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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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I really want to know if there are morrite/gazhulian rites to burry an honored enemy, Qrech deserves better than being burned.
 
Burned_Cookie said:
I mean, we could ask Qrech how he wants it? Though I can't shake the suspicion it would involve warpstone.
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"Skaven Burial" is an elaborate way to describe being eaten by other Skaven immediately as you die. As Boney has said before:
Boney said:
There's a scene in the novel Headtaker where Sleek Sharpwit, former Warlord of Clan Mors, laments that the Horned Rat prevents the Skaven from developing history and culture.
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At this point, Qretch is probably more ingrained in human and Dwarven culture than Skaven culture, because The Horned Rat specifically designed Skaven society to lack things like burial rituals. I think he might actually want to be buried like a human. Would have to ask him though.
 
Burned_Cookie said:
Reliable? Maybe. Evil? Yes.

Why do they hate them that much anyway. I mean, if they were all in the empire, they'd be someones elses problem? Even if they do think AMAB spellcasters are doomed?
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They don't necessarily hate them, they have a prophecy that says that a male ice mage will end up corrupting all ice magic in Kislev. So they don't take chances with male mages in general. You either stop practicing magic or you get out of Kislev.
 
Swantree said:
He'd not care a whit about where his body ends up I feel, even if he does get a burial I imagine what he really wants is a memorial. Qrech wants to avoid that 2nd death with all he's got after all.
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Memorial is part of the "Burial Ritual" part. How you deal with the body isn't the only part of burial. How the person is remembered is another part of it.
 
Amantalado said:
They don't necessarily hate them, they have a prophecy that says that a male ice mage will end up corrupting all ice magic in Kislev. So they don't take chances with male mages in general. You either stop practicing magic or you get out of Kislev.
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That seems like a great way to ensure that they bring about the prophecy themselves, but whatever if they wanna bring about their own demise thats their buisness.

Still don't see how that prevents them from formalizing the go to the empire idea, to ensure that people actually get there and don't end up I dunno as Necromancers or whatever.
 
Burned_Cookie said:
Reliable? Maybe. Evil? Yes.

Why do they hate them that much anyway. I mean, if they were all in the empire, they'd be someones elses problem? Even if they do think AMAB spellcasters are doomed?
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Hate has nothing to do with it.

It effective in stopping the prophecy and the ice witches as a group are cold and rarthless.

You think no one has said to them that there are better ways?

They know that it can be seen as evil, that most see it as evil, and they give zero fucks.
 
Codex said:
Memorial is part of the "Burial Ritual" part. How you deal with the body isn't the only part of burial. How the person is remembered is another part of it.
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I more meant that I think he does not value burials like humans do, that the sanctity of a body loses it once a person is dead. A memorial is separate from a burial, you need a body for a burial, a memorial can just be a giant rock with words on it. That even if he does gets buried, he would be more personally invested in the epitaph than the casket.
 
[X] [KISLEV] Waystone Project: Kislev
[X] [WIDOW] Waystone Project: Ice Witches

Not sure how comfortable I am dragging Hag Witches in without ever having interacted with them, and I also think kislevs raw resources and permission to poke their waystones would be useful for us—it could also unlock another mini-arc into the Fire Spire, and it's obvious that there's something weird happening there.
 
[X] [KISLEV] Library: Bokha Palace

[X] [KISLEV] Library: University of Kislev

[X] [KISLEV] Library: Magnus Gardens of Praag

[X] [KISLEV] Library: Writer's Rooms of Kislev

[X] [WIDOW] Waystone Project: Ice Witches
 
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Amantalado said:
They don't necessarily hate them, they have a prophecy that says that a male ice mage will end up corrupting all ice magic in Kislev. So they don't take chances with male mages in general. You either stop practicing magic or you get out of Kislev.
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I mean it's not even that strict they only demand you stop practising ice magic leaving is just to find someone to teach you other kinds of magic. They don't seem like they would have a problem with a magister living in Kislev since they can't do ice magic.
 
Briefvoice said:
[X [KISLEV] Library: Bokha Palace
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This one was malformed, needs the closing bracket after the X.

I'm really interested in meeting a Hag Witch, even while I mentally resign myself to our social actions continuing to fill up with New Hotness and us never getting the chance to clear up old business (like the skaventech or checking in on our fief).
BurnNote said:
Our strategic Grandma supplies are critically low. Especially high quality grandmas. The empire only produces low quality knock-offs (sorry Wilhelmine, but your Grandma score just isn't that great). Our allies, the dwarfs, produce some of the best grandmas and grandpas in the world, but the number is completly insufficent and there are sever export restrictions. Even Mathilde only has intermitten access to her dwarf grandpa (though it is the best grandpa). To ensure the continued success and functioning of the project, we must find different sources.

And Kislev is that source. No other nation can match Kislev in the qualtity, quantity and variety of Grandmas. We must use this chance to gain peaceful access to this strategic ressource.

Now, you may ask, why do we need two kinds of grandmas? Surely one would be enough. Get BÖÖK instead. To you I say, you must cure your ignorance. Kiselv has many grandmas, yes. But it is an important good, slow and expensive to produce, and there's no such thing as abundance. We cannot expect them to empty their own stock, and so we must spread out to fullfill our needs without causing a shortage. As for BÖÖK? Grandma is BÖÖK, but wrinkly.
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This is a work of art.
 
VillaininGlasses said:
I mean it's not even that strict they only demand you stop practising ice magic leaving is just to find someone to teach you other kinds of magic. They don't seem like they would have a problem with a magister living in Kislev since they can't do ice magic.
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Yeah, but that realistically means going to the Empire. Kislev isn't in quite so good relations with its more populous, larger and wealthier southern neighbour that they'd be comfortable with the Colleges officially opening a branch on its territory - they're ok with doing an unofficial send mage potentials to the Empire (or else almost certainly to various priesthoods) but they don't want a significant College presence (Mathilde being a very significant exception on account of rescuing Vlag from Chaos; but unlike the Karaz Ankor where Mathilde had multiple options both Kislev and Bretonnia were ok with cooperation only in strictly limited ways).
 
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