Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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CrabMonarchy
Allegedly Dutch
- Location
- the Netherlands, apparently
[X] Grief
[X] Trauma
[X] Trauma
- Pronouns
- It/Its
we can say that we "indirectly learned about the war underground from the head of the watch at the time, who originally assumed we were settling it up for that purpose"
no lie there
- Location
- Earth
[X] Skaven
[X] Trauma
[X] Trauma
Fayhem
Definitely not an escaped SCP
- Location
- At large
- Pronouns
- He/Him
I think that cause needs to come before effect, though. So saying "we did what we did with the Watch because we found out about the Skaven after one of our hires reacted to what we already did with the Watch" seems problematic. Since that puts the cause coming after the effect, which is not how what one might term conventional causality works.
In addition, I'm dubious that the Porter doesn't know exactly what kind of thing works to magically unlock the Skaven briefing, so if the head of the Watch we hired referring to "the War Underground" didn't unlock the memories then that means that doesn't unlock the memories. Which the Porter would presumably know, since out of everybody in the Grey Order he's probably most likely to be directly involved in that memory-gating process in the first place. So then that explanation would fail the bullshit test with him even if we massaged causality to negate the previous issue somehow.
More generally, if Mathilde found out about the Skaven in Stirland, then based on what we've seen for what will trigger the memory unlocking, that would entail either coming across a Skaven plot and not reporting it, or somebody fucking with the Conspiracy of Silence.
- Location
- A Pit Of My Own Making
- Pronouns
- He/Him
[x] Other (write-in): Grief, but note that it certainly looks like Skaven would fit and such an explaination would paint the order in a better light.
consequences
Not A Nice Person At All
- Location
- Jerkville
[JK] Betrayal
-[JK] It was the start of my long con to gain Ranald's trust, which has recently culminated in him lowering his guard and revealing hidden divine connections. We can with some more effort use those to bring him to his proper place, subservient under Sigmar.
Meanwhile in this reality:
[x] Grief
-[JK] It was the start of my long con to gain Ranald's trust, which has recently culminated in him lowering his guard and revealing hidden divine connections. We can with some more effort use those to bring him to his proper place, subservient under Sigmar.
Meanwhile in this reality:
[x] Grief
- Pronouns
- It/Its
I mean the earlier watch stuff, when we first recruited him he assumed we were fighting the war underground, and then later we tried to make it Ranaldian
- Location
- A Pit Of My Own Making
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Is there a standard model for quests like these? In regards to character skills, challenges, etc. I'm designing the start of a quest although I might never run it
Aranfan
Team Plasma Grunt
"A dwarf mentioned them while working on my underground lair."
Strange9
hdellaverson@gmail.com
- Location
- Los Angeles, CA
Total aside, but I recall waaaaay back when Boney said they weren't interested in Cathay because they'd have to essentially create a whole society from whole cloth for relatively little gain. Was this ever changed with the new Cathay lore from warhammer 3? I searched with the Cathay keyword but didn't really see anything. @picklepikkl
[X] Skaven
[X] Trauma
[X] Skaven
[X] Trauma
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There's no real "standard" model, and many quest writers like to invent their own systems (and some don't have a system at all, being purely narrative with no mechanics or dice rolls). That said, this quest uses a variation of the popular "Crusader Kings 2" (or CK2) model, where characters have six stats (learning, martial, diplomacy, stewardship, intrigue, and piety) and various traits that modify those stats, and then adds the score to a 1d100 to determine the success of the action.
It's not quite a conscious decision to adopt a new style, more the inevitable result of an extremely different story being told. K8P and Karag Dum were largely military Dwarven projects, which is an entirely different kettle of fish to deeply political R&D projects involving a lot of parties with different priorities.
The thread's been choosing the arcs, and the thread's been going for the big and the arcane. Things would probably be a lot more grounded if, say, Border Princess or Sylvanian Count were chosen and Mathilde had to focus on the responsibilities of governance.
Magister. Magisters are actually less than 10% of even the magic-capable proportion of a College, and that ratio is even more skewed for the Lights.
Yeah, I've been working on fleshing out the various titles that get thrown around without ever being fully explained for the Light Order into a set of specializations. 'High Luminary' is said in some parts of canon to be the name for the Light's Magister Patriarch, but in others Horx is referred to it despite ever rightfully claiming the title and it never seems to be reliably applied to anyone else, so I've made it the highest Light Order Witch Hunter rank instead.
Something I think is important for writers to keep in mind with writing in historical and fantasy settings is that people with all of these 'modern' diagnoses still existed, they just didn't have any sort of help in dealing with them and had to figure out their own ways to interface with a society that wasn't built for them.
By the extremely scientific method of 'which singer would I associate him with' (Hansi Kursch in Nightfall in Middle-Earth) and looking up what they are: high baritone. The Light Order uses existing musical tradition as a framework so they stick to what we would understand, but some are capable of things like solo harmonizing.
This is one of my favourite kinds of joke, it's funny from a modern perspective but true from an in-setting one. Merchants get rich without owning land or titles, which is considered by many nobles to be an affront to the natural order of things.
This quest is a play on a common quest format called a 'CK2 quest', where the main character is a noble of a historical or fantasy region with stats and often traits based on Crusader Kings 2. Or Crusader Kings 3 more recently, I suppose. The general trend is that the quest is given a character or choice of characters that have just come into power, and there's usually an immediate problem to deal with, often related to what killed the previous incumbent.
Not yet, since what's available is currently just snippets from marketing releases. That might change after the release of TW3.
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ConfusedCanuck
Where did it all go wrong?
- Location
- Neverland
[X] Grief
MiracleGrow
Miracles for only $19.99 [They/Them]
- Location
- DOOR STUCK DOOR STUCK PLEASE I BEG U
[X] Trauma
Sir_Travelsalot
Never wakes up tired.
- Location
- At Home
[X] Trauma
- Location
- New York
- Pronouns
- He/Him
[X] Grief
[X] Trauma
Absolutely not willing to make a direct, complete lie within the bounds of the grey college to another lord magister.
Also, aren't there not actually Skaven under Wurtbad?
[X] Trauma
Absolutely not willing to make a direct, complete lie within the bounds of the grey college to another lord magister.
Also, aren't there not actually Skaven under Wurtbad?
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OOC information: Not under Wurtbad, but there are under other parts of Stirland and Wurtbad would be the logical next step for expansion.
[X] Piety
I'd rather not hide behind weakness.
I'd rather not hide behind weakness.