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Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)
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- North Wales
- Pronouns
- He/Him/His
For the latter half of the speech, sure. But reading this part
with its heel click and blinding radiance and Shenhua's general Ragyo-ness, I can't imagine anything but Blumenkranz playing over the start of the speech.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnIrIDwRMxM&t=105
Tbf, back in the day having children produced by the combination of male and female essences was a radical concept, in that it was a thing at all. And the Stars were as outraged by it and considered it to be an abomination in a way I suspect will be quite similar to more conservative minds in the Empire will be outraged.
Forget Meizhen, imagine Qingling, who already idolized Shenhua for not giving a fuck about what other people thought, etc.
Now Shenhua goes ahead and shows that Qingling can have her dream with Meizhen.
Shenhua is iconic. She is so cool.
ImperatorV
The Laughing One
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- The Voyaging Realm
Eh, even if she went full "fuck tradition" I don't think Meizhen would marry Qingling. Why? Same reason Meizhen did not want Ling Qi as a handmaiden - the Bai pounce on weakness. And Qingling's neurodivergence is one heck of a weakness. Seriously, Qingling can get fucked over by people who are well intentioned but don't try to understand her, imagine how bad things could be if a whole group was explicitly targeting her issues.
I don't think Meizhen would ever accept that outcome, so marriage is probably a no-go even if the Bai got onboard with the gay rights agenda... Which is not likely. They're a conservative lot.
Cecylene
Eternal Idea Engine
- Location
- Massachusetts
- Pronouns
- He/They
My guess is that Tienli is human, but not new in the sense most would imagine a baby to be.
My guess is that Shenhua took a piece of her own being and a piece of Lingqin's and cracked them enough that they could be effectively "filtered" through a spiritually neutral third party entity/object.
With the right elixirs/medicines to make a part of you count as "male" or "female" and then run that part through Shenhua's process and boom you have what is effectively a new born child that is 100% human if a human that required a detour or two to get there.
My guess is that Shenhua took a piece of her own being and a piece of Lingqin's and cracked them enough that they could be effectively "filtered" through a spiritually neutral third party entity/object.
With the right elixirs/medicines to make a part of you count as "male" or "female" and then run that part through Shenhua's process and boom you have what is effectively a new born child that is 100% human if a human that required a detour or two to get there.
Alright so the important part is Renxiang simply cannot comprehend the logic behind what Shenhua is doing here, and that makes sense as while Sixiang wonder about some clever plan I think the truth is pretty simple. The fact is Shenhua does not care about the collateral damage of her next Revolution, and while the Hui were the primary focus everyone liked, but as Shenhua noted to Renxiang this won't lost forever.
Actually this make me wonder how will the Horned Legion play into the inevitable rebellion? Because it would make sense if she is planning to outfit them with gear produced from the new tribute from down below, and this might be meant to give them a sense of loyalty to something above their count clans, which gives Shenhua an army that is much less fragile than her elite unit. So it is an army meant to insure you need more than a White, and a bunch of high level cultivators to take down Shenhua.
Frankly while people have mentioned the problems the Wang will face an even bigger problem is their notably young group of vassals who likely compromise decent chunk of the army with the understanding that while it sucks in hard times like war you need to buckle down for the common good, and while the pay is good for Barons having say an extra Green tier cultivator around is crucial for new nobility, which presumes the one sent wasn't the heir to insure all those valuable common cultivators come home alive.
So the Wang are liable to be an awkward place where a whole lot of their low ranking vassals are very much so going out on a limb for them, and they can't really do anything obvious to fix the situation without losing Face.
This was basically Renxiang confirming that Shenhua will continue to burn political goodwill on similar things for the sake of Revolution, and this will continue with little regard for the political consequences of doing so. This is liable to divide the Emerald Seas between those will continue to support Shenhua in part due to their Ways being shaped in a beneficial manner from her Revolutions, and those who oppose her, which is likely one reason for the Horned Legion as it protects her Order from being chipped away at due to all the blow-back Shenhua will continue to generate.
Also Shenhua is a terrible mother for reminding her daughter of how Shenhua intentionally traumatized Renxiang for the Revolution news at 11.
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- The United States
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- He/They
That's awesome.
Heaven and Earth say that Cai Shenhua cannot stand next to the woman she loves, but Cai Shenhua refuses to stand on such an Earth or underneath such a Heaven.
Heaven and Earth say that Cai Shenhua cannot stand next to the woman she loves, but Cai Shenhua refuses to stand on such an Earth or underneath such a Heaven.
So, can we engineer Dharitri being the flower girl for the wedding?
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- scrabbling
"So now I must take responsibility..."
lol admit that you cheated as a snide little sneak in
it's one thing if 'everyone knows' but it remains on the side, it's another to announce it and go on the record
lol admit that you cheated as a snide little sneak in
it's one thing if 'everyone knows' but it remains on the side, it's another to announce it and go on the record
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- California
Diversity Win! The radiant goddess of oppression who governs you is marrying a woman!
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TimEd
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How would the Bai, who strained so hard against any change, react?
How were the Bai, who strained so hard against any change, going to react?
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Huh. Cai Shenhua did a different version of Rebelling against the Heavens than expected.
kinigget
Best Demon
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- People's Republic of Portland
I appreciate that people are excited about this, and it is pretty cool, but it is definitely worth remembering how Shenhua functions. This was all calculated as an attack, because Shenhua is incapable of doing anything else. This will definitely have lasting repercussions.
TimEd
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Hence her announcing this only after everyone examined Tienli. If nobody spoke up about it back then (Shenhua even needled them by talking about the praise the baby got) despite everyone of them being given the chance to meet the baby, then any complaints they make after the announcement will be worse than hollow. It will be a Lie set to be seared off by the Pittiless Truth of Shenhua's Light.
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Mmm, the name of the army - the Horned Legion - is also interesting because it's a clear homage to the Weilu, and a signal that it's intended to be an Emerald Seas institution, not an imperial one.
Shenhua is very much not a traditionalist, and her powerbase stems more from the young modernisers who tend to lean Peakaboo, but she's respecting the ES tradition and repurposing it for herself anyway. Is she working with the direction Renxiang's taken things here? Is she just good at playing the political game? Who knows?
Shenhua is very much not a traditionalist, and her powerbase stems more from the young modernisers who tend to lean Peakaboo, but she's respecting the ES tradition and repurposing it for herself anyway. Is she working with the direction Renxiang's taken things here? Is she just good at playing the political game? Who knows?
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- The Star Kingdom of Manticore
I agree with you that it is an homage to the weilu, but I also think it is an homage to a very specific set of Weilu. I think this is an homage to the group that slew the beast gods. A large group of people each arriving from all over the ES to Xiangman. Training under Xiangman. Fighting 'for' Xiangman.
The fight against the beast gods were likely the last the the Weilu were very truly united in something. We know that they were many tribes, and that fought each other as a matter of course. It is likely that the last time an army was gathered from across the ES and for the ES and for a singular purpose was the fight against the beast gods.
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- USA
- Pronouns
- He/His/Him
Qingling's neurodivergence can be seen as a particularity of her way or path of cultivation. Also many of the Bai white snake caste would likely be considered neurodivergent. Their entire social structure and clan are very different from any other imperial group we have seen so far. They appear to act very animalistic: extremely territorial, absolutely unforgiving of slights against them, encourage dangerous and painful competition between children, ect.
So while Qingling is different due to being neurodivergent, I don't think many of the white snake Bai would see that as a weakness. Arguably many of them would like her because of that.
I think the main issue with her is that she is a outsider. She isn't even from their region or an ancient clan like the Imperial family.
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- Staring into the void
Qingling knows how to set boundaries, has high quality poisons, and has the weight of the Bao name in addition to the favour of Meizhen. LQ would have only had the favour of Meizhen.
My gut feeling is that this is what was on Shenhua's mind when she made Cyan.
Back when she was a disciple and Linqin an Elder.
The whole overthrowing government thing was more of later added context when she needed to adapt a Way intended to let Truth and Love shine through cultural norms and physical limitations so she can have gay babies into something that can overthrow a government.
Fuck forbidden love. Throughly!
One kind of revolution for another.
Suppresses urge to burst out in Team Rocket motto
Back when she was a disciple and Linqin an Elder.
The whole overthrowing government thing was more of later added context when she needed to adapt a Way intended to let Truth and Love shine through cultural norms and physical limitations so she can have gay babies into something that can overthrow a government.
Fuck forbidden love. Throughly!
One kind of revolution for another.
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- UK
I eagerly await Snake and Spider reaching this point in the timeline. Hell, I eagerly await the next Meizhen appearance.
I also assume the wedding is gonna be another event? I am the Great Spirit of Eager.
I also assume the wedding is gonna be another event? I am the Great Spirit of Eager.
I hope at least now Linqin will be there to protect Tienli the way Renxiang didn't think she could. Linqin did have a complicated relationship with her last marriage and children, so it's not guaranteed, but we can only hope she cares for Tienli like she does Shenhua. Children like Tienli and Biyu should be spared the hardships that formed their half-sisters, for all that Shenhua will want to turn her youngest daughter as well. Maybe this will be good for Renxiang as well, if her sister at least had someone capable of protecting her from the worst of it.