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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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...That is a good point actually, Mathilde has gone hard on non-human diplo, going so far as to be asked for advice from the Emperor's Diplo Counsler. Fair enough, though I do think my point stands, even if I might consider swapping Regimand and Mathilde's position. Then again, alot of Mathilde's non-human research is into how to kill something not elf (Well, most elves) and not dwarf... Trade offs I suppose... Isn't Eike supposed to die via 'Hooves'(probably beastman) or was that another girl we talked to? Just a thought I had
@Boney - If Mathilde will choose to mentor Eike, she will need to spend time on it. It we want Mathilde to be at least as close to Eike as Reginald was to Mathilde - will we need to spent actions on it? If so, could You give estimates on how much?
I would like to know how big of commitment it is in regard of Mathilde already too-busy shedule.
I would like to know how big of commitment it is in regard of Mathilde already too-busy shedule.
I asked this way back when her College came up and the answer was that Eike would not take up AP, but could be assigned to actions which she might help or hinder... though that was not set in stone as far as I recall.
Maybe two AP total over the next six years, if even that. The point of Apprentices is they don't learn by sitting down in a classroom, they learn by following you around to the jobs you'd be doing anyway, watching what you do, and making themselves useful.
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Eike's dooming was to "beware the cloven hoof". I should point out that doomings are not literal. There's a short story in one of the RPG books (I forget which one) about a guy who's dooming is about the dangers of a knife. He freaks out and moves to a cabin in the woods where there are no blades at all. One day a trader stops at the cabin looking for a place to rest, and the guy sees the trader has a knife on him and kills the trader out of fear. He's then caught and hung for murder. The moral of the story is that a knife did ruin his life—but not by stabbing, but by turning him into a paranoid hermit.
Mathilde's is even less literal—"When abandoned and alone, Morr shalt befriend thee". After she was abandoned by her family, Mathilde adopted a kitten called Morr.
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She could also be into a lot of other people, and just pocked to oogle men today. No, what it tells me, is that she is into physical strength or perhaps the physice that comes with it. If she gets promoted while on the project, I think she might get on just great with Max
She is certainly a bit more powerful than I thought. I figured she was old [mortal scale] not old [nation scale].
I am suddenly very glad our Ice Witch is a not interested in posturing.
I find it interesting that they don't teach reading. Implies a very strong mono focus on just their lore, with very little scholarly teachings on the side.
Guess the practicalities of a burning country of constant crisis really got to them. Gotta get more Ice Witches out fast nd faster.
I wonder what that oath is about. Seems strange to put such a strain on your students.
Funny to think of the terrifying defensive forest as cute little doggos. Accurate, especially considering how scary dogs can be, but funny.
I wonder if that weakens him here.
In this case, I agree with him. "Realpolitics" is an excuse made up by those that can't live with their own decisions. Either you can justify what you have done, and bear the price it cost, or you can not, throwing fancy words up as smokescreens to pretend that all those that would call your actions into question just don't perceive "the real world" can only lead to deluding oneself.
And maybe even afterwards, if Omegahugger rises in his long prophecied return.
I find it interesting how much she trusts him. Is it simply trust rewarding trust, or does the coin perhaps work both ways…
Similar, yet forever at odds? Estranged siblings, or a shattered old relationship (of any flavor) perhaps.
Only because you don't see the 5 others.
And I don't think he would, if we ask for her. He isn't a certain light flinging fool, he doesn't spite his best people for questionable gain.
I think the most obvious answer is the right one. She has promisingly high intreague and loves to learn, she would for his job quite well.
Emulating the Ancient Widow's presumed lack of sex life, supposedly.
I suppose we shouldn't take Eike with us when we get around to reclaiming Waystones from Beastmen.
I think the coin does work both ways, but not in any magical way. A show of trust from someone can make you feel like you can trust them in turn. Besides, one of Ranald's strictures is about trusting your coreligionists, and while Aksel isn't quite that he's close.
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Or maybe an Ice witch ritual that requires a Maiden/Mother/Crone trio to cast.
Having maidens handy could be useful for Mystical reasons.
The Widow had to have been married at some point, right? Like, I get that the Ice Maidens take the vow because they are, you know, maidens, and it also lets them be drawn in tighter into the coven rather than mucking about with pretty outsiders in haystacks, but if they are imitating the Widow I would have thought the abstinence would come later in life? Then again, maybe to attune to Ice magic you need to attune to the Widow's current mindset, rather than imitate her prior life stages.
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Man I remember this one, always found it funny, hilarious even, that Mathilde did that and walked around like she beat death iir what Boney said bout her attitude. It still makes me laugh when I read it.
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It's less who she chooses to ogle and more her phrasing. She specifically highlights Laurelorn as the "Land of Beautiful Men", not the "Land of Beautiful People" or "Land of Beautiful Men and Women" if she was being less inclusive. I don't typically assume characters are heterosexual unless they clearly indicate that they are, but this is the closest to outright confirmation of a character's sexuality that I've seen in DL. Not that she can't figure out that she likes people other than men later on or something, but I think it's safe to say she likes men for the moment.She could also be into a lot of other people, and just pocked to oogle men today. No, what it tells me, is that she is into physical strength or perhaps the physice that comes with it. If she gets promoted while on the project, I think she might get on just great with Max
I'd like to think that in Warhammer you aren't going to be grappling with internalised homophobia blocking your ability to explore your sexuality and that you'd be more likely to know who you are as an adult as a result.
Boney talked about this briefly:
Abstinence is an easier situation than telling your initiates to marry someone than experience losing them to understand what it's like to be a Widow.
I can attest that it's incredibly easy to trust someone if you know that they trust you. It's incredibly easy to go quid pro quo with someone, which is why it's so much easier to reveal things to a person who has revealed a lot to you. Mathilde is in a huge advantage here, with him being much more open than she is, so she can afford to let things like her being a Ranaldite out.
I'm pretty sure it does. Different scenarios weaken different Wizards, like not having the requisite Winds or situation to enchance the casting. Ghyran grows weaker in Winter for example. We're pretty lucky in that Ulgu is almost always present in usable quantities outside mono-wind environments. Although I suspect that aside from sunset and sunrise, Eclipses are moments of power for Ulgu Wizards thanks the Umbra/Penumbra from the celestial bodies.
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Maybe we will be able to combine learning the cloak activity spell with some sort of teaching action.
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Flight school meme subversion of how Mathilde Learns a spell, with the preconditions not being impossible to achieve, so Eike actually tries?
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Also, now that they're not looking over my shoulder, I can talk a little about it. It was genuinely hilarious having to explain Buridan's Ass, which they got stuck on pretty hard. Their reaction was a very simple "why can't you guys just talk like normal people", which I find ironic because they speak like a Zoomer and laugh at stretched out monkey pictures.
Their name is Raven (Internet Alias and Non-Binary name). They're the person that was happy to know Cython is in this quest. I've been trying to get them to read this quest for the longest time, and they're trying to get me to read a Danganronpa Fanfiction in return. The exchange is set to start... sometime. I thought you might like to know that we talk a lot about your Quest even if they never read it.
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I have an idea.
So, in WFRP 2e: Realms of Sorcery, some wizards (including grey wizards) can gather up a bunch of materials and use it to create a familiar, and you can make familiars with some pretty wild designs, like a large snake with two arms and a jackal skull for a head. However, in WFRP 4e: Winds of Magic, you don't strictly need materials, and the forms that familiars can take can get even wilder.
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And your musing on whether our shadow's got a will of its own or acting on Mathilde's subconscious reminded me of stuff from pages 34, 181, and 182:
There's a remarkable amount of similarity between our shadow and Winds of Magic's familiars. Given it's just a hop, skip, and a jump away from being the same thing, my idea is this: maybe we can make our shadow into a proper familiar? Divided Loyalties uses Realms of Sorcery's system of familiars, but I actually think RoS can support this idea.
Realms of Sorcery page 186 explicitly says you can have more than one familiar, loads in fact. The same page also gives us the Bind method of getting a familiar, which is what we used for Wolf: get an existing creature and spend some time forming an aethyric bond with it. The only hitch in the plan is that the table provided for Binding is animal-exclusive, but if Boney waives that restriction, I think we're golden.
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@Boney, apologies if it was asked before, but if we'll take Eike on as an apprentice, is there a possibility of granting her nobility by making her the heir to Mathilde's estate? Nobility title is a generally good thing, increasing number of opportunities one has in life, and for some things in some places and circles, e.g. in Bretonnia, it's hard to get by without it.
Or would Mathilde for some reason won't think of it or won't do that? Or is her title not inheritable?
@Boney, apologies if it was asked before, but if we'll take Eike on as an apprentice, is there a possibility of granting her nobility by making her the heir to Mathilde's estate? Nobility title is a generally good thing, increasing number of opportunities one has in life, and for some things in some places and circles, e.g. in Bretonnia, it's hard to get by without it.
Or would Mathilde for some reason won't think of it or won't do that? Or is her title not inheritable?
I've got zoomer brothers so I know the feeling, the ways of people that grew up with the digital hellscape are so strange. It always takes me so offguard to hear about people discussing the quest outside of the internet, I'm so used to thinking of the internet as a different world that I never expect my contributions to it to leak out into the 'real' one.
Mathilde could designate Eike as her heir, but being heir to a Knighthood doesn't formally make one a noble until they inherit, you need a loftier title for nobility to 'trickle down' like that.
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