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(Peripherally related, capitalizing in fantasy is tricky and I hate how inconsistent I've been with it. I've flip-flopped on what rule of thumb to use a bunch of times, early in the quest I didn't capitalize words like 'dwarf' and 'elf' because the word 'human' isn't generally capitalized, then I started capitalizing anything that doesn't exist in the real world, and now I'm going with 'upper case for sapients, lower case for everything else, and also for humans because that word looks weird to me if I capitalize it'. I also don't capitalize 'greenskin', which seems like the right call most of the time except when I have to refer to them and some other race in the same sentence - like the phrase 'Skaven and greenskins'. Ideally I should have just picked a rule and stuck with it, but I didn't notice I'd changed the first time until I'd written way too much with the newer rule for it to be reasonable to go back and edit the capitalizations. Hopefully I'm the only person this inconsistency is bugging the hell out of.)
I didn't until someone pointed it out.
If we dive into my other teenage obsession, under Vampire: the Masquerade rules, a Vampire feeding someone their blood without draining them first doesn't make them a Vampire, it makes them into a biddable servant with minorly improved attributes. Just to confuse matters even further, the term for someone who has been changed in this way is 'ghoul'.
Well, now I feel a bit torn. I definitly want a Boney VtM quest, but the existence of such implies that other quests aren't happening, and that's sad.
 
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She smiles. "I meant you." Ah. "Many locals believe that like the Countess' Chaplain, you never left Sylvania after the Drakenhof campaign, and spent years carving a bloody swathe of vengeance across the land. That you slew the Singing King, liberated Nachthafen, purged Teufelheim, saved the Grand Countess from assassins, and laid curses upon the Lahmians of Mikalsdorf and Waldenhof."
I'm brought to mind of the "curses now that we know how they work" posts you see around sometimes* Because it seems to me like stealing a load of of a Vampire's best magic tools and dumping them into a volcano, would, in fact, constitute a particularly effective and subtle sort of curse. To onlookers especially. Particularly so if said Vampire kept their need of such tools secret.

*A: This looks like something where if you drink the water; you'll be cursed by the fae,
B: well, curses is basically what they used to call dysentery and bacterial infection, yeah.
 
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Great update, can't comment too much because I'm currently ill. Everyone has made good arguments for these, so...

[X] Raise
[X] Cheat
 
The fact that they actually might have gone and asked Ranald (who, if innocent, will almost certainly have pretended to be guilty), makes me think that this is more than just an excuse.
Afawk, they didn't ask Ranald. What's more likely, that Ranald did something absolutely unheard of, or that a race of obscenely proud people refuse to recognise that someone from a race of children can surpass them?
 
Wait! Can Celestials enchant something to always point to closest Vampire? Because holy shit witch hunters would knocking down collage doors to get some of that. Them and eveyrbody else. I mean having a handy and discreet way to check nobles for being a vampire is so useful.

Edit; IT probably doesn't work like that. Spell says item and LM didn't use it to check for vampires. I will commit sudoku for this missunderstanding.
 
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Afawk, they didn't ask Ranald. What's more likely, that Ranald did something absolutely unheard of, or that a race of obscenely proud people refuse to recognise that someone from a race of children can surpass them?

The possibility has also been mentioned that souls just swap species during reincarnation at least semi-regularly, meaning there's no such thing as a 'dwarven soul' and while Mathilde may have been a dwarf in a previous life, that's not really that uncommon or specific to her. Which is another possibility that dwarves aren't gonna be happy even thinking about.
 
The possibility has also been mentioned that souls just swap species during reincarnation at least semi-regularly, meaning there's no such thing as a 'dwarven soul' and while Mathilde may have been a dwarf in a previous life, that's not really that uncommon or specific to her. Which is another possibility that dwarves aren't gonna be happy even thinking about.
Afawk, souls from dwarfs go to the Glittering Realms and stay there. I'm not sure there's even a reincarnation, everyone seems to think that souls go to the realms of the various death gods.
 
My understanding of the situation is that they came up with the excuse to soothe their egos, and then they asked Ranald, and He gave them signs that let them validate their beliefs because it was funny to Him.
 
Afawk, souls from dwarfs go to the Glittering Realms and stay there. I'm not sure there's even a reincarnation, everyone seems to think that souls go to the realms of the various death gods.
Souls that recieve Gazul's rites go to the halls of their ancestors, souls that don't reincarnate.

At least according to Gunnars.
 
Wait! Can Celestials enchant something to always point to closest Vampire? Because holy shit witch hunters would knocking down collage doors to get some of that. Them and eveyrbody else. I mean having a handy and discreet way to check nobles for being a vampire is so useful.

No. To cast it on something, you need to have a very thorough understanding of what that thing is. This is easy if the thing is something like 'book' or 'sword', tricky when it comes to animals, and philosophically Sisyphean if you start trying to aim it at sapient species. 'Featherless biped' or 'miserable pile of secrets' doesn't cut it.

In case it's a typo rather than an intentional pun, beachhead.

It's a Dwarfism. They're not big on naval invasions, but they are big on tunnelling.
 
Crypt Horrors is what they mean by 'ghoul vampire'. Vampires might avoid acknowledging that ghoul vampires are vampires, but that seems like pure snobbery to me, rather than there being any real reason why a ghoul that's fed a vampire's blood and develops supernatural strength and a thirst for more blood isn't a vampire. Also the name 'Crypt Horror' doesn't feel right to be used in-universe, it's too vague a term for something very specific.

(Peripherally related, capitalizing in fantasy is tricky and I hate how inconsistent I've been with it. I've flip-flopped on what rule of thumb to use a bunch of times, early in the quest I didn't capitalize words like 'dwarf' and 'elf' because the word 'human' isn't generally capitalized, then I started capitalizing anything that doesn't exist in the real world, and now I'm going with 'upper case for sapients, lower case for everything else, and also for humans because that word looks weird to me if I capitalize it'. I also don't capitalize 'greenskin', which seems like the right call most of the time except when I have to refer to them and some other race in the same sentence - like the phrase 'Skaven and greenskins'. Ideally I should have just picked a rule and stuck with it, but I didn't notice I'd changed the first time until I'd written way too much with the newer rule for it to be reasonable to go back and edit the capitalizations. Hopefully I'm the only person this inconsistency is bugging the hell out of.)
At the risk of repeating a point due to not seeing a reply post. A Crypt Horror isn't drained of all non-vampiric blood before being fed vampire blood like is done in the blood kiss. So they are a bit more like World of Darkness Ghouls in that they are living people fed vampire blood while still alive rather than people killed (or almost killed in Warhammers case) and then turned into a vampire. So I can see both sides of the in-universe argument on whether they count as vampires or only new Strigoi who where ghouls before being given the blood kiss count as "ghoul vampires".
 
[X] Raise
[X] Hold

I personally think 'Hold' is the way to go, focusing on grabbing the loot while keeping themselves safe. I take a Belebro view of things, and think Dwarven lives are worth more than a dead vampire and a settled grudge.

But I still prefer 'Raise' to 'Cheat', which feels like it cedes the initiative, puts Mathilde out in front to potentially be counter-ambushed by a bad roll, and doesn't take best advantage of the lucky rolls we assembled here. Maybe Alkharad noticing us was some sort of Necrarch trick, and we have less to be worried about against a Strigoi target, but I wouldn't put money on it. Nachthafen was a cool but scary sequence of events.
 
At the risk of repeating a point due to not seeing a reply post. A Crypt Horror isn't drained of all non-vampiric blood before being fed vampire blood like is done in the blood kiss. So they are a bit more like World of Darkness Ghouls in that they are living people fed vampire blood while still alive rather than people killed (or almost killed in Warhammers case) and then turned into a vampire. So I can see both sides of the in-universe argument on whether they count as vampires or only new Strigoi who where ghouls before being given the blood kiss count as "ghoul vampires".
If I remember correctly Neferata was turning Khalida by biting her tongue and kissing Khalida. I don't think Neferata had the opportunity to... drain all of Khalida's blood.
 
If I remember correctly Neferata was turning Khalida by biting her tongue and kissing Khalida. I don't think Neferata had the opportunity to... drain all of Khalida's blood.
Though, we also don't know if the end result would have been a true Vampire or some kind of worse Thrall.

Also, think it's worth noting that Vampires that drank Neferata's elixir seem to have more potent blood than their spawn do- it could be that Neferata wouldn't have needed to drain someone to turn them completely.
 
If I remember correctly Neferata was turning Khalida by biting her tongue and kissing Khalida. I don't think Neferata had the opportunity to... drain all of Khalida's blood.
There is an incredibly crass joke in here, but I'm going to leave it unsaid because imagination is greater then any words I could write 🤣
 
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