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That answer was in relation to replacing the waystones with runes, not in regards to using runes in concert with the Waystone network/hooking new regions into the Karaz Ankor Network, by my understanding.
 
Well I'm incredibly disappointed in the Eike stuff, I get that Bony said not to over do the amount of actions we give her, but I feel like some people are taking that as give her the minimum amount we can, and then proceeded to give her things I seriously doubt she'd benefit from.

Seriously Branulhune training? The sword that literally only Mathilde has?
She's already better in combat than Mathilde was at her age.


Also fact that we made it so Mathilde said "Oh don't worry Eike you don't have to run the EIC if you decide you don't want to" then shoved her on that one too.
 
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True, though how much difference there is between "fully operational" and "fully topped up" is hard to say.
(Also i will say that vlag alone probably would have been able to restore the rune of eternity just through its location and the location of waystones up the chain. Their suuuuper northern and sipping energy directly from the chaos wastes is probably enough to power lots of shit.)

Maybe, but Vlag and Dum were one waystone each. Karak Eight Peaks is, well, eight. That makes it about, what, a third of the entire Dwarven Network by itself?
 
The question that gets into is, "Does using magic (for spells and such) use up that magic the same as if it was shunted out with the Vortex, or is it just converted into a different form of magic that still contributes to daemon manifestation?"

In theory, if it's the first, then the function of the Vortex could be replaced by a sufficiently high wizards/m^2. Or magical infrastructure.
Well, the kislev vortex might have the ancient widow slurping magic out of the world to empower herself. And it's entirely possible that wizards and runesmiths have different answers to whether their work consumes magic instead of just temporarily shifting it to a different state. With the way runecraft is described as stripping the winds of their personality before putting them to work, it feels entirely possible they go on to convert them from magic to more mundane energy types in the aftermath.
 
Again, doing Martial stuff with her is how we learn about her Martial stuff. We don't want to put Eike in combat situations if we can avoid doing so, at least not while we can't see most of that part of her sheet, so this seems to be the best option we have.
 
mean, he canonically talked to Morathi once. It was entirely to threaten her about her really dumb plan, but he's theoretically capable.
Iirc that was when morathi stepped onto the island of the dead... That's like a door to door salesman instead of a call...
Maybe, but Vlag and Dum were one waystone each. Karak Eight Peaks is, well, eight. That makes it about, what, a third of the entire Dwarven Network by itself?
Eight waystones crammed into the same area definitely don't have the same draw as two waystones directly next to where all the magic spews into the world.
 
The asking of this in-universe is what causes the Waystone to project to fall apart, no wizard-dad carrots needed.
No one knows what dark words were exchanged to drive the Runelord Thorek to such a rage that he murdered a Grey Lord in the heart of Laurelorn and began the second war of the beard, but it must have been a grave argument indeed.
 
Iirc that was when morathi stepped onto the island of the dead... That's like a door to door salesman instead of a call...
AFAICT she wasn't on the Isle of the Dead. I think she was in Cothique? Not 100% sure, but don't think it was ever mentioned that she was near the actual Vortex.

What! Rune of Eternity is what powers every Karaks Protection of Valaya without which Dwarves would be turning to stone in short order.
No, the Runes of Valaya power the protections. The Rune of Eternity allows the High King to monitor the power, gives him updates on stuff and has some kind of command function for projects, but doesn't directly power anything big (and I'm unsure whether it can even turn off the Runes of Valaya though it can definitely do so for other things).
 
Hmm. It's probably come up at some point in the thousands of pages since it happened, but the recent talk about the Rune of Eternity helped me conceptualize some of Thorgrim's current decisions - specifically, Thorgrim is currently pushing to reclaim another fallen hold, using the re-activation of the Eyes of Grimnir, because he wants to secure another source of incoming power before Karag Dum finishes falling and stops sending its own energy.
 
No one knows what dark words were exchanged to drive the Runelord Thorek to such a rage that he murdered a Grey Lord in the heart of Laurelorn and began the second war of the beard, but it must have been a grave argument indeed.
Said Second War of the Beard ended in an armistice when the secret of what those words were was learned by the Queen of Laurelorn, but this was quickly followed by civil wars in both polities when the secret was somehow revealed to the Kings and Queen of the Dwarves, and the heads of the Eonir houses.

It is said that Tzeentch knows these words of strife-making and keeps that knowledge to themself, waiting for the perfect moment to induce civil war against the states that count themselves enemies of chaos.

A truth that is not known is why the moment is never quite right: because to use the words of strife-making against a entire population would make them known to all the Chaos gods, and not even Tzeentch wants to deal with the resulting copyright nightmare the would occur with the creation of Malal.
 
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No one knows what dark words were exchanged to drive the Runelord Thorek to such a rage that he murdered a Grey Lord in the heart of Laurelorn and began the second war of the beard, but it must have been a grave argument indeed.
Nah, Mathilde would be the one who ends up dead, as literally everyone else in on the project simultaneously decides to beat her to death for some incredibly bad pun based on it.

That or she attempts to make it an acronym or name it after herself.
 
One plus side of using Stirland will be the number of battlemages in the area, why is that? Because they will likely see the Tributary being set up and be able to notice how the ambient magic shifts, meaning they will spread the info to the colleges and hopefully put in a good word for the project's results to the bosses.
 
As Thorek stared across the table towards the smug looking Mathilde, "And that's why it's the perfect acronym", horrified he glanced towards the Grey Lord. There was a moment of solem silence, as a shared brotherhood instantly forming, as Thorek finally understood why his ancestor had worked so thightly with the Elgi in the past.

Their feelings transmiting easily across this newly formed brotherhood of suffering, they both jumped up on the table, as they rushed towards the Ulgi Wizard. Determined to never let Mathilde name anything in this project. For the safety of the world itself.
 
Well I'm incredibly disappointed in the Eike stuff, I get that Bony said not to over do the amount of actions we give her, but I feel like some people are taking that as give her the minimum amount we can, and then proceeded to give her things I seriously doubt she'd benefit from.

Seriously Branulhune training? The sword that literally only Mathilde has?
She's already better in combat than Mathilde was at her age.


Also fact that we made it so Mathilde said "Oh don't worry Eike you don't have to run the EIC if you decide you don't want to" then shoved her on that one too.

I think the training is mostly so we can see how good she is at combat. Point her at some targets and tell her to do her best while Mathilde trains. That said we do have that training sword with the Rune of the Unknown. If she gets good enough with it we can get her a sword with some other similar combination of runes (probably no canon rune though).
 
Enough that without K8P, Vlag and Dum there was a deficit.
Only Vlag and Dum.

I am pretty that these two missing were what made the network go into deficit.

Then we restored K8P and it was enough to at the very least (but probably not just that) break even on production. And then we plugged Vlag and Dum, which were sufficient to do that as well. So yeah. Good for now. Dum will eventually fall, sadly, but stuff should be safe enough.

Assuming that each Karak Waystone is equal, and that there are no diminshing returns for putting eight ones close together, it's a little more than half. There are only seven active Karak Waystones besides K8P, including Vlag and Dum.

Not sure its safe to assume that, but someone´s mentioned before (and i am not digging up the quote, i don´t have that kinda time rn) that according to some materials, K8P apparently sits on a massive goddamn leyline. As in, less than five like that in the world, in the most magical places. So i feel like the estimate, while hopeful, is not entirely baseless.
 
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Well I'm incredibly disappointed in the Eike stuff, I get that Bony said not to over do the amount of actions we give her, but I feel like some people are taking that as give her the minimum amount we can, and then proceeded to give her things I seriously doubt she'd benefit from.

Seriously Branulhune training? The sword that literally only Mathilde has?
She's already better in combat than Mathilde was at her age.


Also fact that we made it so Mathilde said "Oh don't worry Eike you don't have to run the EIC if you decide you don't want to" then shoved her on that one too.
My read of that quote is that Eike's going to be putting in roughly the same amount of work, no matter how many actions we give her. It's just a matter of how much focus and emphasis there is towards any particular subject matter(s). It's not wrong to be focused.

Branulhune training, yes, to unlock her martial on the character sheet, and gauge her disposition towards fighting as a whole. Why do you think Eike would not benefit from Branulhune training?

Being better than Mathilde at quest start is not an achievement, since quest start Mathilde was fairly unprepared—it took her several actions to achieve basic fitness. And it makes a lot of sense for Mathilde to want her apprentice to learn from her mistakes, and be more prepared than she was.

As for the EIC, in the end it's still Eike's choice on whether she wants to take over or not. Taking EIC actions now gets her more familiar with what that would actually entail, and thus helping her to make an informed decision. If it pops up in the narrative that she doesn't want to remain involved, we'll probably stop involving her.
 
Well I'm incredibly disappointed in the Eike stuff, I get that Bony said not to over do the amount of actions we give her, but I feel like some people are taking that as give her the minimum amount we can, and then proceeded to give her things I seriously doubt she'd benefit from.

Seriously Branulhune training? The sword that literally only Mathilde has?
She's already better in combat than Mathilde was at her age.


Also fact that we made it so Mathilde said "Oh don't worry Eike you don't have to run the EIC if you decide you don't want to" then shoved her on that one too.
Eike actions are for her to learn something from what Mathilde's doing, not for her to copy everything 1:1. I imagine Eike can easily finish off her Fitness skill from the process (which is currently at 2/3), and maybe start learning both the Empire Greatswords' style and the Dwarves' Order of Guardians style, both of which Mathilde has been trained in - maybe she can reach Basic Greatsword proficiency.

In the case that, I don't know, she already has a general Swords skill from training in the Grey College (completed or otherwise), she can probably learn something from general sparring and Mathilde telling her about combat in general.
 
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