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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Altom said:
And our Patriarch is best known for building a set of disappearing Doom Towers filled with forbidden lore which are used to lure those seeking said lore to their deaths.
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I mean I said Mathilde was effective, looking at that the two other most effective greys we know are the same, but not every Grey wizard is that powerful, so slightly more normal irl style spies.
 
Well, Ulgu is the Wind of confusion, mystery and deception.

Wouldn't be very good at that if they were all a standardized stereotype.
Every Grey Wizard has their own ways to confuse and mystify.

Mathilde just does it by Cunning Brutality.
For her, its about using every way and means, in the right place, at the right time, to apply a lot of violence very suddenly to the right target.
 
BeepSmile said:
but the Necromancy faction has spirit!
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Oh please Necromancy faction has given up the ghost long time ago. It is apparation faction that has spirit, well some spirit. Okay fine but we are working on it now.

If we had bound any we would have instant backup now. We really should get around to it soon.
 
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Tasoli said:
Oh please Necromancy faction has given up the ghost long time ago. It is apparation faction that has spirit, well some spirit. Okay fine but we are working on it now.

If we had bound any we would have instant backup now. We really should get around to it soon.
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I propose a compromise.

Instead of just any random apparition, we find a powerful one that we bind to our souls using the proveably more powerful Dhar. This way, by combining the forces of the apparition faction and the Dhar faction, we vastly increase each others' chance of success!

Surely nothing has ever gone wrong from accepting someone's offer of helping you reach your arcane ambitions using Dark Magic, right?
 
I don't know why people are worried we won't get enough payoff from Mira. Think about it:

Mathilde: "You were right. Alric found a problem big enough to overturn your College and all Talabheim besides."

Mira: "That's not good. What exact kind of problem are we talking about?"

Mathilde: "Oh, it's the kind that ends with '...and I took care of it.'"

Mira: "But we only negotiated for you to investigate?"

Mathilde: "I was just doing my job! You know how it gets when you haven't taken down a real monster in a while. Besides, I know the Light College leader I want to be working with -- and her name isn't Alric."

If Mathilde went to bat for you like that, when you were at your most vulnerable, when you were about to lose the job you'd always wanted, to a man you'd long since learned to despise -- how would you feel about the woman who cheerfully stepped in and saved you?

Mira won't forget Mathilde, not for the rest of her life and Matriarchy.

Sure, Mira is a politician. She won't turn her gratitude into free services, not the way Belegar might. She'll put her career first. But politician or not, if you meet someone who's willing to save your butt, for free? You're going to look for ways to keep that person thinking well of you.

After all, the butt of a Magister attracts many dangers.
 
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So because of the narrative direction Mathy is taking with her papers and now with her inner monologues.

What would the Warhammer version of the Fellowship of the Ring look like if we can convince the thread to write a book instead of papers?

The Comradeship of the pendant?

(I'm totally shilling this next turn, we have CF plenty)

The chaos wastes work as a Morder, I'm sure there is a mountin that will work.

and the Ward of the Storm as a 'last friendly house.'

Moot is the shire, that's easy.

Aragorn and Boromir would be Kislav in my mind, though Aragorn would be the descendant of a Legendary Boyar of Troll country and Bormir's family the regents or something so as to not upset the Ice Queen with 'the true king' stuff. (the return of the Boyar doesn't sound bad)

Legolas would be an Enoir wayfinder and Gimli I feel would be a Zhufbar Engineer so him being a little Kickfliply would go down easier. because of in universe sensibilities, Legolas and Gimli will never become friends, but a mutual respect will reluctantly develop in teeth pulling way.

the hobbies will be halflings, that's easy.

The wizard could be Mathy, but I feel like a character based on Olorin would be funnier.
 
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Jyn Ryvia said:
What would the Warhammer version of the Fellowship of the Ring look like? (I'm totally shilling this next turn, we have CF plenty)
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They already exist.
Jyn Ryvia said:
The wizard could be Mathy, but I feel like a character based on Olorin would be funnier.
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There's already a Wizard named Olorin in quest:
Boney said:
"The one and only. Devastating woman. From what I've heard she never even made it out of Altdorf as a Journeywoman - was about to set off when the city was besieged by Tomb Kings after some trinket or another, and by the time they were rebuffed she'd made enough of a name for herself on the walls that they promoted her to Magister. Pity she keeps handing back power, she's much better suited to it." He sighs. "What about yours? Magister Patriarch Olorin, isn't it? I've never heard much about them, which I suppose is only natural."

"Olorin retired back when I was an Apprentice. Algard is the current Magister Patriarch."
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You could go for a more serious version of the Comradeship instead of the clear joke that they are in "canon" I suppose.
 
Codex said:
They already exist.

There's already a Wizard named Olorin in quest:

You could go for a more serious version of the Comradeship instead of the clear joke that they are in "canon" I suppose.
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I know, that's why I thought Olorin would be a funny person to base Gandflf off of (place inspection sound here)

And yes I am thinking of a more serious version.

edit: also, Im talking about mathy writing a book in universe, if that's not obvious
 
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Jyn Ryvia said:
I know, that's why I thought Olorin would be a funny person to base Gandflf off of (place inspection sound here)

And yes I am thinking of a more serious version.

edit: also, Im talking about mathy writing a book in universe, if that's not obvious
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Ah, it did not read to me at all like that. I think I missed the point there.
 
Can we make a deal with the fallen elector count, we can promise him that we will give his family justice by going after the people who murdered them, in exchange for his cooperation,Matilda can't spare his life, but at least his family will be avenged?
 
Has there been talk of infodumping the Bursar about the situation? She was the one who kept the imperial seal from the Utahfingers in the first place when they retreated to Talabecland (rather than Stirland where they previously had the EC) and she got known for breaking trade leagues. She might have insights into what kind of skullduggery they were dipping into and/or see something in the current situation that we have missed.

Talking about managing the fallout once Alberich is dealt with here.
 
Jyn Ryvia said:
No worries.

Thoughts?
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I think you're exaggerating the hatred between Dwarves and Elves on an individual level. If a Dwarf and Elf fought side by side for a while and went through the same things that Legolas and Gimli went through, and the two of them are relatively open minded (and we've seen a bunch of Dwarves like that so I don't see why not Elves) then I can see them being friends. The Grudge of the Beard was avenged thousands of years ago and the Eonir are practically unknown compared to Asrai and Asur, so it would allow the Dwarves to form a fresh opinion. The opinion would be informed by prejudice from long held beliefs, but Gimli and Legolas had that about them in the beginning until they learned to get along.

Secondly, Karag Dum is literally Mount Doom. It's the perfect mountain for the whole thing. It would, however, be an extremely uncomfortable topic for Dwarves, so Mathilde would not write about it.

I think Aragorn and Boromir being Kislevites would be fun. Mathilde doesn't have nearly enough experience with Kislev to make a "return of the Boyar" type plot though.

Also, I trust Mathilde to make Fellowship of the Ring explicitly gay instead of having it be vague enough that thousands of gay people project onto the characters and have to make their own stories to explore themselves. Gimli/Legolas and Frodo/Sam were vital parts of my self discovery, and I hold them dear for it.
 
Chopak said:
@Jyn Ryvia I'd personally make Aragorn a Brettonian, because the whole "will return one day to claim his rightful throne" blah blah sounds a lot like Brettonia feudal fiefdoms shenanigans.
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The problem though is that Knightland isn't anywhere near the wastes, so it's not a great Gondor, while the Boyored's are.

I won't care for the details to be as similar as possible over the core themes and ideas. (Example, Mathy's version would totally have gunpowder weapons.)
Codex said:
I think you're exaggerating the hatred between Dwarves and Elves on an individual level. If a Dwarf and Elf fought side by side for a while and went through the same things that Legolas and Gimli went through, and the two of them are relatively open minded (and we've seen a bunch of Dwarves like that so I don't see why not Elves) then I can see them being friends. The Grudge of the Beard was avenged thousands of years ago and the Eonir are practically unknown compared to Asrai and Asur, so it would allow the Dwarves to form a fresh opinion. The opinion would be informed by prejudice from long held beliefs, but Gimli and Legolas had that about them in the beginning until they learned to get along.

Secondly, Karag Dum is literally Mount Doom. It's the perfect mountain for the whole thing. It would, however, be an extremely uncomfortable topic for Dwarves, so Mathilde would not write about it.

I think Aragorn and Boromir being Kislevites would be fun. Mathilde doesn't have nearly enough experience with Kislev to make a "return of the Boyar" type plot though.

Also, I trust Mathilde to make Fellowship of the Ring explicitly gay instead of having it be vague enough that thousands of gay people project onto the characters and have to make their own stories to explore themselves. Gimli/Legolas and Frodo/Sam were vital parts of my self discovery, and I hold them dear for it.
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I was thinking more about the sensibilities of the readers, the average dwarf won't care to read about a elf-dwarf friendship and mathy would know that.

By that same token, as the empire is better about homosexuality then 1940s Europe, Frodo and Sam would be free to be their best selfs.
 
Ninbefor said:
Besides, I know the Light College leader I want to be working with -- and her name isn't Alric."
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Thread: Argues pros and cons* about hinting to Mira that more is nice.

Ninbefor: "Friends, countrymen, Romans. Lend me your ears, for I have a solution!"

Ninbefor's solutuion: Flirt
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(Edit: The con's arguements have been swaying me from my original position)
 
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