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[X] Karak Vlag about what kinds of books they have, and also take the time to check in on them in general
[X] Cult of Verena about the possibility of entering into an agreement with our library
[X] Middenland about how the Eonir-Ulric partnership is going
[X] Stirland about the state of the war and who has become Markgräfin
[X] Karaz-a-Karak about the state of the Skull River investigation
 
[X] Gunnars about the emergency Conclave that declared us a "Dwarf"
[X] Carcassonne/Bretonnia to inquire about their willingness to join the waystone project
[X] Introduce the EIC to Kislev and Karak Vlag
[X] Okri: The new Loremaster of Karak Eight Peaks is Okri Drakkisson of Clan Bronzebeard, formerly of Karak Norn. Meet your replacement and gauge what kind of person he is.
[X] Give a prayer of thanks to Ranald, stumble into the crowd without looking and see where fortune brings you.
 
The Karak Vlag library vote continues to be a huge mess. Eight votes divided among four different phrasings. I'm changing my vote to the most voted on variant, since getting all votes counted together is probably more important then finding the perfect wording for the option.

EDIT: and now I've been convinced to change back
[X] Check in on how Karak Vlag is managing and inquire about sharing books on magic and supernatural phenomena with our library.

[X] Cult of Verena about the possibility of entering into an agreement with our library
[X] Middenland about how the Eonir-Ulric partnership is going
[X] Stirland about the state of the war and who has become Markgräfin
[X] Karaz-a-Karak about the state of the Skull River investigation
 
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[X] Cult of Verena about the possibility of entering into an agreement with our library

I don't have divided loyalyties- books are my one true alliegiance.
 
[x] Middenland about how the Eonir-Ulric partnership is going
[x] Give a prayer of thanks to Ranald, stumble into the crowd without looking and see where fortune brings you.
[x] The Damsels to inquire about their willingness to join the Waystone Project
[x] Gunnars about the emergency Conclave that declared us a "Dwarf"
[X] Okri: The new Loremaster of Karak Eight Peaks is Okri Drakkisson of Clan Bronzebeard, formerly of Karak Norn. Meet your replacement and gauge what kind of person he is.
 
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[X] Carcassonne/Bretonnia to inquire about their willingness to join the waystone project
[X] Gunnars about the emergency Conclave that declared us a "Dwarf"
[X] House Fooger, for their view on the canal project and Marienburg situation
[X] The Barak Varr book resellers and Carcassonne to see if the former can expand operations to the duchy
[X] Karaz-a-Karak about the state of the Skull River investigation
[X] Inquire about a possible diplomatic connection to the Asrai of Athel Loren
 
[X] Follow up on the newfound partnership between the Light Order and the Cult of Gazul
[X] Carcassonne/Bretonnia to inquire about their willingness to join the waystone project
[X] Gunnars about the emergency Conclave that declared us a "Dwarf"
[x] The Damsels to inquire about their willingness to join the Waystone Project
 
I know it doesn't fit the thrust of the vote being about negotiations, but I kind of want to seek out Belegar. For him, this must be a significant event beyond what others feel about the marriage. Nothing says "this place is home" like seeing two of your friends who have been working under you since the Expedition marrying each other to signal a new generation in Karak Eight Peaks.
 
[X] Cult of Verena about the possibility of entering into an agreement with our library
[X] Carcassonne/Bretonnia to inquire about their willingness to join the waystone project
 
It's always weird to me when I read Dynasty of Dynamic Alcoholism and then move to a different WHF Quest where they tie with Hochland for 'basically a non-entity' status.

I'd be interested in Tilean or Myrmidian contacts, though trying to figure out what it would take to get Damsel expertise on the Waystones would also be nice.
 
[X] Gunnars about the emergency Conclave that declared us a "Dwarf"
[X] Carcassonne/Bretonnia to inquire about their willingness to join the waystone project
[X] Introduce the EIC to Kislev and Karak Vlag
[X] Okri: The new Loremaster of Karak Eight Peaks is Okri Drakkisson of Clan Bronzebeard, formerly of Karak Norn. Meet your replacement and gauge what kind of person he is.
[X] Give a prayer of thanks to Ranald, stumble into the crowd without looking and see where fortune brings you.
 
"When someone is fitted with suppressors, if it's their decision then it's their decision, and if it's something their parents have forced on them then they can still remove them and come to the Colleges and be accepted. But this is a decision that's normally being made when someone has first channelled and shaped magic. As young as Mandred is, as undeveloped as his magical ability is, fitting him with suppressors would likely completely smother any ability he will ever have to see and touch magic. And I couldn't recommend that for anyone. If I was given a choice between keeping my eyes and keeping my magic I wouldn't even hesitate to choose magic.

"And in all honesty, if he never becomes Emperor, so what? Plenty of people never become Emperor. I'm sure Mandred will grow up to be a wonderful leader, but the Empire would do just fine under Todbringer or Hertwig or Van Hal. Grand Prince Mandred will still have plenty of power and responsibility, and you're right that as a Wizard he could do so much good for the Colleges and for Wizards. In the minds of the masses he could do more simply by existing than people like me could do in a century of good deeds, and he could lay down legal protections that will stop us from being a single document away from being besieged by the Witch Hunters once more.

"You're looking at this as a gamble and then beating yourself up for seeing it as a gamble, but the decisions that led to this have already been made and it's too late to start second-guessing them. The only way to walk away from this hand is to abandon your son. If you don't, then it's your duty as his mother to accept who he is and help him grow into a good person."
Thinking about it, have we ever seen Mathilde be so open about her views with anyone, let alone a non-Wizard? Like, we knew that these are her views and I definitely don't think she was actively hiding them, but this bluntness and complete openness is not usual for her. Even when she's given advise to friends before (Belegar, Ducklings and Panoramia come to mind) she usually used facts, metaphors or examples. For me this shows just how important this situation was to her. It might genuinely have shook loose something deep inside her in that moment.
Mathilde places a lot of value in the wonders of magic, and I can't blame her. It's what pulled her out of what was promised to be a miserable and to her viewpoint, pointless life. Magic is what allowed her to jump up in station and become so powerful and capable of changing the world to a better place. Mandred is in a different situation, being able to make those changes even without magic, but he would still miss out on the wonders of altering the world with his mind and seeing the beautiful colors of the Aethyr, allowing him to unravel the secrets that others can't see. It would be betraying everything Mathilde stands for if she decided to remove that potential from a child who can't make the decision for themselves.
I do hope that his Windsight doesn't end up like the one Barbitus had though. Or another unpleasant one like proprioception.
Altering your viewpoint of the world isn't easy, but it looks like Heidi isn't beating herself up for viewing this as a gamble anymore, which is good.
She's also grown to appreciate or at least respect her husband, no matter the reasons she actually married him.
I also find it interesting that for such a straightforward, no nonsense grounded society, Dwarven culture has a great deal of unspoken understandings and subtlities that are dense and impenetrable to someone from the outside.
I think a big part of the subtleties are about taking the rigid, straight-forward and "obviously correct" traditions and altering them into something that's actually livable without sacrificing emotional health too much. At the same time that very act nags at their conscience, until the subtle workarounds are themselves old traditions they can settle on and enjoy.

Dwarves are such precious people. I really hope we made a lasting difference in their long term trajectory.

A bit wasteful of the jewels but I suppose he has to make a point.
How are they wasteful? What good are jewels for, other than ornament? And in this case they are ornaments on a useful tool that Edda might well use in public often enough.

I am kind of curious what is wrong with Klinkarhun numerals. The Dwarves having a crap numerical system for math is really not what I expected.
[X] The Cult of Myrmidia about whether Dwarven War Yodelling would fall under Myrmidia's authority

I am curious.
I don't remember if you already voted before this. So I'll remind you that only your latest post with any votes in it counts.
Far off in Laurelorn, Johann sneezes.
You don't think he came along to the wedding? So many people that he would personally know. Like the Ducklings for instance. And the Karag Nar notables. And maybe a few of his friends from the Cult of Grungni and the Order of the Pick. Also I think he still lives in Karag Nar, where his Wolfrats feel at home and can run around with Wolf, Skufit and the Halfling children.


And now my mind is thinking how we never visited Max or Johann in their own homes.
We went on Zeroth Dates with all six options. Date 0 with Roswita was helping her prep an anti-Vampire paper for presentation and then attending the presentation itself. It was cute nerdy fun, but didn't seem to grab people.
Thanks. I remember now.
Pure write-in votes always stress me out, so I can only imagine how hard they are to QM. I wish Boney luck in not going insane from the tally when all is said and done.
Especially since this time there might be quite a few edge cases where multiple people vote to approach the same faction, but want just slightly different things from them.
 
I know it doesn't fit the thrust of the vote being about negotiations, but I kind of want to seek out Belegar. For him, this must be a significant event beyond what others feel about the marriage. Nothing says "this place is home" like seeing two of your friends who have been working under you since the Expedition marrying each other to signal a new generation in Karak Eight Peaks.

Ooh, that's a good shout. Something like

[] Belegar to reflect upon the achievements and future of Karak Eight Peaks

Perhaps? There might be something more eloquent or specific that people could come up with instead.
 
The Karak Vlag library vote continues to be a huge mess. Eight votes divided among four different phrasings. I'm changing my vote to the most voted on variant, since getting all votes counted together is probably more important then finding the perfect wording for the option.

[X] Karak Vlag about the possibility of entering into an agreement with our library
Without you that option had exactly one vote more than the one with better phrasing and more inclusivity. I can't imagine that the three other voters have a problem with checking up on Karag Vlag in general.
 
[x] Gunnars about the emergency Conclave that declared us a "Dwarf"
[x] Give a prayer of thanks to Ranald, stumble into the crowd without looking and see where fortune brings you.
[x] Cult of Verena about the possibility of entering into an agreement with our library
[x] Sitirland about the state of the war and who has become Markgräfin
 
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How are they wasteful? What good are jewels for, other than ornament? And in this case they are ornaments on a useful tool that Edda might well use in public often enough.
Depends on the jewels. Diamonds have useful industrial properties. I also know there are a number of uses that certain minerals that make jewelry can be used for, but you'd have to ask an expert for the specifics on how Quartz can be useful for glassmaking or abrasives. Also, before the advent of synthetic dyes and the like, jewels were used for dyes and pigments. You know you can look this up on google right?
I am kind of curious what is wrong with Klinkarhun numerals. The Dwarves having a crap numerical system for math is really not what I expected.
This is what Klinkarhun looks like:
It's roman numerals with extra steps. I don't think it needs to be explained why it would suck for counting big numbers.
 
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Without you that option had exactly one vote more than the one with better phrasing and more inclusivity. I can't imagine that the three other voters have a problem with checking up on Karag Vlag in general.
Maybe, but one vote is a pretty big difference when one option has three votes and another has two, and I just want the vote to stop being so split, so voting for the option that has the most votes seems more likely to work than arguing why my preferred choice is better and everyone else should change their vote.

Doesn't seem like it's really working, though. There have been zero changes in those votes except for my own. Maybe if it stays that way I'll switch back, but if the vote doesn't consolidate it won't win so this won't matter anyway.

It's roman numerals with extra steps. I don't think it needs to be explained why it would suck for counting big numbers.
Why, for the love of all that is holy, is there a sign specifically for 144?
 
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Maybe, but one vote is a pretty big difference when one option has three votes and another has two, and I just want the vote to stop being so split, so voting for the option that has the most votes seems more likely to work than arguing why my preferred choice is better and everyone else should change their vote.

Doesn't seem like it's really working, though. There have been zero changes in those votes except for my own. Maybe if it stays that way I'll switch back, but if the vote doesn't consolidate it won't win so this won't matter anyway.
I'm not sure how much experience you have on questing, but that's how all open ended votes turn out. If the thread is the one making the phrasing in a vote with endless possibilities, this is what happens. People will create dozens of different phrasings for the same options, they will vote and then they will leave. Most people are not going to stick around for all the discussion to update their votes, they'll only vote once and then go off to another quest. People like me who only focus on one quest are the minority, most people multitask with at least 2-3 quests, some like Veekie are everywhere on this site. People who haven't caught up usually look at the tally, they get overwhelmed, so they choose whatever appeals to them most and leave.

That's what I did when I didn't have the time to catch up on the discussion in other quests.
 
I'm not sure how much experience you have on questing, but that's how all open ended votes turn out. If the thread is the one making the phrasing in a vote with endless possibilities, this is what happens. People will create dozens of different phrasings for the same options, they will vote and then they will leave. Most people are not going to stick around for all the discussion to update their votes, they'll only vote once and then go off to another quest. People like me who only focus on one quest are the minority, most people multitask with at least 2-3 quests, some like Veekie are everywhere on this site. People who haven't caught up usually look at the tally, they get overwhelmed, so they choose whatever appeals to them most and leave.

That's what I did when I didn't have the time to catch up on the discussion in other quests.
Yeah, that makes sense. Are the votes counted together in some way once the voting is closed, or is Vlag doomed?
 
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