Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)

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I didn't care but if it's to break a tie I'll throw my own vote in, based of a die role. High I go pen, low I go blades.

[X] Clockwork Blades (Cai Renxiang, Xia Lin, Xia Ren)
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Zhengui, it's fine to have some selfish motivations to you know?
selfish motivations, too, you know?
I, Zhen am meant to reign
I, Zhen, am meant
Hanyi often joined her at night, if not to cultivate than at least to compose.
then
Although, Ling Qi found herself musing for Hanyi and in the future, Ling Qi those two things might not be so different.
Although, Ling Qi found herself musing, for Hanyi and, in the future, herself those two things might not be so different.

"This is something that makes you happy, and I want to be part of that," Ling Qi said firmly. There really didn't need to be any more to it than that.

It took a second for Zhengui to answer as they walked along the shore. When he did though, it was in two voices. "Okay."

But, despite the fact that she had her answer, Ling Qi still felt dissatisfaction. Because whatever her intentions were, Ling Qi knew that she had fumbled things many times, causing pain where she hadn't intended. In the end, were good intentions really enough? "You said something earlier, about not having a place. Is that why you want to do this?"

"Gui wants to make a pretty place for everyone," he replied, and flowers bloomed in the dark loam around his feet.

It wasn't a lie exactly, but it wasn't the whole truth either. "Zhengui, it's fine to have some selfish motivations, too, you know?" Ling Qi said gently.

The flowers withered, replaced by creeping vines spreading in a quick mat through the dirt. "The sect is too small," Gui muttered.

"I, Zhen, am meant to reign," Zhen hissed. "But I am also too small. There are many big kings and no room for Zhen."

Ling Qi frowned. Even once she had her fief, she was still going to be subordinate to the Cai. She didn't see that changing. Even if she fantasized a scenario where she had the power, she would be a terrible duchess. Mostly because she didn't even want to be one. "We're never going to be the ones completely in charge of things."

Zhen shook his head as they turned back toward the core of the island. "No, Sister does not understand. It is not about human things."

"Gui isn't renewing anything," he said, his voice tinged with frustration. Yet some part of his words resonated in the Dream, an echo of something more than mere sound.

Ling Qi was silent for some minutes as they both regarded the dark soil. From her thoughts grew slender pines, resilient and green even in the depths of cold. Around their roots bloomed flowers of spring quick to live and quick to die.

…Maybe she had been misunderstanding Zhengui.

"Hey, little brother," Ling Qi said thoughtfully. "Will you explain what you mean?"

Gui looked up from his flowers in confusion. "What does Big Sister mean?"

"Renewal, what does that mean to you?" Ling Qi asked. She watched silvery ice spread across the branches, making the eaves hang low.

Gui's eyes scrunched shut in thought. "It's new things growing from old things."

"It's not about recovery and endurance?" Ling Qi asked.

"That is part of it," Gui said. "But Gui thinks it is more important for things to grow back even after they are ash."

"Old things choke new things, with hungry roots and heavy leaves," Zhen said. "Without destruction comes stagnation."

"Without renewal, destruction is stagnation too," Gui said huffily.

Ling Qi nodded absently as the two of them stared each other down. It did come down to that didn't it. Zhengui was very hard to hurt, it was true, but the real thing that had allowed him to endure enemies so much above him was his regeneration.

Really, had she been thinking too hard all this time? She knew well the nature of the world, a chain of endings, each followed by a beginning. A forest fire cleared old growth and made room for new, and a glacier crushed all beneath in their advance, but left behind clear land in their retreat. It was the same concept, expressed through different elements and frames of time.

Ling Qi eyed the trees she had crafted, and let them wither away into dream mist.

"Sister?" Gui asked, looking up at her.

"Sorry, I was just thinking that I'd like to try something a little different is all," Ling Qi replied. "If I mess up, I'll apologize in advance."

"No apologies," Zhen insisted. "We practice now, so we don't break real things."

"I suppose we do," Ling Qi mused.


***​


In the end, they didn't make much progress that first night. Ling Qi wasn't sure what she was doing, toying with meltwater and moving ice, but she felt like she was on to something, even if she wasn't quite sure what yet.

As the days passed, Ling Qi cultivated where she could as the Sect's forces moved on, stealing moments to meditate on cliffsides and trees under the light of the moon. It felt strange, after so long using her Argent Vent and other cultivation sites, the cycling of her qi felt almost sluggish. Still, with focus and some help from Li Suyin's meridian wand, she managed to painstakingly clear three more meridians, giving her more avenues to channel the increasingly complex patterns of her arts.

Hanyi often joined her at night, if not to cultivate then at least to compose. Although, Ling Qi found herself musing, for Hanyi and, in the future, herself those two things might not be so different.

During the day, she mostly continued assisting Gan Guangli and Zhengui. As the first week of travel passed, here and there they ran into conflict, hostile spirits, minor groups of barbarians trying to slip around and sabotage their lines and such, but nothing truly worrying.

Well, unless you counted the continued tension in the roiling clouds overhead. The Sect Head was clearly at full alert, and yet those small problems slipped through. His attention was obviously elsewhere, and that was at least a little worrying.

Still, they had reached the site of the new fort, and in the morning, she would be meeting Cai Renxiang and the others before they split off from the main force.

The easy part was over.

Spiritual Cultivation | 1556 Dice
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Rerolling 161 mean: 155.60000000000002 standard deviation: 11.83
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958 Successes mean: 933.5999999999999 standard deviation: 28.99

1871/6000

+2 Spine Meridians, +1 Head Meridian


Please Vote for the arc end interlude. The character listed first is the viewpoint
[] Clockwork Blades (Cai Renxiang, Xia Lin, Xia Ren)
[] Worth of the Pen (Meng Dan, Cai Renxiang)
[] Heroes and Soldiers (Xia Lin, Gan Guangli)

AN: Not... wholly satisfied with the length here. I won't make excuses but yeah, shitty week.
Sorry for the full day delay but yesterday was kinda stressful.
As for the vote, none of the options really strike me as being more or less interesting, so I'll sit out this vote :Ü™
 
It has been mentioned before, but Ling Qi and her allies carry the archetypes and manner of Xianxia antagonists more than they do Xianxia protagonists. Even from a shounen perspective, Han Jian or Xiulan would be the protagonist rather than either Ling Qi or CRX.

This is an critical part of what makes "nega verse" interpretations of Ling Qi so fascinating, as well as why she fits so well in the narrative of an antagonist for various crossover image. Kill La Kill being the example that is trotted out frequently, with Ling Qi having a great deal in common with Nui Harime when it comes how her opponents see her and how brutal fighting against Ling Qi is for the unprepared, all while acting far more like Nonan when it comes to spending time with CRX and her role amongst the Retainers.

Forge/Threads of Destiny is precisely what a Start of Darkness story would look like in any other typical Xianxia/shounen storyline and I for one love it.

Eh, it really depends. The only anti-archetype thing here is siding with the order character, as those are usually depicted as villains, but apart from that, it is pretty common for team "uses evil tropes but are the goodish guys/protagonists" to exist in both shonen and xianxia. Could use a thousand xianxia examples. It is usually order that is the villain most of all. And CRX is far, far from the stereotypical orrder character, because the stereotypical order character is evil cuz they are either uncompromising*, tyranical or hypocritical (often all 3), and CRX is really none of those.

uncompromising as in unheeding of those beneath them and of the realities of the world, "all crimes deserve the death penalty no excuses no searching for root of problems", not as in uncompromising in their morals, most good characters are the second but almost solely villains are the first.

Something to note is that the kid's grandfather is arguably more important as the head of the Violet house of the Bai. Heavenly Peak would definitely think that at least, and likely most other provinces too. It's just that who of the two have better standing doesn't really matter in the outer sect.

Que? A ducal clan is more important than a count clan, no matter what, and the Bai's are Ducals, so they win on the absolute numbers (remember, the Bai hold WMD's and a long history of secrets). Xiao Fen is an extremly gifted Bai, given that she was given as a pairing to a very favoured White Bai, and is, as said, in the service of the most favoured white Bai, while the count grandson is trash and is probably extremely unimportant to his clan, so Bai win the relative match too. It is also implied that the particular count clan is on the weaker side of counts. So n

Just once I'd like "Do you know who my mother is?!"

Crx doesn't even need to say it, no?

And if Azula had pulled an ancient supertechnique out of her ass to kill Ozai and make herself phoenix queen, she would have been a textbook xianxia protagonist too. Her personality fits like a glove.

Nah, being fillial to their parents is the one thing even the most sociopathic xianxia protags have in common, even when it makes litle sense, so she wouldn't have done that.
 
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