Plundering for profit is obviously directly against the vow here, but plundering for items of historical significance, rare or forbidden texts, dark artifacts and literal or metaphorical closet skeletons is another matter entirely. For example, they could have a lot of dirt on a lot of different people that Heidi could use in her contingencies for the case where Luitpold does a stupid.
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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Chlof
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I think it's a British saying related to conkers or something? English is such a weird language.
Note to self: Avoid Araby. We already have enemies there.
Sod the money. I want the secrets and artefacts they are hoarding. And I want that stuff handed over either to whoever used to own it before Dieter stole it or to the Palace / Collages as appropriate.
Still don't want to bring anyone else in.
Really don't want to leave and let this play out.
Very much do want to loot the manner house.
Rather tempted to grab the local Witch Hunters and start kicking in doors, but that can perhaps wait a week.
Perhaps go look at the hunting lodge?
Talabheim is one of the four most important cities in the Empire. The only winner would be Chaos.
And if there are no secrets and no artifacts? It would be a bit hard to trace money and I do not think you will be able to persuade the thread to give it up after we steal it.
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Could be Slaanesh's influence, if that's the one of four we're dealing with. Mathilde really, really wants to loot the place.
...or it could be a massive trap option that'll destroy the reputation of the entire Grey Order.
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If the goal really is purely to reappropriate that which was originally stolen that would presumably be a valid write in, probably more effective than a general plunder action since Mathilde could skip over stuff like checking the library for rare books or searching out currency etc and instead do some research on what Dieter is suspected of stealing.
Ayyy, that's what I said!
I don't know if you or your muse compelled you to write these snippets or if you just responded due to prior thread chatter, but I'd just like to say I liked these a lot.
I'm not saying Roswita used these, but is there no magic item that makes pregnancy more convenient? Like a kid that doesn't kick, make the baby bump inconsequential, or even a cosmetic thing for hiding heirs?
Think it's an in-universe adaption for "a nugget of knowledge"
Not sure that mansions exclude moonlight. Old-timey novels portray moonlight as part of the setting all the time. But I also imagined that the mansion were one of the ones where you had massive fuck-off windows every couple feet.
I think this has a likelyhood, not that it's attached. A legitimate pre-caution, but I believe there's at least a sequence of decisions where we can have our cake that not practically dependent on rolls.
While I think everyone who wants it appreciates the money, I think it's the act of greed that will affect the vote. Like even if the loot is just another thing on the level of a Kurgan Arm, people would still not regret it.
We don't need to survey and research Abelreich's life because of redundancy. Abelreich will give us more into Abel's headspace, the culprit. While Survey Hunting Lodge will help with observing the Unfangers, the victims.
Also that the guy in 5 weeks is a non-factor to the ritual. The sixth guy is only that, while seventh is the danger zone. We have effectively the remaining 5 weeks + the 3 weeks leading to the 7th guy. Whether IC Mathilde justifies the additional information, or that she feels guilt for the "necessary evil", my point is that mechanically we have 8 weeks.
I think we can conclude Abel is weaker than Alric pre-completion of the ritual or enough of a deterrent.
Hunting lodge should also be a requirement, most likely those will be Mr. and Ms. 6, 7, and/or 8. I'd prefer to interrogate over approaching them however.
With 5/8 effective actions, I think we have leeway for both total secrecy and a hint of greed.
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After having given it some thought I think we should bring Alric in. This is very plausible for our given excuse and can be seen by Mira as Mathilde yet again going beyond what was initially asked of her. The biggest reason however is that it means we are on hand to explain, coverup forewarn etc. anything r.e. Heidi that Alric uncovers as part of his research. If we leave Alric to his own devices we will have to beat Alric to stopping the ritual and he has already had time to prepare i.e. we are playing catchup.
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Codex
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Not that I know of, but there are magic contraceptives. They're frowned upon:
"Maid's Charm: These small amulets are often shaped after Rhya, or in her northern aspect as Dryath, the Mother of Childbirth. On occasion, the Jade Order makes these, carving them to resemble the spiral of life. Use of these amulets is frowned upon, and many Hedge Wizards and Witches have found their way to the witch pyre after creating them for love struck maidens." Page 205 Realms of Sorcery.
K von Carstein
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Why would they be frowned upon? For the same reasons as condoms irl? The Church of Sigmar didn't sound that backwards to me.
Codex
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The Church of Sigmar is extremely puritanical in the RPG. They disdain all manner of pleasures and dislike premarital sex and all that stuff. Also, magic.
I don't think anyone has created a paranoid theory that it's all Alric, and in fact everything bad is probably his fault, so let me be the one.
First, let's dispense with the myth that Alric was only guilty through negligence for the night of a thousand arcane duels. No, he deliberately set Horx on that path. Why? Power of course. So long as the colleges are legal, the Supreme Patriarch has a master. When they were outlawed, he would have had none above him. Of course, his plan didn't quite work out. It's likely he planned to resolve it himself, but Horx betrayed him (typical Tzeetch behavior). Or maybe the Sigmarites proved more formidable than expected. Plans backfiring is also very Tzeetchian, and the survivors learn to roll with it.
Anyway, the next plan was of course Horstmann. Perhaps as his apprentice in evil, perhaps to steal his body for renewal. Sending him northwards was just another step in this. So is making him resent Alric. After all, what could be more Tzeechian than betraying your master for a secret master who promises power and freedom, only it's actually the original master? I'll tell you: Getting betrayed by that master. Alric is truly an evil monster.
So, Alric is responsible for the deaths of the Unfähige. Did he do it personnally? Likely not. No, instead, he was the one who initiated Alberich into the secret rites, and so he knew of his return, and the plans on his return. His plan here is as manifold as it is vile. He plans to destroy the unity of the empire by framing the empress for these horrible deeds. He plans install a puppet as one of the electors. He plans to use this acclaim to return to his position. And he plans to betray Alberich, making him the ninth murder in a dedication to Tzeentch.
As a sidenote: He's also responsible for the death of Hexensohn and Abelhelm. He send his agent there, who then faked his death to both ensure Abelhelm would get no aid, and also to actually go and murder Hexensohn. Hopefully, Roswita managed to prevent whatever cursed followup he was planning in Stirland.
First, let's dispense with the myth that Alric was only guilty through negligence for the night of a thousand arcane duels. No, he deliberately set Horx on that path. Why? Power of course. So long as the colleges are legal, the Supreme Patriarch has a master. When they were outlawed, he would have had none above him. Of course, his plan didn't quite work out. It's likely he planned to resolve it himself, but Horx betrayed him (typical Tzeetch behavior). Or maybe the Sigmarites proved more formidable than expected. Plans backfiring is also very Tzeetchian, and the survivors learn to roll with it.
Anyway, the next plan was of course Horstmann. Perhaps as his apprentice in evil, perhaps to steal his body for renewal. Sending him northwards was just another step in this. So is making him resent Alric. After all, what could be more Tzeechian than betraying your master for a secret master who promises power and freedom, only it's actually the original master? I'll tell you: Getting betrayed by that master. Alric is truly an evil monster.
So, Alric is responsible for the deaths of the Unfähige. Did he do it personnally? Likely not. No, instead, he was the one who initiated Alberich into the secret rites, and so he knew of his return, and the plans on his return. His plan here is as manifold as it is vile. He plans to destroy the unity of the empire by framing the empress for these horrible deeds. He plans install a puppet as one of the electors. He plans to use this acclaim to return to his position. And he plans to betray Alberich, making him the ninth murder in a dedication to Tzeentch.
As a sidenote: He's also responsible for the death of Hexensohn and Abelhelm. He send his agent there, who then faked his death to both ensure Abelhelm would get no aid, and also to actually go and murder Hexensohn. Hopefully, Roswita managed to prevent whatever cursed followup he was planning in Stirland.
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They're either magic and therefore suspect, or they're using Rhya's power for what is seen as a selfish purpose by puritans.
Mopman43
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Wait a second here, wait a second- cunning, extreme brutality, what if we're going about this all wrong here, what if this doesn't have to do with the Chaos Gods at all?
What if this is a ritual... to Mork?!
(This post largely made in jest)
Codex
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There are several passages in the RPG, such as Rhya's Daughters in Tome of Salvation, that gives me the feeling that whenever the writers of 2nd Editions wanted to portray the sexism in the setting, they use the phrase "whisper that they practice rituals that steal a man's potency" as shorthand for "the women are not getting pregnant and that worries the men". It's been used a few other times I think, but Rhya's Daughters is fresh in my memory.
Gotrek actually crying in his grave. Already forgotten.
No motive for Gotrek, no legitimacy, no motive, no guilt for Alric. Theory busted.
K von Carstein
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Yeah. I was a bit upset we wouldn't begin the Waystone Project this turn, but that side quest is good at placating me. /j
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You would make a terrible conspiracy theorist if you can't imagine a reason for Alric to murder Gotrek.