The Lords of Ruin -- Battletech/Killzone
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[X] Plan Actually Airtight
EOD personnel can and actually do move suspect (potentially explosive) devices, they just do it very carefully/gently. Usually it is safer to just evacuate the area and detonate the device in a controlled manner but not always. It is a matter of risk mitigation and judgement. Is it more dangerous for one type of explosive to go off in the place it is or is it more to move it, that is the question we are grappling with here. Ultimately it is a judgement call which to do and is what we are voting on.
EOD personnel can and actually do move suspect (potentially explosive) devices, they just do it very carefully/gently. Usually it is safer to just evacuate the area and detonate the device in a controlled manner but not always. It is a matter of risk mitigation and judgement. Is it more dangerous for one type of explosive to go off in the place it is or is it more to move it, that is the question we are grappling with here. Ultimately it is a judgement call which to do and is what we are voting on.
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[X] Plan Actually Airtight
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[X] Plan Actually Airtight
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About the only thing i can try is we don't have to try to move the pucks because they are already in a somewhat contained space of the unfinished building and there is no immediate danger to the public where they are. Building a Ad-hoc environment is adding barriers or seals incase these are not explosives. the Adhoc allows for remote checking with our drones thus limiting the danger of personal.
The big thing is we don't know what the Pucks are which makes moving them a big risk and they are already in a semi-contained environment.
So the question becomes how much are you wiling to roll the dice and I think leaving them in place and setting up an ad-hoc environment is the best thing we can do at this time because it minimizes the most risk at this point.
The big thing is we don't know what the Pucks are which makes moving them a big risk and they are already in a semi-contained environment.
So the question becomes how much are you wiling to roll the dice and I think leaving them in place and setting up an ad-hoc environment is the best thing we can do at this time because it minimizes the most risk at this point.
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...I think something went wrong cause I'm pretty sure that more then 3 people voted.
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Lmao. I'll fix it
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This one took a while to count for some reason. Could be why the scheduled count failed.
Was going to suggest some minor modifications to the plan, but voting closed.
Also, just read through all of this over the week; sick thread!
Also, just read through all of this over the week; sick thread!
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Konstantine
Deciding that it would be impossible to guarantee a completely sealed environment with an ad hoc setup, task force leadership on the ground in Konstantine city made the decision to have the pucks analysed inside a mobile isolation chamber. While moving the pucks through the unfinished apartment complex would naturally risk premature detonation, the presence of bioreactors in both Pyrrus and Konstantine made chemical/biological containment a priority and few were willing to risk an accidental release due to hasty workarounds. Thankfully, fears that moving the pucks might trigger that self-same release proved unfounded with the unknown devices brought to a street-level isolation chamber without issue.
The dissection that followed lasted only a few minutes even with the personnel involved taking every precaution necessary; teleoperated arms carefully disassembling the devices while cameras throughout the chamber recorded each and every component. Despite well-founded fears over anti-tamper mechanisms and backup triggers, the design of the puck-shaped devices proved to be incredibly simple in mechanical terms; enough so that only a single trigger was identified. Largely made of off the shelf materials, the devices turned out to be CO2-powered aerosolizers triggered by a simple switch mechanism located on top of the device. Featuring a reservoir of a yet-to-be-determined clear liquid, the pucks are without a doubt some kind of chemical/biological agent delivery system intended to disperse its principal agent throughout quite a volume of space. Though empirical testing is impossible for obvious reasons, estimates indicate that a single puck could fill a 10mx10m room with aerosolized particles in only a few seconds and several such devices in the wrong place could expose hundreds to thousands of people to all manners of substances.
Pyrrus
Now with a better handle on what they were dealing with thanks to the recovery and analysis of a chemical/biological agent dispersal system in Konstantine, task force leadership in Pyrrus ordered numerous hospitals throughout the city to prepare isolation wards in preparation for the worst-case scenario. Having brought the prime minister and several other government officials into the loop by this point, the order to do so largely went unquestioned, however, it swiftly became impossible to hide the preparations from the public and media. Though an admirable job had been done to limit leaks to the public, the centre could not hold forever and the knowledge that major hospitals in Pyrrus were preparing for a mass casualty event triggered a fresh round of questions and rumours with a disturbing number featuring Mandate spies/terrorists/criminals/what have you indicating that someone, somewhere, had talked.
Meanwhile, at the centre of the crisis, police patrolling Pyrrus' central mall were ordered to begin an evacuation of the area --a dangerous gas leak given as the reason why. Unfortunately for those hoping for the swift and unproblematic removal of civilians, the sheer size of the crowd of evening revellers combined with the small number of police meant that the evacuation was slow going even as more and more officers filtered into the mall. Despite the efforts of all involved, there were still well over a hundred civilians in the area by the time the Gendarmes arrived; the sudden appearance of Overlord dropships overhead causing the slowly moving crowd to suddenly pullback in a panic.
Deploying faster than they ever had before, the first of the Gendarmes were only halfway to the ground when Subject Gamma emerged from a nearby alley and threw a puck into the retreating mass of humanity. Despite being caught between their dropship and the ground, the Gendarmes on the static lines opened fire on the hostile agent and gunned her down before she could throw a second such device. As her body fell to the ground, the puck clutched in her hand venting streamers of white mist in all directions, a pistol-wielding Subject Zeta emerged from the shadowed alley with a second puck ready to throw. With speed born of desperation three airborne Gendarmes, two Republic intelligence agents mixed in with the police, and the door gunner of an Overlord dropship opened fire on the hostile spy with every weapon at their disposal. In the blink of an eye, Subject Zeta was riddled with everything from 9mm pistol rounds to 12.7mm heavy machine gun rounds; the man dying almost before he could throw his grenade. Almost.
To the credit of those whose job it is to ponder such things, the intentional release of a chemical or biological agent into a crowd of civilians was not an event that had gone without thought. As such, though hundreds of people were suddenly and unexpectedly exposed to an unknown chemical/biological weapon in the middle of the Republic's capital, containment procedures began within seconds of exposure and with credible efficiency. Police and Gendarmes already on the scene were hastily instructed to both halt the movement of other exposed individuals and to recover the dispersal systems, while their non-exposed comrades were ordered to set up a hard perimeter around the area and lock it down. Simultaneously, an emergency alert was issued to every mobile device in the city informing their owners of an ongoing security threat in the city centre and urging them to stay indoors and cooperate with authorities until the all-clear was given. To keep panic from spiralling out of control, the city's mayor, having been in the loop since the beginning, announced that a press conference would be held in twenty minutes followed shortly after by a similar conference from the Prime Minister.
Meanwhile, military forces in the bases ringing Pyrrus, already on alert due to earlier events, were ordered into the city to help secure the site and to provide aid and assistance to city hospitals. Similarly, hospitals across Helghan were put on alert to prepare to both receive patients and dispatch aid in the form of medical personnel and supplies, and a number of trusted journalists whose inquiries had previously been gently gladhanded suddenly found themselves being contacted by very senior figures asking for a favour. All told, by the time the initial shock had worn off and the people exposed began to wonder what precisely had happened, wheels were already well in motion; though few realised at the time just how fearful the next 90 days would prove...
To Be Continued.
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I decided to split it into two updates because it's more dramatic this way. 
You should get the next bit by the end of the week and then we'll be back with our regularly scheduled programming since there's no need for further voting at this point. Y'all actually did very well despite some really bad rolls. I was fully prepared to do Some Shit as @VhenRa is aware, but decent choices and plain good luck means that things aren't terrible, though you were somewhat let down right at the finish line.
You should get the next bit by the end of the week and then we'll be back with our regularly scheduled programming since there's no need for further voting at this point. Y'all actually did very well despite some really bad rolls. I was fully prepared to do Some Shit as @VhenRa is aware, but decent choices and plain good luck means that things aren't terrible, though you were somewhat let down right at the finish line.
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well shit...no intel, we got chemical agented...(looks like wars on the horizon, and we will have to aim for total military destruction of the mandate then if they are responsible for this bullshit...how many times must be they be punched in their metaphorical reproductive parts BEFORE they learn their fricken lesson!?!)
while we did get the guys in the end, god-damn this is going to be a shit-show.
while we did get the guys in the end, god-damn this is going to be a shit-show.
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Well they didn't drop the things in the main water supply or have a suitcase nuke on hand so if we contain the infected here this went alright. We kept our deadly murder rocks under lock and key along with our state secrets even if people panicking is going to be a pain that stokes unnecessary paranoia.
Considering the gear, training, and their goals to access our OCP/advanced technologies my money is still on a ROM operation. The Mandate has much bigger problems and no reason to break out the heavily frowned upon chemical/biological agents. That kind of thing will have serious consequences is traced back, the kind that make damaging some tiny rim nation completely not worth it.
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Could be Maskirovka could be Com*
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Well that ended about as expected. Hope we got some good spin doctors in the house.
Still tentons will be pretty high.
Still tentons will be pretty high.
Left field bet: Comstar buying leftover Mask/Capellan specops supportfor their own with either money or goods through intermediaries. Capellans fought Helghan gear before in the hands of the Taurians and so they know just how dangerous having a hostile power while weakened is. In a bid to get the Republic angery at one of their fellow splinter states and spend a great deal of blood and treasure on some kind of reprisal.
This kind of unique attack vector is setting me off, why the fuck where they here, what the fuck were the pucks for? what was in them? what was the ultimate goal? too many unknowns, i'd be running every single secured facility we have through a damn detailed security sweep right about now.
Still betting on Space AT@T, everyone else would have just gone with nukes or conventionals.
Still betting on Space AT@T, everyone else would have just gone with nukes or conventionals.
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If it's a chemical agent, I'll consider us lucky. If it's biological and infectious...
Well, Helghan society seems a lot more capable of a truly effective quarantine than our society in real life, so maybe things wouldn't be so bad. Any disease can be stopped if you just don't give it the opportunity to spread.
Which reminds me, is the city already under quarantine? If not, it needs to be, even if it's just for a day or two. Nobody enters or leaves until we now what it is that was just released.
Also, I'm increasingly certain this is C*'s work. Too sophisticated for the Mandate, and we shouldn't be important enough to them for something like this.
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An argument in favour of it being the mandate is that the Helghan republic got they're curiosity during the war. They came to find out what we've got and steal whatever they could. HR being a periphery state, they may consider any action we take in response inconsequential. Inner Sphere ego that nothing outside could be a threat now that they are no longer in a war with 2 other IS states.
That said, ROM being the driving force behind this if the Mandate is involved or not is incredibly likely.
I can't wait to see which way the GM goes with this. Be funny if it was just a pissed off group of pirates or the families from Portland or something (who am I kidding it's COMSTAR).
That said, ROM being the driving force behind this if the Mandate is involved or not is incredibly likely.
I can't wait to see which way the GM goes with this. Be funny if it was just a pissed off group of pirates or the families from Portland or something (who am I kidding it's COMSTAR).
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Um, doesn't Helgans already walk around with protective gear on them? So I'm kind of wondering how effective those pucks will be.
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hey yeah... Can any of this stuff be worse than half the planet getting irradiated Petrusite spread over it? Would a weaponised virus even be able to survive Helghasts atmosphere? Maybe it'll be like a quick clean up over the weekend for the guys who cleared out the nuked remains of Pyrrhus City.