Voted best in category in the Users' Choice awards.
out of the 10 or so turn votes that have happened since boney started adding links to the tally in the update, most have been over 100 and all under 200. so 170 is a higher but not unreasonable amount
 
My sadness rings eternal. I was looking forward to having (very partially) made a winning vote early on. Also getting spooky horserider friends. Oh well, time to get stabbing.
 
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He nods. "The other Orders, no doubt, fill this moment with pomp and ceremony. But we are the Grey Order. Our work is rarely seen and even rarer appreciated. Temper your expectations accordingly. A job performed well needs to be its own reward, for we so rarely see any other."
Doing a rereading, this quote from Algard directed at Mathilde when she is made a Magister is really funny especially since the next important thing she does is joining the Eight Peaks expedition.
 
I'm happy my vote won!

I do hope that next turn we can manage examining the Lustrian books/rubbings with Max and/or doing the Windfall paper with Egrimm (and adding Eike to both, of course). I imagine WEB-MAT plans will be fairly popular in general, honestly.

@mathymancer's 'Father in Shadows' idea also feels like it will be a very strong contender. Not that any plan survives new developments, but absent any push to rearrange some things or an overriding thread desire to do or finish something else, I'll probably support it.
 
You know who I'd like to see inherit Branulhune in the event of Mathilde's demise or "demise", a living master of Branarhune. If and when we get a Branulhune sword spell created and spread throughout the Grey Order then there should be plenty of practitioners of the sword style.
 
You know who I'd like to see inherit Branulhune in the event of Mathilde's demise or "demise", a living master of Branarhune. If and when we get a Branulhune sword spell created and spread throughout the Grey Order then there should be plenty of practitioners of the sword style.
When in doubt, just jab it into a random rock. That always works out for the better.

Problem is finding a good enough rock that does not explode. I got a plan to fix that and we only need to dedicate a measly 4 ap. :V
 
When in doubt, just jab it into a random rock. That always works out for the better.

Problem is finding a good enough rock that does not explode. I got a plan to fix that and we only need to dedicate a measly 4 ap. :V
Well, there's always taking hideous risks using substance of shadow to try and fuse it into a suitably important rock. Sure, it'd probably violently explode, but that's half the fun! I recommend the black pillar in skavenblight. Or maybe the oak of ages.
 
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Well, there's always taking hideous risks using substance of shadow to try and fuse it into a suitably important rock. Sure, it'd probably violently explode, but that's half the fun! I recommend the black pillar in skavenblight.
Mathilde on realizing she's dying fuses it into a rock, and spreads some story about how she'll return some day to reclaim it in the hour of the Empire/Karaz Ankor's greatest need. Then she vanishes.

Either to just mess with future generations, or on the off chance their belief in said story has some effect.

Also accidentally copying Sigmar again.
 
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I'm really curious to see how the river leyline will go. There's lots of big rivers in the Empire, so I imagine it has immense potential to drain magic on a very large scale. We will have to see how well we roll.
 
I'm really curious to see how the river leyline will go. There's lots of big rivers in the Empire, so I imagine it has immense potential to drain magic on a very large scale. We will have to see how well we roll.
The issue with the River leylines is making sure no-one tries to pull a Nagash and turn them into a new Mortis.

Of course unlike Nehekara we're aware that's possible and it wouldn't have anywhere near as much magic flowing through it, but it's still a risk.
 
I'm really curious to see how the river leyline will go. There's lots of big rivers in the Empire, so I imagine it has immense potential to drain magic on a very large scale. We will have to see how well we roll.

I don't think leylines drain magic. I think they transport magic that Waystones have already drained. They're just pipes. You also need the Waystones to act as pumps to actually move magic through them.

We'd need Waystones built on their banks and on islands in the rivers and some way to plug them into existing Waystones at the mouths of the rivers so the magic doesn't just pool there.
 
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The issue with the River leylines is making sure no-one tries to pull a Nagash and turn them into a new Mortis.

Of course unlike Nehekara we're aware that's possible and it wouldn't have anywhere near as much magic flowing through it, but it's still a risk.
No different than what Von Carstein did to Sylvania. Same risks eitherway.
 
I'm really curious to see how the river leyline will go. There's lots of big rivers in the Empire, so I imagine it has immense potential to drain magic on a very large scale. We will have to see how well we roll.
The big problem i see with river Leylines (aside from pumping magic into the drinking water) is that at the end of the river has to be a normal waystone. Just letting it flow into the sea seems problematic.
(also convincing the rulers of the empire that magic in the water is no problem.)
 
No different than what Von Carstein did to Sylvania. Same risks eitherway.
I disagree slightly, Vlad had to first take over Sylvania then destroy the waystones one by one.

The Mortis' corruption from what I remember was a far faster process.

I'm not against the River idea, I just think being aware of potential risks is a good maybe have some way of measuring the Dhar in it so the moment it looks like something bad is happening some sort of force can be sent upstream to prevent it getting worse.

It's probably fine but it's always a good idea to have contingencies for the worst.
 
I'm of the opinion that any dark wizard with the capacity to corrupt and destroy a river leyline also has the power to corrupt and destroy a normal river anyway, so it's not actually making them any more vulnerable than they already are.

Besides, one of the proposed methods of transmission was through the air, and no one seemed worried about a sorcerer corrupting that.
 
The big problem i see with river Leylines (aside from pumping magic into the drinking water) is that at the end of the river has to be a normal waystone. Just letting it flow into the sea seems problematic.
(also convincing the rulers of the empire that magic in the water is no problem.)
Mathildes secret plot, feed the peasants Aether infused water.

Lets see them keep hating wizards when every single one of them is one!
 
I don't think leylines drain magic. I think they transport magic that Waystones have already drained. They're just pipes. You also need the Waystones to act as pumps to actually move magic through them.

We'd need Waystones built on their banks and on islands in the rivers and some way to plug them into existing Waystones at the mouths of the rivers so the magic doesn't just pool there.
Leylines may not directly drain magic, but if we can turn rivers into leylines it will still make it much easier to do so.

It's probably fine but it's always a good idea to have contingencies for the worst.
Agreed on that.
 
I'm of the opinion that any dark wizard with the capacity to corrupt and destroy a river leyline also has the power to corrupt and destroy a normal river anyway, so it's not actually making them any more vulnerable than they already are.

Besides, one of the proposed methods of transmission was through the air, and no one seemed worried about a sorcerer corrupting that.
Because no one voted for the air transmission option because most people thought it was too risky.
 
The rivers of the Empire already have magic flowing through them.

The elemental association of Ghyran is water, just as Aqshy is fire, so Ghyran is attracted to and is absorbed by water, so when it rains the raindrops absorb ambient Ghyran and carry it to the ground, where it flows down into the rivers along with the water it's 'dissolved' into; meaning they're saturated with Ghyran.

Their ability to act as leylines may be based on this. Ghyran is attracted to the water. Dhar is attracted to the Ghyran, and the other Winds are attracted to the Dhar.
 
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I'm of the opinion that any dark wizard with the capacity to corrupt and destroy a river leyline also has the power to corrupt and destroy a normal river anyway, so it's not actually making them any more vulnerable than they already are.

Besides, one of the proposed methods of transmission was through the air, and no one seemed worried about a sorcerer corrupting that.
We were worried about air transimission leylines being easy to distrub. It's just that air leylines are so hilariously unstable that we were talking about them being disturbed by the weather and the phases of the moon. Honestly air leylines are so leaky that they might not be worth the trouble of corrupting.
The rivers of the Empire already have magic flowing through them.

The elemental association of Ghyran is water, just as Aqshy is fire, so Ghyran is attracted to and is absorbed by water, so when it rains the raindrops absorb ambient Ghyran and carry it to the ground, where it flows down into the rivers along with the water it's 'dissolved' into.
I think people are mostly worried about adding Dhar into the mix. I think if river leylines work anything like normal leylines we would have Dhar packets surrounded by winds, which would ideally insulate the water from the bad juju, but I do worry a bit about what happens if those leylines are tampered with.
 
I'm of the opinion that any dark wizard with the capacity to corrupt and destroy a river leyline also has the power to corrupt and destroy a normal river anyway, so it's not actually making them any more vulnerable than they already are.

Besides, one of the proposed methods of transmission was through the air, and no one seemed worried about a sorcerer corrupting that.

Okay, firstly we have no examples of someone corrupting an Air based Leyline, and I'm not convinced it's impossible.

Second I can't think of a river corrupted anywhere near as badly as the Mortis, the one river we know did for a fact have a Leyline.

The corruption of a Riverine Leyline destroyed possibly the greatest human civilization of all time.

Now admittedly that did take Nagash to pull off, and I think Rivers are worth investigating and testing, but outright dismissing it as a concern is incredibly reckless.
 
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