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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Thorgrim brings hope that the Dwarven race may be able to die with a clean slate and a clear conscience.

I'm about half done with the third item that won and I'm probably going to do the Dwarf Favour bookkeeping after that so I probably will be done within two hours.
 
I'm currently reading through the expedition part of the quest again, and I saw something that speaks against the "Johann as secret magister" theory: He didn't know how to dispel. That's quite unlikely for a magister.

Mind, he could be lying about that (we never checked, and Maximilian didn't want to teach him), but that seems pointless and likely to backfire.
 
BoneyM said:
Thorgrim brings hope that the Dwarven race may be able to die with a clean slate and a clear conscience.

I'm about half done with the third item that won and I'm probably going to do the Dwarf Favour bookkeeping after that so I probably will be done within two hours.
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Ah. So even Thorgrim thinks the dawi are doomed as a race, and that the best they can hope for, is dying after they've had their final vengeance.

Thats...wow. Thats the most depressing version of Thorgrim I've ever heard of. Now I'm SUPER curious as to his thoughts on the successful retaking of Two Of The Peaks.
 
You know that comic that goes around the internet of a person saying "If you press the button, bad thing A will happen but-" and the other person just starts hammering the button and the first person says "DUDE!"

The button is labelled 'if you press this button 1% of the Dwarven race will die but a Grudge will be avenged' and Thorgrim Grudgebearer's claim to fame is how fucking good he is at hammering the living shit out of that button.
 
BoneyM said:
You know that comic that goes around the internet of a person saying "If you press the button, bad thing A will happen but-" and the other person just starts hammering the button and the first person says "DUDE!"

The button is labelled 'if you press this button 1% of the Dwarven race will die but a Grudge will be avenged' and Thorgrim Grudgebearer's claim to fame is how fucking good he is at hammering the living shit out of that button.
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That's...disturbing.
 
BoneyM said:
You know that comic that goes around the internet of a person saying "If you press the button, bad thing A will happen but-" and the other person just starts hammering the button and the first person says "DUDE!"

The button is labelled 'if you press this button 1% of the Dwarven race will die but a Grudge will be avenged' and Thorgrim Grudgebearer's claim to fame is how fucking good he is at hammering the living shit out of that button.
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... we are getting him killed to save the dwarves eventually, right?
 
BoneyM said:
You know that comic that goes around the internet of a person saying "If you press the button, bad thing A will happen but-" and the other person just starts hammering the button and the first person says "DUDE!"

The button is labelled 'if you press this button 1% of the Dwarven race will die but a Grudge will be avenged' and Thorgrim Grudgebearer's claim to fame is how fucking good he is at hammering the living shit out of that button.
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That is depressing as fuck and I hate myself for laughing like I did.
 
BoneyM said:
You know that comic that goes around the internet of a person saying "If you press the button, bad thing A will happen but-" and the other person just starts hammering the button and the first person says "DUDE!"

The button is labelled 'if you press this button 1% of the Dwarven race will die but a Grudge will be avenged' and Thorgrim Grudgebearer's claim to fame is how fucking good he is at hammering the living shit out of that button.
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He's just not met Mathilde yet.

Thorgrim, blustering: "Wiping out the Crooked Moon will avenge a thousand Grudges, worth every Dawi life spent to strike the book clean!!"
Mathilde, reentering the chamber: "... I may have some news..."
 
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Now that is just depressing as shit.

Nice to see the Empire doesn't have a monopoly on dysfunctional rulers in this timeline.
 
veekie said:
With regards to what gods we might find here:
-The Ulricans are Ulricans of course.
-The Adventurers and Mercenaries are going to be Ranald inclined.
-The camp followers probably has the usual mix of Shallya, Taal and Rhya common all over, and so would their dependents.
-Morr will definitely see presence as a secondary focus, anyone as regularly close to death as adventurers are would. Seeing a Garden set up here wouldn't take long.
-And theres probably a couple of Verenan historians showing up eventually. Doubt many would though.
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Clio for historians (local goddess) and Gaffey for buildings (halfling god). Also Tarhveg (archers) and Solkan (vengeance)
 
I never thought of him that way. He always seemed wise in being able to look past grudges like with the Empire for Greater cooperation and even the elves, and realized that forting behind their walls and holds would not help them, only lead to a slow, painful death.

Man...
 
I would like to announce, cause I don't know if it's been announced yet, but Skarsnik was in OTL the character with the most Grudges against him in the Dammaz Kron, followed closely by Caledor II
 
So for all that he has reclaimed holds and outposts and clan homes, even if nothing uber major like a big name Karak, he's been a net loss for the Karaz Ankor? That is just sad.
 
Zaratustra said:
I think the biggest selling point of the axe at this point is that if we provide the right wood the shaft can be our magic staff, but we also have to consider that runes are extremely finicky things to make so we can't discount the possibility an axe would have better runes.
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We have WoG that there will be no interference.
Alectai said:
The problem is that Belegar doesn't have the expertise to get a tower done up to the standards we need, and he needs to spend his resources and favors to solidify his position here. By leaning on our own reputation and the money we alternately earned and stole our way to, we can make sure it gets done right, without costing the new boss a fortune that wasn't already spent.

Since it's all external expertise either way.
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So, your argument is that a Dwarven King, and the thousands upon thousands of dwarves in K8P, lack experience in masonry? That he needs to spend favor to commission dwarves?

You better have ironclad WoG on that buddy, because that's absurd.

To say nothing of thinking Belegar would feel the expense. He is likely cruising on eight digits right now.

A single wizard's tower, no matter how built up, is little more than a rounding error on the monthly budget.

Or how, the higher our reputation and the least onerous the task, the less favor it costs. Do you think Mathilde can't just hire the new Mason Ckan herself, at this point? We can pay just fine in gold.

Not that Belegar wouldn't see the blindingly obvious use in having his chief wizard and spy having a secure lab and office.
 
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Luckily for potions having some unwanted effects the Seed of Regrowth should take care of the vast majority of them :D
 
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