Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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TimEd
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Nooooo! Lets not make the Watch a military unit. Lets keep them to police actions since this would totaly mess up the future status quo like that one time Van Hal disagreed with our special unit plans
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I was thinking more SWAT than SEALS.
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Except we can rely on Greatswords, we've got some squads permanently assigned and available to us. Because they are slow and unsubtle, they just kick back in Eagle Castle making jokes and laying bets about Mathilde, Markus and Van Hal.
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Ranald continues to laugh his arse off.
We got Asarnil? Nice. Very nice indeed.
[] The spell used by the informants in Eagle Castle is like nothing you've heard of before. You want to see if you can detect or replicate it.
[] If we've got vampire troubles, maybe you should spend some time investigating how to counter vampiric infiltration.
[] It looks like something is stirring in the Stirhugel. This should probably be looked into.
[ ] The Wurtbadian Watch is now your attack dog - let it's reach spread across Stirland.
[ ] For no particular reason, how about I see about building a unit in the army dedicated to catching terrible necromantic gribblies? In a way that conforms to Van Hal's criticisms.
Any of these look promising from a 'doing our job' perspective.
Were the Birdmen on the list? Or the Giants of Albion?
...Gotrex and Felix?
DarkLight140
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Here's an initial vote plan. Hits the main points on our recent public activity and brings up the newly-identified likely threat, mentions the unfortunately cold trail of our predecessor. I agree that we need to talk to Van Hal about external intel, @Exmorri, but I don't think it should be an order- he won't choose it yet and we get no feedback at all on his opinions of the orders he doesn't choose. Let's just sound him out in private.
For orders, chose simple and practical options- unfortunately, there are a lot of simple and practical options. I kind of expect Van Hal to zero in on Stirhugel no matter what else we throw in there as he doesn't seem the type to let a known threat grow unwatched, but he might surprise me.
Let me know if I overlooked anything important, please.
[x] [Public Report] Steady Progress, Spotted Issue
-[x] The Watch has continued to expand at a steady rate; we have solid coverage over the counties of Purgg and Wurtbad. Bureaucrats have continued to be difficult to come by- even when we went to Altdorf and Nuln. We need that problem to be solved or this kind of expansion won't be sustainable. Further, our source of new Watchmen is cut off for the next year or so since no one will be retiring from the army, putting a temporary halt on expansion from that as well.
-[x] Gustav has kindly authorized our implementation of an intelligence attaché program; we hope that by the time the army moves into Sylvania we'll have enough well-trained observers alongside them to furnish us with detailed, accurate records of exactly what they encountered and where which we'll be able to analyze to produce all kinds of useful intelligence.
-[x] We have noticed some troubling trends in the Stirhugel- nothing blatant, but the attacks on herds throughout the area are an obvious sign once all the reports are gathered together, even if the locals are attributing it to animal attacks for now. In our opinion there is something going on there.
[x] [Private Report] He's Long Gone and Other Sundries
-[x] We finally got decent intelligence work done in Julbach; there was a reclusive noble from Wurtbad with a home there who hasn't been seen in years. Likely our predecessor as it fits with what else we know of him, but it could be some other group and there's nothing to follow up on easily.
-[x] With the Elector's Meet coming up, we're interested in Van Hal's take on external intelligence. We haven't prioritized it at all given Stirland's internal concerns and the importance of growing our network around home, but does he want us to be thinking about getting eyes elsewhere in the Empire?
-[x] You suspect that Gustav might be understating the army's casualties a bit, more as a result of his personality than anything malicious. Still, something to keep in mind if he's making a habit of it.
-[x] If Van Hal wishes, you could write the Colleges requesting that wizards come to Stirland for the upcoming campaign. They won't come cheap, but there's a lot to be said for a more battle-oriented wizard than you being part of any venture into Sylvania.
-[x] Are we expecting to confront the Von Carstein believed to live in Castle Drakenhof, who claims the title of Elector Countess, during this campaign? Our information on her from the captured infiltrator is sparse, but she has at least one skilled necromancer in her service based upon the spell they were using, so that could turn ugly fairly quickly.
[x] [Orders] Magic And Vampire Lore Would Help The Attack Too, You Know
-[x] The spell used by the informants in Eagle Castle is like nothing you've heard of before. You want to see if you can detect or replicate it.
-[x] If we've got vampire troubles, maybe you should spend some time investigating how to counter vampiric infiltration.
-[x] The Purge of Haunted HIlls will begin in six months. Perhaps there's a way you can contribute to the preparations.
-[x] It looks like something is stirring in the Stirhugel. This should probably be looked into.
-[x] Your intelligence infrastructure is becoming increasingly costly, and Stirland's finances are limited; perhaps you could dedicate some time to pursuing means of making it self-financing so that it can expand without constantly demanding more of the budget.
For orders, chose simple and practical options- unfortunately, there are a lot of simple and practical options. I kind of expect Van Hal to zero in on Stirhugel no matter what else we throw in there as he doesn't seem the type to let a known threat grow unwatched, but he might surprise me.
Let me know if I overlooked anything important, please.
[x] [Public Report] Steady Progress, Spotted Issue
-[x] The Watch has continued to expand at a steady rate; we have solid coverage over the counties of Purgg and Wurtbad. Bureaucrats have continued to be difficult to come by- even when we went to Altdorf and Nuln. We need that problem to be solved or this kind of expansion won't be sustainable. Further, our source of new Watchmen is cut off for the next year or so since no one will be retiring from the army, putting a temporary halt on expansion from that as well.
-[x] Gustav has kindly authorized our implementation of an intelligence attaché program; we hope that by the time the army moves into Sylvania we'll have enough well-trained observers alongside them to furnish us with detailed, accurate records of exactly what they encountered and where which we'll be able to analyze to produce all kinds of useful intelligence.
-[x] We have noticed some troubling trends in the Stirhugel- nothing blatant, but the attacks on herds throughout the area are an obvious sign once all the reports are gathered together, even if the locals are attributing it to animal attacks for now. In our opinion there is something going on there.
[x] [Private Report] He's Long Gone and Other Sundries
-[x] We finally got decent intelligence work done in Julbach; there was a reclusive noble from Wurtbad with a home there who hasn't been seen in years. Likely our predecessor as it fits with what else we know of him, but it could be some other group and there's nothing to follow up on easily.
-[x] With the Elector's Meet coming up, we're interested in Van Hal's take on external intelligence. We haven't prioritized it at all given Stirland's internal concerns and the importance of growing our network around home, but does he want us to be thinking about getting eyes elsewhere in the Empire?
-[x] You suspect that Gustav might be understating the army's casualties a bit, more as a result of his personality than anything malicious. Still, something to keep in mind if he's making a habit of it.
-[x] If Van Hal wishes, you could write the Colleges requesting that wizards come to Stirland for the upcoming campaign. They won't come cheap, but there's a lot to be said for a more battle-oriented wizard than you being part of any venture into Sylvania.
-[x] Are we expecting to confront the Von Carstein believed to live in Castle Drakenhof, who claims the title of Elector Countess, during this campaign? Our information on her from the captured infiltrator is sparse, but she has at least one skilled necromancer in her service based upon the spell they were using, so that could turn ugly fairly quickly.
[x] [Orders] Magic And Vampire Lore Would Help The Attack Too, You Know
-[x] The spell used by the informants in Eagle Castle is like nothing you've heard of before. You want to see if you can detect or replicate it.
-[x] If we've got vampire troubles, maybe you should spend some time investigating how to counter vampiric infiltration.
-[x] The Purge of Haunted HIlls will begin in six months. Perhaps there's a way you can contribute to the preparations.
-[x] It looks like something is stirring in the Stirhugel. This should probably be looked into.
-[x] Your intelligence infrastructure is becoming increasingly costly, and Stirland's finances are limited; perhaps you could dedicate some time to pursuing means of making it self-financing so that it can expand without constantly demanding more of the budget.
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Yes, all of the above. I would have had to get creative for Gotrek and Felix, though - they don't meet for a few decades yet.
I'm with Anton and Mathilde on this one. The mount definitely counts.
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One thing to note- expanding the Stirland Watch is impossible for the next year because of that hiring hiatus. Instead, I'd suggest we focus on resolving the big funding deficit we have.
Oh, and worth adding a private note on Gustavs minor underestimation of casualties from last turn.
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Yes, Saltpeter is a gold (piss?) mine, but it will need investment in staff and a processing building to kick off.
Apparantly horse stables lined with sand were also a thing for gathering urine, the Swiss Method. Stirland will be increasing its cavalry under Gustav, I'm sure.
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That helps Stirland not necessarily us. I'd rather Trade Delegation, that goes to us to expand our network with. Van Hal is already pushing back when we ask for more coin. It's true that if we get other income for Stirland he may up our budget, but it's more straight forward to just make the money ourselves.
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As hilarious as surprise dragonrider is, do we have enough conventional forces for the attack now?
TimEd
Meteor maker
Since theres not supposed to be an overseeing necromancer here, we SHOULD even withou the dragonrider. Lets just wait and see what Ranald has to say to that.
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Guys, two things occur to me:
1) This might just the break Stirland needs to mobilize the entire army and annihilate Drakenhof Castle.
2) We have yet to inform him that there's a Countess Drakenhoff curretnly living there. A powerful vampire necromancer.
3) Due to "2", he might not give Drakenhoff enough of a priority. Haunted Hills are bad, but that place is the beating heart of evil within Stirland.
1) This might just the break Stirland needs to mobilize the entire army and annihilate Drakenhof Castle.
2) We have yet to inform him that there's a Countess Drakenhoff curretnly living there. A powerful vampire necromancer.
3) Due to "2", he might not give Drakenhoff enough of a priority. Haunted Hills are bad, but that place is the beating heart of evil within Stirland.
DarkLight140
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Good call on Gustav.
I initially thought that expanding the Watch was outright impossible as well, but then why would the option still be on the defaults? "Stirland Watch: Special Branch formed; covering Purgg and Wurtbad. Further expansion impossible for next two turns." could also imply that it's only the "Special Branch" which can't expand so I went with that interpretation.
That said: @BoneyM, if you could be so kind as to clarify...?
One other thing that's been brought up to me is that we can potentially write the Colleges and request support of additional wizards on Van Hal's behalf, if he's willing to hire them for the push. Those College connections on our character sheet aren't just for show, after all, and if they're not working under us then our Journeyman status isn't a problem. Having a Bright or Amythest wizard show up for a season of campaigning could make a significant difference to the military and we're probably the best connection to the Colleges as a whole that Van Hal has. Should we offer to write them in our private orders? The downside being that if he says we should, that's an action slot gone.
Now that you mention it, I do remember being somewhat puzzled at not mentioning her when we first discovered it and then issued an order something like "tell Van Hal everything we discovered about where these agents came from during interrogation". Another one for the private orders, you think?
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Honestly? I found it throughly underwhelming.
It doesn't make Bless Weapon better, it makes it slightly more convinient.
Wouldn't Light be best?
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@BoneyM How likely would it be for Van Hal to chance his given order to Gustav and instead arrange a full mobilization and march for Drakenhoff, if we told him what we found out?
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Well, we also don't need to concentrate on it or spend time buffing it up. I count those aspects a big bonus for using weapon buffing magic.
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Yeah, it's undeniably better.
But it doesn't help any if we have either the slightest of magic weapons or have even a bit of time to prepare.
Realistically, the upgrade will almost never come up.
Shadowsteed got a much better upgrade.
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So, something like:
-[] "Thinking back on it, I may have, well, forgotten to tell you something about those infiltrators. They answered to one Isabella Von Carstein, self-proclaimed Elector Countess of Stirland, currently living at Castle Drakenhoff and whom may or may not be abducting peasants and forcing them to serve as her agents or wither away due Necromantic energy while their families are horribly murdered. Oops?
-[] "Thinking back on it, I may have, well, forgotten to tell you something about those infiltrators. They answered to one Isabella Von Carstein, self-proclaimed Elector Countess of Stirland, currently living at Castle Drakenhoff and whom may or may not be abducting peasants and forcing them to serve as her agents or wither away due Necromantic energy while their families are horribly murdered. Oops?
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Heck yeah, Quickened Spell used to be like four spell levels of metamagic.
It'll help if we get surprise-jumped by some magic gribbly.
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Guys, I think Van Hal already knows about Von Carstein. When we interrogated the noble he told Van Hal and us about it.
And when we interrogated the infiltrator's we already knew that Von Carstein was behind it, and she was surprised that we already knew.
So I'm pretty sure that Van Hal already knows that there is someone calling themselves a Von Carstein running around Slyvannia.
And when we interrogated the infiltrator's we already knew that Von Carstein was behind it, and she was surprised that we already knew.
So I'm pretty sure that Van Hal already knows that there is someone calling themselves a Von Carstein running around Slyvannia.