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Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)
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- Location
- The Core
[X] The situation between Zeqing and Hanyi is deteriorating. You have mastered her lessons and her art. The time for a tribulation is here, and perhaps it can solve the terrible situation forming before your eyes.
- Location
- Singapore
[X] The situation between Zeqing and Hanyi is deteriorating. You have mastered her lessons and her art. The time for a tribulation is here, and perhaps it can solve the terrible situation forming before your eyes.
- Location
- At the end of the world
In the wake of your growing insights, you need to think about what family truly means.
These words remind me of something. I didn't see anywhere analysis about our Domain and what it Insights mean, so i make my own.
Why? Because i was annoyed when i saw purely narrative choices for our Insights.
Seriously, it forces you to just choose the answer that looks better, without understanding of what effects it has. It's like trying to buy car or house, in LQ case, focusing only on it's appearance. Yes, appearance is important but it's not all there is. And it's too big choice to just wave your hand and pick one because it has lovely windows.
But than i saw our F Rank Domain.
Fortunately, effects of our Domain is something more tangible. Moreover in our Domain i see interpretation of what these Insights actually mean in more material terms.
It's easy too see that our Domain has three big effects:
1.Allies in a scene with whom Ling Qi has at least four ranks of positive relation receive a one rank bonus to Spiritual Avoid, Armor and Combat Perception(Boosted Rank cannot exceed Ling Qi's).
2.So long as at least one such ally is in the scene with Ling Qi she receives a half rank bonus to resisting or avoiding effects which would induce immobility or helplessness.
3.In addition, when within a space Ling Qi considers to be 'hers' she receives a half rank bonus to Social Perception.
Now which effect belongs to which insight? Lets start with the obvious one. Even before changes in our Domain we had one insight from Argent Mirror that gave us bonus to Social Perception 'when attempting to discern lies or see through illusions'. I think it reasonable to assume that AM Insight gives as third effect.
Now for the other two: only one of them gives bonuses to someone other than LQ, so i assume its FVM effect, because only FVM insight speaks of bringing something to others. Now all three is sorted lets see the 'pairings'.
AM -Sincerity is the measure by which the worthiness of the self and ones guests should be measured.
In addition, when within a space Ling Qi considers to be 'hers' she receives a half rank bonus to Social Perception.
FSS -There are endings and Endings, only the very last one is final. Just as winter ends in spring, small endings are new beginnings
So long as at least one such ally is in the scene with Ling Qi she receives a half rank bonus to resisting or avoiding effects which would induce immobility or helplessness.
FVM-Though a path might be hard and lonely, it has worth if you can present something of beauty to those you care for at the end.
Allies in a scene with whom Ling Qi has at least four ranks of positive relation receive a one rank bonus to Spiritual Avoid, Armor and Combat Perception(Boosted Rank cannot exceed Ling Qi's).
And now its finally easier to see what means what.
AM Insight speaks about measuring yourself and others with sincerity, with social means and it gives us half rank of Soc. Perception, but with condition that LQ is within a space she considers to be 'hers', i assume that it tied to word 'guests' which associated with Home, some other space that is yours.
Mostly simple but it's uncertain what LQ counts as 'hers' space, does it means her home?, her family home?, stage where she performs on Cai's parties?, space near her friends?, or maybe her Mist? Hard to answer, we need more information here.
FSS insight is tough one, i wasn't able to interpret it at first, LQ own thoughts helped me.
path. So small endings hear is something that stoping you from new beginings, effects which would induce immobility or helplessness and LQ decision to refuse them gives her half rank bonus to resisting or avoiding these effects.
I am not really happy with this one, to many narrative to interpret narrative and i can't completely understand where it's condition of high SL with you coming from, but it still gives us some information and understanding.
FVM Insight is more straightforward, it tells as about hardship and presenting something to those you care about. Now that is quite simple you present something means - giving some bonuses (full rank) to your high SL, what bonuses? The ones we needed the most in our hardships - Spiritual Avoid, Armor and Combat Perception.
FVM is really interesting it gives us much needed context about several things about our Domain.
-It's our only 'supportive' insight, it says about giving something to others and it does just that. I think it would be easy to distinct such 'supportive' insights from more 'selfish' ones in the future. Why is that important?
-Because FVM insight gives our SL4's full rank bonuses instead of half rank, yes with condition (that boosted they can't exceed LQ's own) but all our Insights work with conditions. It really says something about our Domain that our 'supportive' insight gives overwhelmingly more and better bonuses than 'selfish' ones (3 full rank bonuses instead of one or two half rank).
-Also all of our bonuses are defensive or utility in nature. Our Domain (at least for now) doesn't gives us or our allies attacking bonuses or space control, or something else. No. Just defensive or utility bonuses and just for LQ and Tier 4 or higher SL. And that's it.
-Finally all of Domain effects has conditions. AM need space that LQ consider 'hers', FSS requires at least one high SL nearby, FVM bonused stats cannot exceed LQ's. I think it's reasonable to assume that our future insights would have their own conditions.
I think in the future we need to chose insights more carefully. Now that we have some understanding about them we can make more educated guesses at what new insights mean. For me i think i would vote mostly for 'supportive' insights, because LQ never alone. Now we have Tier 4 SL only with Zhengui, but in the future it would be also Sixiang and (if she survived) Hanyi + any allies that we have strong SL with. But i would also vote for some 'selfish' insights too, if we can boost our stats in presence of our SL, and boost their stats in return even more. Than we can create the most fair, fruitful and healthy way for our Domain to function.
These words remind me of something. I didn't see anywhere analysis about our Domain and what it Insights mean, so i make my own.
Why? Because i was annoyed when i saw purely narrative choices for our Insights.
Seriously, it forces you to just choose the answer that looks better, without understanding of what effects it has. It's like trying to buy car or house, in LQ case, focusing only on it's appearance. Yes, appearance is important but it's not all there is. And it's too big choice to just wave your hand and pick one because it has lovely windows.
But than i saw our F Rank Domain.
Fortunately, effects of our Domain is something more tangible. Moreover in our Domain i see interpretation of what these Insights actually mean in more material terms.
It's easy too see that our Domain has three big effects:
1.Allies in a scene with whom Ling Qi has at least four ranks of positive relation receive a one rank bonus to Spiritual Avoid, Armor and Combat Perception(Boosted Rank cannot exceed Ling Qi's).
2.So long as at least one such ally is in the scene with Ling Qi she receives a half rank bonus to resisting or avoiding effects which would induce immobility or helplessness.
3.In addition, when within a space Ling Qi considers to be 'hers' she receives a half rank bonus to Social Perception.
Now which effect belongs to which insight? Lets start with the obvious one. Even before changes in our Domain we had one insight from Argent Mirror that gave us bonus to Social Perception 'when attempting to discern lies or see through illusions'. I think it reasonable to assume that AM Insight gives as third effect.
Now for the other two: only one of them gives bonuses to someone other than LQ, so i assume its FVM effect, because only FVM insight speaks of bringing something to others. Now all three is sorted lets see the 'pairings'.
AM -Sincerity is the measure by which the worthiness of the self and ones guests should be measured.
In addition, when within a space Ling Qi considers to be 'hers' she receives a half rank bonus to Social Perception.
FSS -There are endings and Endings, only the very last one is final. Just as winter ends in spring, small endings are new beginnings
So long as at least one such ally is in the scene with Ling Qi she receives a half rank bonus to resisting or avoiding effects which would induce immobility or helplessness.
FVM-Though a path might be hard and lonely, it has worth if you can present something of beauty to those you care for at the end.
Allies in a scene with whom Ling Qi has at least four ranks of positive relation receive a one rank bonus to Spiritual Avoid, Armor and Combat Perception(Boosted Rank cannot exceed Ling Qi's).
And now its finally easier to see what means what.
AM Insight speaks about measuring yourself and others with sincerity, with social means and it gives us half rank of Soc. Perception, but with condition that LQ is within a space she considers to be 'hers', i assume that it tied to word 'guests' which associated with Home, some other space that is yours.
Mostly simple but it's uncertain what LQ counts as 'hers' space, does it means her home?, her family home?, stage where she performs on Cai's parties?, space near her friends?, or maybe her Mist? Hard to answer, we need more information here.
FSS insight is tough one, i wasn't able to interpret it at first, LQ own thoughts helped me.
Failures and losses could not and would not end her path, in other words she refuses to allow small endings that isn't death to hinder her
path. So small endings hear is something that stoping you from new beginings, effects which would induce immobility or helplessness and LQ decision to refuse them gives her half rank bonus to resisting or avoiding these effects.
I am not really happy with this one, to many narrative to interpret narrative and i can't completely understand where it's condition of high SL with you coming from, but it still gives us some information and understanding.
FVM Insight is more straightforward, it tells as about hardship and presenting something to those you care about. Now that is quite simple you present something means - giving some bonuses (full rank) to your high SL, what bonuses? The ones we needed the most in our hardships - Spiritual Avoid, Armor and Combat Perception.
FVM is really interesting it gives us much needed context about several things about our Domain.
-It's our only 'supportive' insight, it says about giving something to others and it does just that. I think it would be easy to distinct such 'supportive' insights from more 'selfish' ones in the future. Why is that important?
-Because FVM insight gives our SL4's full rank bonuses instead of half rank, yes with condition (that boosted they can't exceed LQ's own) but all our Insights work with conditions. It really says something about our Domain that our 'supportive' insight gives overwhelmingly more and better bonuses than 'selfish' ones (3 full rank bonuses instead of one or two half rank).
-Also all of our bonuses are defensive or utility in nature. Our Domain (at least for now) doesn't gives us or our allies attacking bonuses or space control, or something else. No. Just defensive or utility bonuses and just for LQ and Tier 4 or higher SL. And that's it.
-Finally all of Domain effects has conditions. AM need space that LQ consider 'hers', FSS requires at least one high SL nearby, FVM bonused stats cannot exceed LQ's. I think it's reasonable to assume that our future insights would have their own conditions.
I think in the future we need to chose insights more carefully. Now that we have some understanding about them we can make more educated guesses at what new insights mean. For me i think i would vote mostly for 'supportive' insights, because LQ never alone. Now we have Tier 4 SL only with Zhengui, but in the future it would be also Sixiang and (if she survived) Hanyi + any allies that we have strong SL with. But i would also vote for some 'selfish' insights too, if we can boost our stats in presence of our SL, and boost their stats in return even more. Than we can create the most fair, fruitful and healthy way for our Domain to function.
- Location
- US
[X] You have not spent enough time with your family. The new help should be settled in, so spend some time with your mother and sister. In the wake of your growing insights, you need to think about what family truly means.
- Location
- Somewhere
- Pronouns
- They/Them
So thinking about it, I've come to a realization. We are looking to bind Hanyi, and we already have Sixiang and Zhengui. We have the makings for a pretty awesome group here, and it only needs one thing. It'll be a sacrifice for him, but a necessary one. Zhengui needs to accept music into his heart and learn to play the drums. Then we can have Hanyi on vocals, Ling Qi on flute and back-up vocalist, Sixiang on air guitar, and Zhengui on drums. Zhen can use Gui as the drum, obviously, and provide pyrotechnics.
We will be legendary.
We will be legendary.
DeAnno
Sometimes words have two meanings
Gui can be the drum, Zhen can be the drummer.
TimEd
Meteor maker
Oooor, Zhen can be the marracas but instead of the normal instrument, either makes a rattlesnake tail version, or uses his sizzling as the music. Heck Zhen could just hiss musically.
Gui on the other hand, has lots of possibilities. He can make castanet expys, wood blocks (its an instrument), beat box, and possibly sing bass.
Gui on the other hand, has lots of possibilities. He can make castanet expys, wood blocks (its an instrument), beat box, and possibly sing bass.
- Location
- UK
The funny thing is, although Zhengui playing the drums is a bit silly, if we got another spirit or beast which was drums based (or just caused vibrations in the earth or something and could be similar) then had Zhengui be the stage and pyrotechnics we would legitimately be able to pull this off. Sixiang could more seriously go down a music route and be an off-choir or something with air manipulation making many voices, and would be a walking orchestra, completely seriously.
And no one would ever be able to tell if we did this deliberately or not.
TimEd
Meteor maker
Why couldnt we have just picked that Night Parade one! Im still sad that wasnt chosen. Wpuld have been the perfect excuse to go full ham on the music.
Best part of all, would be the fact that there are no disjointed (at least conpletely disjointed) build in music. All things can be excuses to have 'experience' and variety in musical displays.
Best part of all, would be the fact that there are no disjointed (at least conpletely disjointed) build in music. All things can be excuses to have 'experience' and variety in musical displays.
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Akik
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- Location
- Mt. Morninglight
[X] The situation between Zeqing and Hanyi is deteriorating. You have mastered her lessons and her art. The time for a tribulation is here, and perhaps it can solve the terrible situation forming before your eyes.
Hanyis are not for eating!
Hanyis are not for eating!
As our insight change with every domain rank up we get different mechanical effects so a focus on the narrative choice is very good.
There is a total of 4 rank up (3 rank up and 2 half rank up). As we have three insight and the base domain, we can reasonnably expect each insight(and domain) to give a rank up.
As such, base domain should give half a rank in both spiritual avoid and spiritual armor, AM half a rank on perception combat and the social half rank up, FSS is half rank up on resist and half a rank up on spiritual armor or spiritual avoid and FVM is half a rank up on perception combat and half a rank up on either spiritual armor or avoid.
So I've been thinking about PLR a little bit. One of the more obvious techniques that may develop is a 'swap' tech. Maybe swapping us with one of our illusory dancers, maybe swapping us with opposition that we've invited to the dance, so to speak. What's more interesting than that, I think, is thinking on how the effect would be accomplished within the context of the Art itself.
Such a swap technique could just throw people around physically, but that's a) not very impressive and b) certain to be very ineffective against high level cultivators and especially the esoteric attacks they tend to throw around that you would actually want to use the technique against. If you look at the Art's description, we see that it is the recollection of revelry interfacing with reality as a dream might. Memories are unreliable, memories formed during revelry are unreliable, and dreams are unreliable.
I suggest that a place-swap technique would operate on the basis of manifesting a misremembrance through our qi construct, retroactively. The technique itself is the sobering realization of the error, a misleading faux-lucidity imposed on the world by contrast with the technique's region of intoxicating revelry. Basically what I'm saying is PLR makes space drunk and overly credulous which lets the user convince physical location that it totally got those two people confused while it was plastered and chatting up that cute wood sprite.
Such a swap technique could just throw people around physically, but that's a) not very impressive and b) certain to be very ineffective against high level cultivators and especially the esoteric attacks they tend to throw around that you would actually want to use the technique against. If you look at the Art's description, we see that it is the recollection of revelry interfacing with reality as a dream might. Memories are unreliable, memories formed during revelry are unreliable, and dreams are unreliable.
I suggest that a place-swap technique would operate on the basis of manifesting a misremembrance through our qi construct, retroactively. The technique itself is the sobering realization of the error, a misleading faux-lucidity imposed on the world by contrast with the technique's region of intoxicating revelry. Basically what I'm saying is PLR makes space drunk and overly credulous which lets the user convince physical location that it totally got those two people confused while it was plastered and chatting up that cute wood sprite.