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The Lords of Ruin -- Battletech/Killzone

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Mal-3 said:
and if there was enough clear space between Housekarle and the nearest Mandate world of Nihal the borders would touch but the Fedrats hold Grand Base and the Mariks hold Wright, and those claims on actual, operational worlds are enough to force the Capellan/Mandate borders back from each other.
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You know,i realized a worst case situation for the war is well, the Outback exploding the Mandate also doing something Trash fire worthy. Meaning that in the context of the war....the Fedsuns can make the excuse that the Cappelans need to be kicked in the teeth for being our allies (Also some propaganda of them wanting their worlds back while the Fedsuns are busy), so while we are dealing with the outback the Confederation would get piled on for being our close allies, along with the Mandate.

In turn, we'll be given a choice: focus on the outback and the Taurians and ensure Hesek is brought to justice, or intervene on the Cappelan's behalf so all out work getting them industrialized doesn't go down the drain, or worse, integrated into the Federated suns. Sure we could do both, we got the warships and fleet for that, but it would be a nightmare to do so. The only thing that woudl make such a war worse is this kicking off a 5th successor war.

That being the Dracs invading the Suns and the Lyrans invading the dracs to prevent them from eating to much of the suns while the FWL double teams the Lyrans and the soft underbelly of the Mandate on their boarder. All the while the Cepplans are utterly surrounded, and the Outback is increasingly on fire.

If this quest was a battletech story written by said writers and campaign designers that's what i expect to happen. So unless were that unlucky we should be fine. Really it just boils down to tackling each problem 1 at a time. Or else things will spiral out of control fast.

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Edit: On a side note anyone know the heck is going on with the Tikonov Free Republic? Or is it safe to say their just unofficial region of the Fedsuns that they can just annex at a moment notice? Becouse im pretty sure he haven't heard head or toe of that place in over 5 years now if not more in game.
 
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Aztez Fan said:
In turn, we'll be given a choice: focus on the outback and the Taurians and ensure Hesek is brought to justice, or intervene on the Cappelan's behalf so all out work getting them industrialized doesn't go down the drain, or worse, integrated into the Federated suns. Sure we could do both, we got the warships and fleet for that, but it would be a nightmare to do so. The only thing that woudl make such a war worse is this kicking off a 5th successor war.
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The thing is if the Suns are attacking the Capellans it is going to be mostly Hasek's forces doing it.
 
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pretty sure if the Combine invades it automatically takes priority in terms of troop deployment every single time over sending forces to invade the Capellans , so if the Draks do make a move and the Turaians make one on the other side of the FedSuns then the Capellans should have a free hand to take back stuff from the FedSuns
 
Mal-3 said:
Hey kids. Had a little free time this morning so I did some cruel & unusual things to a spreadsheet and when the dust cleared I had this:



Viola! The Inner Sphere as it ought to look in the year of our lord 3045, just before the Davion Hilarity kicks off.

Now, if QM @prometheus110 wishes it so, I will happily hand off the raw SVG file from which this image is derived and is... you know... legible. Cos I'm a nice guy like that. :)

xoxo,
Uncle Fun Tyrant
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That'll be really useful for when I'm back in Australia, yeah.
 
@Aztez Fan we already have had a 5th succession war in this timeline your hypothetical war would be the 6th.

Also didn't we negotiate with our allies that we would split our forces. With half going to deal with the Mandate along with the Canopians, Aurigans and Capellans. While the other half would be send to help the Taurians in the Outback.

Its this reason why i want to recruit another army. So we have a backup force that can be send wherever it is necessary.
Also next turn it may be smart to construct MAWLR's and Rohks to transport them. Not only would that complete one of our Goals but it would also give us some major advantages in any ground engagements. And because of the Nuke rebalance a MAWLR won't get oneshotted by ASF mounted nukes anymore (i don't know if this also goes for ICBM's based nukes). So we can use them more liberally.

But besides those i believe we should really put some planet development on hold for next turn and use allot of our AP to do military actions.
 
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Omega-Chris said:
But besides those i believe we should really put some planet development on hold for next turn and use allot of our AP to do military actions.
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This seems very apt, although i'd say any that will finish next turn should be allowed to finished, and those far off be put on hold. That should give us at least 3-4 more Ap i belive.
 
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The pro indpdence area looks good for a buffer state. if we trigger a mandate collapse we need to rush them and get them into a buffer state before the CC can try anything.
 
I'm not sure how many of those border states would actually want to be a part of their nearest neighbors. Familiarity breeds contempt, and in this case there's grounds for it. Being in an area that even could become contested in the future is more than enough reason for most of the Inner Sphere's polities to start propaganda campaigns against them to ferment rebellion in the case of capture, and there's also the issue of raids in the past causing problems. Admittedly there's quite a few people in this neck of the woods that haven't been raiding in the recent past, so they don't really have to face that issue, or at least not around the area the map is of.
 
Yeah, looks like the Capellans are going to get a lot of their territory back. Though I'm surprised any worlds wanna go Concordat.

Funny that none of them wanna go FS or FWL.
Silversun17 said:
The pro indpdence area looks good for a buffer state. if we trigger a mandate collapse we need to rush them and get them into a buffer state before the CC can try anything.
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That's not a good buffer state. If things break up along the seemingly drawn lines, the Taurians and Cappellans will share a border, and once we eat the Trinity League and expand Coreward the Helghan Republic will as well. I don't see much value in proping up a state that tiny and surrounded by at least three much larger players.
 
The flip side is that given the 'independence' movement correlates roughly to the CM's capital and it's most integral core region where we naturally have distributed less propaganda… I'm pretty sure it's going to be the most immersed in CM ideology. Very much not the sort of stuff we just want to cut loose and let tester as a hermit kingdom.
 
Something tells me Sumy and Brest are gonna be two of the most fortified systems in the entire Confederation...
 
Kelenas said:
Huh. Kind of surprised there's no pro-Republic sentiment, especially given we're one of the main influence-pushers aside from the Capellans, and IIRC a lot of our ideology is used in our propaganda.
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We are a freaky race of mask wearing albinos from the almost deep periphery(as far as the people of the inner sphere are conserned) it makes sense that even if they agree with us on policy they wouldnt want to join the republic itself.
 
So what I get from this map is that none of the planets in the Mandate, want to be in the Mandate. Looks like the moment weakness is thought to be found, the whole thing will disintegrate into popular planetary rebellions.
 
Alternatively, they're fine being in the Mandate and don't want to join the Capellans, Taurians, or Aurigans. Thus maintaining their independence of those powers.
 
EFW3 said:
So what I get from this map is that none of the planets in the Mandate, want to be in the Mandate. Looks like the moment weakness is thought to be found, the whole thing will disintegrate into popular planetary rebellions.
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no I think pro-independence actually means they don't want the Mandate to stop being a thing and instead remain an independent power.
Either way I say we give the heavily pro Mandate worlds to the Capellians let them deal with the terrrorist and crazies.
 
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no I think pro-independence actually means they don't want the Mandate to stop being a thing and instead remain an independent power.
Either way I say we give the heavily pro Mandate worlds to the Capellians let them deal with the terrrorist and crazies.
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Yeah i think that's what it means, considering it's also the area with the vast majority of defenses and military forces. While pro capplean area's are a coin flip on which Cappellan state they want. So trying to think of the independent area will be on our side (When we know where which worlds want to be in the coalition are) means things are less cut and dry than we suspect. Namely as said before, those are the most populated area's and unless we by pass the defenses to hold the green area's, that top half is nearly guaranteed to be Confederation.
 
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