strike him, chase him from the tent, but though his god seems to be proving impotent he can still be useful. "The Light Wizard. Jovi Sunscryer. Go find him - magic must do what your faith cannot."

Chastened, Kasmir leaves the tent, and you collapse back on the seat at Van Hal's side. You had been so sure it was over, that Sigmar would make himself useful once more and heal Van Hal, but instead he'd failed you. Van Hal was right to lose faith in Sigmar, you reflect, if this is the thanks he gets after a lifetime of service to Sigmar's empire.
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BoneyM said:
"Then you heal him," you say.

"I already-" he stops, as he observes the pistol pointed at his face. He nods, and kneels once more at Van Hal's bedside.

[Trying again: 25-20(lacks confidence)=5]

Again, the light of Sigmar's intervention you'd grown so familiar with fails to manifest; again, you feel the tiny flicker of hope inside of you be snuffed out. Kasmir remains there for what must be half an hour, muttered prayers filling the tent, but in the end he rises and you don't even have the strength to shoot him for his failure. He looks bleakly down at Van Hal, then looks to you, sorrow and apology on his face, before leaving.
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So, how much of that "lacks confidence" penalty is gonna stick around? Because I think we might have broken our priest.
 
racnor said:
So, how much of that "lacks confidence" penalty is gonna stick around? Because I think we might have broken our priest.
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Look at it from a zealous Sigmarite's perspective:
-The Grand Theogonist refused to send aid to fight the forces of Old Night. Sigmarites refusing aid to people fighting vampires.
-NONE of Sigmar's Empire sent anything in fact.

-The Morrites sent their knights.
-The Colleges sent a Patriarch and battle wizards.
-The Dawi marched to their aid.
-The Asur had a dragon.
-Even the goddamned HALFLINGS sent men.

-Sigmar twice refused his prayers to heal Abelheim, a man he respects.

I think we'd be looking at a crisis of faith that we're ill suited to addressing.
 
[X] The vacuum must be filled. Step forward and take command. Fulfil Van Hal's final legacy in the manner that it begun.
[X] Do nothing with it; your role is to safeguard it.

Still tempted to raise him from the dead, but this is a decent secondary option.

[ ] To hell with the campaign; Abelhelm Van Hal was failed. Find the Greatswords, find the officers that were to be leading the fourth wave, find every man that did not stand shoulder to shoulder with Van Hal, and extract answers and then extract justice.

Very tempted to do this, but I'm holding myself back by promising that as soon as the war that cost Van Hal his life is over we are doing this for sure.
 
veekie said:
Look at it from a zealous Sigmarite's perspective:
-The Grand Theogonist refused to send aid to fight the forces of Old Night. Sigmarites refusing aid to people fighting vampires.
-NONE of Sigmar's Empire sent anything in fact.

-The Morrites sent their knights.
-The Colleges sent a Patriarch and battle wizards.
-The Dawi marched to their aid.
-The Asur had a dragon.
-Even the goddamned HALFLINGS sent men.

-Sigmar twice refused his prayers to heal Abelheim, a man he respects.

I think we'd be looking at a crisis of faith that we're ill suited to addressing.
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The current reining emperor must be face-palming so hard. "Best chance to waste Sylvania and everyone's like LOL i'm busy, it's shit like this that turns good people to chaos."
 
On the note of that book, we need to make damn sure no one gets their hands on the bloody thing. Which means at the very least creating over a dozen decoys all of which trapped to Murder Death Kill anyone who tries to read them and locking each in completely different vaults.
 
King Arthur said:
[ ] To hell with the campaign; Abelhelm Van Hal was failed. Find the Greatswords, find the officers that were to be leading the fourth wave, find every man that did not stand shoulder to shoulder with Van Hal, and extract answers and then extract justice.

Very tempted to do this, but I'm holding myself back by promising that as soon as the war that cost Van Hal his life is over we are doing this for sure.
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Yes, we should do that, but not right now. Our blood is up, I'm not sure we wouldn't go full Commissar right now if we picked the option. And that'd rip the core out of our army since these are all essential to army operations.

Justice must be done in cold blood.
VoidZero said:
The current reining emperor must be face-palming so hard. "Best chance to waste Sylvania and everyone's like LOL i'm busy, it's shit like this that turns good people to chaos."
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I'm not so sure about that. He's involved in the north-south political mess himself and probably wondering why Abelheim picked such a bad time to do this.
 
We should probably do something to make sure that the halflings know we won't forget that, by the way. It's the least we can do for that show of good will.
Sinsystems said:
On the note of that book, we need to make damn sure no one gets their hands on the bloody thing. Which means at the very least creating over a dozen decoys all of which trapped to Murder Death Kill anyone who tries to read them and locking each in completely different vaults.
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The greatest defence is anonymity. Nobody knows, and, due to proper precautions on behalf of the Morrites, nobody will be telling.
 
[x] The body must be escorted to it's final rest, in either Wurtbad or Altdorf. Remain by Van Hal's side. Whatever happens.
This is how we meet the little van hals, if anyone is up for it
 
Because this option won't win:

[x] To hell with the campaign; Abelhelm Van Hal was failed. Find the Greatswords, find the officers that were to be leading the fourth wave, find every man that did not stand shoulder to shoulder with Van Hal, and extract answers and then extract justice.
[x] A book of necromancy, a newly-dead body. This doesn't need to be the end of Abelhelm. Raise him, and not in the clumsy way of the fumblers you're facing: you can make him a body superior to that of the living.
 
chocolote12 said:
We should probably do something to make sure that the halflings know we won't forget that, by the way. It's the least we can do for that show of good will.

The greatest defence is anonymity. Nobody knows, and, due to proper precautions on behalf of the Morrites, nobody will be telling.
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I suppose but we need to take as many precautions as possible with this book, so at the very least we need to stick the box it is in inside another box which we have enchanted to Murder Death Kill anyone who opens it.
 
Sinsystems said:
I suppose but we need to take as many precautions as possible with this book, so at the very least we need to stick the box it is in inside another box which we have enchanted to Murder Death Kill anyone who opens it.
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the problem with that is, the outer box will then GLOW to anyone with witchsight, basically saying "Hey! Important magic here!"
 
DocMatoi said:
the problem with that is, the outer box will then GLOW to anyone with witchsight, basically saying "Hey! Important magic here!"
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Put it in a third lead box, then.
Sinsystems said:
I suppose but we need to take as many precautions as possible with this book, so at the very least we need to stick the box it is in inside another box which we have enchanted to Murder Death Kill anyone who opens it.
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So... shyish kebab enchantment? If it's in a lead box I don't think the wind would go anywhere, and if it's pure it can't exactly stagnate into Dhar.
 
Not sure if this is a good idea, what if we dump the damn book in that barrel of snake juice? The snake juice is like rainbow wind so it might melt the Dhar off that book?
 
VoidZero said:
Not sure if this is a good idea, what if we dump the damn book in that barrel of snake juice? The snake juice is like rainbow wind so it might melt the Dhar off that book?
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Or the book commandeers the pure magic and transforms it into True Dhar, which is like two thousand percent worse than regular Dhar.
 
chocolote12 said:
We should probably do something to make sure that the halflings know we won't forget that, by the way. It's the least we can do for that show of good will.
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Bit of a sticky problem there. We don't have the authority to make binding decisions there, so whatever we do is likely to be rolled back by the next Count out of self preservation.

Theres a very good reason why most Stirland Counts pursue Moot Revanchism, because:
-Its low hanging fruit. Halflings are easier to deal with than vampires.
-Its their ancestral lands. This means that even if the COUNT wants to make nice he'd be facing major opinion hits across Stirland because you just declared that dozens of nobles with papers pointing to their claims on Mootland lose all their claims.
-They're non-humans and thus not to be trusted. To be fair, this applies even to Dwarfs, but halflings have nothing backing them up.

If a Count of Stirland were to fix this their first step would be to acquire vast amounts of prestige first so they can afford to declare the Moot moot, and survive the reaction rather than watch the province shut down and catch fire.

Best we can do is probably write down the campaign and publish it.
 
[X] The vacuum must be filled. Step forward and take command. Fulfil Van Hal's final legacy in the manner that it begun.
[X] Do nothing with it; your role is to safeguard it.
 
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