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Hatalath could be read two ways there: "Some, but not all, of the stones were runed." or "Some, but not all, of the same runes are on those stones."
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The Vortex itself, the actual magic drain is surrounded by Waystones which must have by definition have been the first of their kind since without the Vortex there can be no Waystone Network, there is nowhere to put the magic. That said could the elves have been repurposing old stones while trying to do geo-magical engineering in the middle of a war against extinction? Almost certainly, but that does not make the stones in the pre-vortex timeline waystones. If in a post-apocalyptic scenario someone someone rips up a bunch of existing railway to make a much smaller and more contained line that runs on peddle powered carts that does not mean the later line existed just because the steel in them did.
When reading the post this quote comes from I think it's clear Mathilde uses the plural form in the sense of speaking of multiple instances of the same Rune, because there's just one Rune in that discussion - the Waystone Rune.
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As far as we're aware the Waystone Gold is an eleven invention unrelated to the origins of the first ones.
NavySeel
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It's also been implied the Nehekarans used it in their pyramids from what I remember.
So it seems possible for humans to replicate it.
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We know that the monoliths are in limited supply, so something about them is hard to recreate. I don't think we've got any timeline on the gold showing up or where it comes from, past 'first wave of elven Waystones"?
And I'm not sure pyramid use implies creation rather than recycling.
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
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They covered the Old World in those Waystones, I don't believe they could do that if they couldn't make the material for the Capstones at some point.
It might have been lost.
NavySeel
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It would depend on how much is used really. If they're covering the entire thing in it then they can definitely create it.
At the same time we do at the very least know Humans can reshape it, and the colleges do have a stockpile even if it's not limitless.
We do have the names for waystone gold in 6 different human cultures, all inspired by or directly identical to the names of real life copper-gold alloys.
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Parabola
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If we assume that the gold is like the Runes and they attract the Winds more or facilitate their traversal through them like a lightning rod, then I would assume the original Old Ones monoliths were the best for those purposes, and that the gold is the best that the Elves and Dwarves could come up with using Non-Old-Ones methods - a specific alloy that they either spread really far and really wide, or which is easy enough to figure out with enough research (see: how it is known in many other languages and cultures by different names).
Consider how the Waystone Mathilde saw in Talabheim, the Obelisk of Laws, is made of black marble and unadorned with runes - I think it's very possible that the original Reik basin humans who got there saw the elven-made waystones and thought 'lets make some of those too', but were unable to figure out the gold, and used black marble as an alternative, which is either not as good or not as easy to make more waystones out of.
Isn't black marble the same stuff Nagash's pyramid is made out of?
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My one worry about river waystone stuff is that it might have interesting effects on the fish. Don't think anyone would be happy if we had a Dwarf Fortress Carp moment.
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Whilst I don't particularly want to to do River Leylines, we don't have to worry about magic in the river doing funky stuff. Nehekhara's river was fine up until Nagash pulled off a giant ritual - better than fine it fed their whole country - and I vaguely recall Boney saying something about the magic being passed along in a similar manner to elven leylines, i.e. nigh-undetectable and out of reach.
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
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To be accurate, the river was poisoned by Warpstone medallions that he made, his ritual was not involved, I don't think.
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I think that a lot of the weirder Waystones/Nexus were highly functional prototypes made by the Elves/Dwarves that work well enough to be used as part of the network [maybe better than the 'common' designs], but were deemed to be too resource intensive to make compared to what was finally decided on.
If one is going to cover the world in something, you're gonna try out a number of variations to find the best balance between efficacy and cost/difficulty of construction.
If one is going to cover the world in something, you're gonna try out a number of variations to find the best balance between efficacy and cost/difficulty of construction.
deathofrats0808
Don’t think of it as dying; just as leaving early
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I'd say neither the Elves nor the Dwarfs lost much in the War of the Beard. The Dwarfs probably mostly lost stuff in the Time of Woes, and the Elves in the Sundering (or Malekith's invasion directly following the War of the Beard). Much of the War of the Beard was effectively fought over minor outposts and far flung colonies, the core territories were untouched.
Mopman43
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The Dwarfs probably lost some in the War of Vengeance, mainly in the form of Runelords dying in battle without passing on all of their knowledge.
In theory there might have been something similar among Archmages- they're more prone to writing stuff down, but the White Tower didn't exist yet.
As I understand it, the biggest losses in the War of the Ancients wasn't infrastructure, but experience. A lot of people died, and their knowledge and skills went with them. The survivors spent a lot of the aftermath trying to stabilise their respective societies rather than relearn what had been lost, and with the dwarves in particular this was made severely worse by the Time of Woes, which did affect infrastructure.
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It'll be interesting to see if the uptick in numbers was only due to the contentious and close vote, or if the new readers picked up during the hiatus are sticking around to vote regularly.
EDIT: For comparison, last turn's vote had 99 voters. This one drew 173.
EDIT: For comparison, last turn's vote had 99 voters. This one drew 173.
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