That does seem to be the case, thought with the caveat I think that a soul cannot exist intact outside a body. I think that might hint at some qualitative difference that Mathide cannot see (yet).
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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That does seem to be the case, thought with the caveat I think that a soul cannot exist intact outside a body. I think that might hint at some qualitative difference that Mathide cannot see (yet).
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I'd counter that neither gods not spirits can exist in this world without a body either- they are five in the warp, but to be in the world they have to work through a priest or incarnate themselves.
Which is a bit weak in terms of "must have body", yes, but I'd point to ghosts and wraiths to indicate that souls don't really need bodies in order to exist either.
Ghosts are why I said intact, as they are while free floating kind of tattered and Dhar-y at the best of times.
That said the fact that some ghosts are able to possess a body and just pick up as living beings (I think that is one of the things you can roll as a 'blessing of the Dark Gods' in the RPG) is an indication that some of them might actually be quite complete.
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WFRP 4e: Archives of the Empire, page 78
WFRP 4e, page 101, the Bawd career
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And yet so many people I know complain about not being able to take a halfling crime boss seriously...
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I don't think Haffen is meant to be a German-rooted word.
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Haffen is a pun. The Halfling language in 4th Edition is Haffenaff, a riff on "Half n Half".
Here's the tidbit from Archives of the Empire Volume 1 4E page 45 in regards to Haffenaff:
Here's the tidbit from Archives of the Empire Volume 1 4E page 45 in regards to Haffenaff:
Kislev treats spirits as inherently worthy of respect, and has Hag Witches to mediate those relationships. The Empire only respects confirmed spirits if they've been incorporated into the hierarchy of a Major God, usually Taal or Rhya or Manaan, and has suppressed all its secular spirit wranglers.
So I started reading this quest about four-ish days ago, and I've quite enjoyed it. There are a few minor nitpicks that I have with it, but only a few questions. Did Mathilde ever exam the golden nut she bought, or is it just sitting in a chest somewhere? What are the odds that one or more of Mathilde's nieces or nephews could develop magic?
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The Ghyran nut is still in a chest somewhere. Concerning Mat's family we don't know. Magic probably has a genetic basis, because children of Jade College members have a higher chance of having magical children, but there's certainly environmental factors at work too and we don't know which ones. Maybe it's what the child eat, or getting exposed to Morrslieb for 2 secondes, or whatever.
For my personal curiosity, what would those nitpicks be?🙃
Small stuff mostly, like how often there's rolls for things that should be pretty basic. Or how at one point people decided to try and romance Anton after convincing him to try and marry for love after he jokingly asked Mathilde to marry him. And the eventual pairing of Mathilde and Panoramia, rather then Johanne or the dragon; as while Panoramia has more of a character now, around the time the relationship votes where being cast, Johanne felt and still feels like more of character.
Please note that what I said is mainly personal opinion, and I still enjoy this quest.
@Boney is there anything in Mathilde's books on Loec that indicates a connection to luck? And has she learned of Loec's (and Isha's) part in the fate of the Ellinilli?
Does Mathilde know anything about House Orodreth, besides their patron Goddess? Speaking of which, how much does Mathilde know about Lileath?
Does Mathilde know anything about House Orodreth, besides their patron Goddess? Speaking of which, how much does Mathilde know about Lileath?
I for one, have always been pro Anton, that's not me flip flopping, that's me losing twice.
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So more nitpicks with the hivemind's voting behavior than anything else? Well, no one can solely be held accountable for that. I usually use "nitpicks" as meaning small changes I'd make to a story/work of art. But changing what players voted isn't really in the spirit of things.
As for preferences in the style of "if only that vote had gone differently", I'm pretty sure most of us participants here have those. We express them from time to time, but mostly try to keep it down if we can because fighting about past votes is very unproductive and not pleasant for the people who actually voted for the winning option (and who are in the majority) either. But it's hard some times. I myself am guilty of whining about Faith winning over Truth a while ago.
As for rolls over small stuff, which ones are you thinking about?
Lastly, could it be that you are misremembering the order in which we romanced Anton, got his marriage proposal and told him to marry for love? I don't remember us ever romancing him after we told him to marry for love. But then again, my memory is faulty some times.
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No. Lileath covers fortune in the Elven pantheon.
Yes, it's one of Loec's central myths.
That they're from pre-Sundering Nagarythe.
Not a huge amount. She's the Goddess of the moon that is known as Mannsleib in the Empire, and also of dreams and fortune, and is the wife of Asuryan. She's part of a triumvirate with Isha and Morai-heg, as with Lileath being Goddess of fortune, Isha of the natural order and Morai-heg of fate, between the three of them they're supposedly able to achieve perfect foresight. She's said to have little power to intervene in mortal affairs as she poured most of what she had into the creation of three magical artefacts to assist the Elves, but of the three only one remains: the staff used by Teclis.
Hmm... another moon goddess. Might be relevant to that altar whenever we get to it. Could be worth at least getting the books on Lileath next book turn if we are planning to do the altar study.
Actually speaking of that altar I wonder if there any scholars in the city who have an interest in obscure human gods? I mean this is really esoteric stuff, not a lot of people going up to the wastes to steal the altars of Kurgan tribes. More generally maybe even some of our fellow Waystone project members would be interested in study on the side. I mean we would not be getting any time saving like with WebMat, but more eyes on are always good to have.
@Boney is the notion of asking some of our fellow Project members if they are interested in sharing research and of course credit a viable one in principle? I ask because I do not think much of this stuff is very classified and the loss of CF from collaboration does not trouble me that much, we are not really using it that much.
Actually speaking of that altar I wonder if there any scholars in the city who have an interest in obscure human gods? I mean this is really esoteric stuff, not a lot of people going up to the wastes to steal the altars of Kurgan tribes. More generally maybe even some of our fellow Waystone project members would be interested in study on the side. I mean we would not be getting any time saving like with WebMat, but more eyes on are always good to have.
@Boney is the notion of asking some of our fellow Project members if they are interested in sharing research and of course credit a viable one in principle? I ask because I do not think much of this stuff is very classified and the loss of CF from collaboration does not trouble me that much, we are not really using it that much.
Assuming you mean asking individual members about individual projects about which they have relevant interest and expertise, yes.
Or something related to it. The concept of a trio of Goddesses with some connection to fate is very widespread in European mythology.
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It seems more like a reference to the Hecate sisters trope, in which the greek goddesses of the moon form a triad with Artemis as the maiden, Selene as the mother and Hecate as the crone.
That is what I meant yeah.
If you go back really far enough, early versions of Persephone also embrace the trio-goddess of fate and death thing—Kore (The Maiden), Despoina (The Mistress), and Persephone, Dread Queen of the Underworld. This probably arose due to a belief that if you spoke the Dread Queen's name, she'd come for you and take you to the underworld, so people would instead refer to her as the "Maiden" or the "Mistress" out of a combination of respect and fear.
(Note: "Mistress" as in "Mistress of the House of the Dead", not "Mistress" as in "Concubine". It's the feminine form of "Despotes" aka "Despot")
But yeah, Triple Deities, especially those concerned with fate, destiny and death, are surprisingly common in European mythology. Evidence of some sort of precursor religion, or evidence that Humans just really really like the number three? We'll probably never know.
(Note: "Mistress" as in "Mistress of the House of the Dead", not "Mistress" as in "Concubine". It's the feminine form of "Despotes" aka "Despot")
But yeah, Triple Deities, especially those concerned with fate, destiny and death, are surprisingly common in European mythology. Evidence of some sort of precursor religion, or evidence that Humans just really really like the number three? We'll probably never know.
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You can find it in Celtic, Baltic, and Slavic mythology too, which combined with Norse and Greco-Roman gives you most of Europe.