YOUR WAYSTONES HAVE FAILED YOU, SO SETTRA WILL ERECT SUPERIOR PYRAMIDS UPON THE RUINS OF YOUR CITIES. THANK SETTRA FOR HIS BENEFICENCE.
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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YOUR WAYSTONES HAVE FAILED YOU, SO SETTRA WILL ERECT SUPERIOR PYRAMIDS UPON THE RUINS OF YOUR CITIES. THANK SETTRA FOR HIS BENEFICENCE.
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- They/Them
...look the Black Pyramid of Nagash is literally a nega-Waystone so I see no problems with this.
- Location
- Somewhere in the area
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- He/She/They
Magister Tochter Grunfeld has my vote, the rituals/druidic rites are more important than the cult's history for our purposes right now.
Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
That's our girlfriend, successfully bringing life back to the lands that have been desolated by the ravages of war!
Wait, so you're saying the rational thing to do isn't to declare an eternal grudge on the herbs and forever chase them for the crime of not being there when you wanted them?
I figured I'd been doing something wrong...
K von Carstein
Likes to go for a walk
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- Belgium
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- He
Honestly, if the Magister Patriarch of the Jade is nearly certain his Order knows nothing interesting about the subject, I'm inclined to believe him.
- Location
- his hidden lair
Hmm. Hmm. There's no rule the Emperor has to be an Imperial citizen correct? I mean, we know from Magnus the Pious you certainly don't have to be an Elector...
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- They/Them
So we wait until Settra is sleeping, abduct him and install him as Emperor? I mean, being abducted by foreigners because they have recognised his greatness and wish to be ruled by him is sufficiently novel and ego-pleasing he might not genocide our entire nation.
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- Aotearoa
We are probably the only Magister who could march two entire Karaks to war, no questions asked, and have a good chance of mobilising the entire Karaz Ankor.
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- They/Them
Unless his conviction in the superiority of Teclis's teachings is strong enough that he's blinded to the possibility that Teclis didn't know things. I mean, would you trust the average old man to tell you if there was something the person he idolised didn't know?
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My highest priorities for the social vote will be Egrimm and Cython. Egrimm because it's time-critical and we still don't have as great a read on him as we'd like and Cython because it's a good start on the Ranald research and because it's Cython. Other good options include Belegar, the Fief, and Stirland.
For the Jade Order, I'm not thrilled with what they're offering (a gamble) or the price (at least one action, possibly more). That being said, I'm not completely opposed, but I feel like I'd prefer to have a firmer idea of what our next turn looks like before deciding. That can wait until morning to think about, I think.
For the Jade Order, I'm not thrilled with what they're offering (a gamble) or the price (at least one action, possibly more). That being said, I'm not completely opposed, but I feel like I'd prefer to have a firmer idea of what our next turn looks like before deciding. That can wait until morning to think about, I think.
I want to leave the on-screen visit at least another turn, the absolute minimum for the Junior Apprentice period is three years and she's only one year in. Mathilde would be dropping in on her off-screen when she's in Altdorf.
- Location
- France
Do you agree to investigate Gryphon's Wood in exchange for the Jade Order joining the Project?
[ ] Yes
[ ] Magister Tochter Grunfeld
Clearly the best choice. Familiarity with rituals? Ambitious and innovative? Experience with hostile magical circumstances? Much better than the other picks.
The options I'll vote for:
[ ] Egrimm, to celebrate his imminent promotion and gauge his reaction to it.
[ ] Elrisse, to get to know the most recent contributor to the Project.
[ ] Belegar, to discuss who has been made Loremaster after you.
[ ] Cython, to talk obliquely of what it means for a God to have offspring.
[ ] Roswita, to get a sense for who will control Sylvania after you turned down the position.
I think my reasoning is fairly straightforward: I'm trying to stay narratively focused, without dropping back to read old stuff too often. We're in the start of a big, complex arc, and it'll be good for the story's re-readability if we don't go on too many tangents.
We've also seen how she turns all her papers into hype-generators, and she doesn't lack for LM-worthy feats, so I don't expect her reputation to be lacking either.
[ ] Yes
[ ] Magister Tochter Grunfeld
Clearly the best choice. Familiarity with rituals? Ambitious and innovative? Experience with hostile magical circumstances? Much better than the other picks.
The options I'll vote for:
[ ] Egrimm, to celebrate his imminent promotion and gauge his reaction to it.
[ ] Elrisse, to get to know the most recent contributor to the Project.
[ ] Belegar, to discuss who has been made Loremaster after you.
[ ] Cython, to talk obliquely of what it means for a God to have offspring.
[ ] Roswita, to get a sense for who will control Sylvania after you turned down the position.
I think my reasoning is fairly straightforward: I'm trying to stay narratively focused, without dropping back to read old stuff too often. We're in the start of a big, complex arc, and it'll be good for the story's re-readability if we don't go on too many tangents.
She's a Lady Magister. That puts her in the top 50 by default.
We've also seen how she turns all her papers into hype-generators, and she doesn't lack for LM-worthy feats, so I don't expect her reputation to be lacking either.
K von Carstein
Likes to go for a walk
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- Belgium
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- He
In political power, sure. But not magical, which if think was what she meant.
He also was Magister Patriarch (the highest authority of his College) for decades, and a LM before that. I trust him to be up to date with his Order's knowledge. And he wasn't always an old man.
Yeah I am going to vote no on the Jades. On the one side we have rumors that they might know stuff and on the other side we have the Magister Patriarch saying 'no, it's bullshit, in fact it is such bullshit that I will have to waste my time trying to get its proponents to shut up about it internally.' For all we want as much information as we can get duds do exist and we should not lean in to them hoping to turn lead into gold.
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I really want to talk to Roswita this time for two reasons. Firstly, Sylvania looks like it's about to kick off again so knowing who had the job Mathilde could have had is going to be useful regarding that. Secondly (and perhaps more importantly), I just like her.
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- Aotearoa
Again, we're Magic 9 and have pretty continuously shown an aptitude for quick study of some of the most challenging spells of Ulgu available to us. Even wrote our own Battlemagic, as I recall.
Undecided about the Jades as yet, but Ostermark did come up twice as brewing trouble (specifically):
Maybe we at least need to insert those EIC Agents into a Province (Ostermark) next turn, if theres nothing specifically Alric-related that's more pressing.
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fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
So I think this will be something that we can get the Hoclander to do for us.
I think it is more that there are less then 50 lord magisters in the empire most of whom send in less then 1 piece of paperwork a month so it all gets fast tracked.
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Er... that would be really bad for his health. Whatever this is it is jumping the border to Kislev. They kill male wizards in Kislev. Now granted they probably would not kill an Imperial wizard who comes openly, but he would not come openly. If some Hag witch and her local ungols catch him we will have to look for a new perpetual.
Chlof
Her Ladyship
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- She/Her
I think setting up an actual headquarters for Rudiger would help here. As far as I can tell he's been doing most his work on the move, and while that's worked for a while I think the shear volume of info might be too much to handle without a place to store/sort it.
NSMS
Probably evil, unfortunately.
- Location
- A rapidly widening tear in the fabric of reality
An important thing to note about what Paranoth said is this section here:
He's not denying that the druids might have known things that weren't taught by Teclis, just saying he doubts they've been preserved down the generations since. But the druids were a mystery cult, and Paranoth essentially isn't a member of the little subset of Jades that still hold to their ways- in fact, he's actively opposed to them. I wouldn't put it past the druid remnants to be actively concealing things from him.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
I didn't think of that. Although he is a resourceful chap. Maybe he will think of a workaround if we give him the problem? It's part of the magic of delegation.
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Hey, I know everyone is talking about the vote right now but I had a crazy idea that I wanted to interject with. I was thinking about the mystery of Ranald's daughters. Well there is a rather famous duo of maybe gods, definitely at least semi-devine, sisters. We were just maybe looking at the wrong realms. What about the sisters of twilight. Two sisters, none know their origin they just seemed to show up, they have somewhat opposing personalities but stick together no matter what. The painting had one daughter be mostly Shallya with a bit of Ranald(Naestra, the sister who is reserved who reigns in her sister) and the other be mostly Ranald with a hint Shallya(Arahan, the sister who is wild that draws her sister into action). They protect Athel Loren(Ranald) and they heal completely as long as one survives(Shallya). How to test this idea is tricky indeed. Let me know if someone already guessed this but I didn't see many mentions of the sisters in nearly the entire thread so I don't believe so.
On the other hand I would not put is past them to pretend to know more than they do in order to retain some hint of relevancy in a in an order that has outgrown them. Sometimes there really is nothing in the mystery box.