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The Long Founding (Warhammer 40k)

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[] Plan: Relentless Pursuit
-[] Secure and Capture
-[] Extra Assault Bikes
-[] Potent Gene-Seed Charge
-[] Adaptive Gene-Seed
-[] More Equipment
-[] Extra Trainers
-[] Latch Boots

This one is meant to be a variation on *Name*'s plan of White Scars on Equartaz only with bikes instead of speeders and capture instead of xenocide. The proceeding plan with this one is to go for spear training and assault bikes in the next vote.
 
[] Plan: Paladins of Mankind.
-[] Bird Hunting: Too late, apparently - now a third group of Inquisitors want a Chapter specialized in fighting the Changer of Ways….. Which is going to be utterly infuriating given the very nature of that particular pain in your backside. Bah.
Goals: Create a chapter specialized for fighting Tzeentch.
-[] Traitor Legion Geneseed: Traitor Legion Geneseed: If you wish, you could gain access to the gene-seed of the traitor legions, each will have its benefits and costs, but all of them will have their gene-fathers concealed for practical reasons - little point creating a Chapter only for them to be wiped out by some overly paranoid fool.
--[] Thousands Sons.
--[] Word Bearers.
-[] Potent Gene-Seed Charge: Some samples of a chapter's gene-seed are more likely to retain their stronger traits, and you have isolated such samples. Two charges.
-[] Adaptive Gene-Seed: Some samples of Gene-seed are more capable of adapting to different conditions on different planets.
-[] Secondary Gene-Seed: The key component for creating Chimeric Gene-Seed. You're honestly surprised Guiliman approved of this one - then again, you did hear him grumbling about some idiots who were suggesting mixing Night Lord and World Eater templates, so maybe he just wanted to make the concept your problem before somebody did something completely moronic.
--[] Thousands Sons.

I will be honest, I don't want this plan to win, at least not this turn, I just think this would make the perfect Chapter for this world and the idea didn't want to leave my head, so here it is.
[ ] Emperor's Landing: One of the very first planets the Emperor conquered after leaving Terra. The exact details are not known, but the Emperor on this world battled a foe so devastating that he was pushed nearly to his limits, having barely ever used such a level of power before or since. To this day, his power permeates the area so thoroughly that much of the wildlife actually glows with his radiance at night. (Segmentum Solar).
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*name* said:
i can understand switching pOrk farming xenocide for capture, but if we go for Equartaz, can't the horse substitute for the hit and run bikes while speeders act as fast assault force?
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A chapter with Xenocide will be minor species focused will in all likelihood will kill less Orks than the average (not counting Orks killed just surviving on their home world if they are on one with em) due to being overly focused on attacking minor xeno civs.

Grimm though the people who brought the proposal forward were toying with him for a reason.
 
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undead frog said:
A chapter with Xenocide will be minor species focused will in all likelihood will kill less Orks than the average (not counting Orks killed just surviving on their home world if they are on one with em) due to being overly focused on attacking minor xeno civs.

Grimm though the people who brought the proposal forward were toying with him for a reason.
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so xenocide is kill the baby in the cradle before it learns how to create spaceships *cough*Tau*cough* and standard railgun infantry rifles *cough*also Tau*cough*
so change to "do what you will" then for the friendship is magic horses?

. . . we giving them extra librarians, Might have to get some assault packs with little wings for the horses?
 
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undead frog said:
A chapter with Xenocide will be minor species focused will in all likelihood will kill less Orks than the average (not counting Orks killed just surviving on their home world if they are on one with em) due to being overly focused on attacking minor xeno civs.
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Is there an dedicated anti-ork trait ?
 
*name* said:
. . . i want A white scars successor chapter to ride 8-10 ft tall horses that can run up walls and ceilings, and i bet they would love it too

[] Plan: please i want spider-horse
-[ ] Xenocide: Apparently, the heavy focus on Chaos has left many within the Imperium dismayed at a perceived ignoring of the Xenos threat, and have asked your aid to fix that. Oddly enough though, the description of the Xenos species they want to attack first…. Paints that species as one of the least threatening ones in the entire history of the Imperium. And there have been some fairly unimpressive Xenos in the - Wait a minute, are you being toyed with!?
-[ ] Extra Land Speeders: The Chapter has access to extra Land Speeders of various Patterns, granting them a more capable fast attack force. 10 Points.
-[ ] Potent Gene-Seed Charge: Some samples of a chapter's gene-seed are more likely to retain their stronger traits, and you have isolated such samples. 5 Points for each charge. Burn a charge to make the chapter roll for two traits from their parent legion.
-[ ] Adaptive Gene-Seed: Some samples of Gene-seed are more capable of adapting to different conditions on different planets. 5 Points each charge. Burn a charge to roll an extra planetary trait.
-[ ] More Equipment: You've managed to secure extra equipment for a chapter. 5 Points. Burn 1 charge to add an extra equipment slot for the chapter.
-[ ] Extra Trainers: With some extra effort and yelling at a few more bureaucrats, you ought to be able to arrange things so the new Chapter is able to get in some extra specialised training before proper deployment. 5 Points. Burn 1 charge to get an extra training option.
-[ ] Latch Boots: A superior counterpart to the regular mag-boots in Power Armour, these fascinating devices gives the Chapter's armor the ability to 'stick' itself onto any surface at will - letting the Astartes of the chapter fight on vertical surfaces, or even while upside down. 10 Points.
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This is great but might I point you towards that training specialisation for spears we have available? Sounds like a great combo with this setup
 
[] Plan: The True Imperial Truth
-[] Do as you will: You will not be taking any requests at this time.
-[ ] Extra Dreadnaughts: The Chapter has more Dreadnought hulls than normal, letting it field more of the venerable ancients… if it has enough wounded veterans to pilot them, of course. 5 Points.
-[] Potent Gene-Seed Charge: Some samples of a chapter's gene-seed are more likely to retain their stronger traits, and you have isolated such samples. 5 Points for each charge. Burn a charge to make the chapter roll for two traits from their parent legion.
-[] Legendary Gene-Seed: The finest Gene-Seed ever recovered from a given legion. 15 Points per charge, Burn a Charge to add a legion's legendary traits to the roll list for that round.
-[] More Equipment: You've managed to secure extra equipment for a chapter. 5 Points. Burn 1 charge to add an extra equipment slot for the chapter.
-[] Secondary Gene-Seed (Word Bearers): The key component for creating Chimeric Gene-Seed. You're honestly surprised Guiliman approved of this one - then again, you did hear him grumbling about some idiots who were suggesting mixing Night Lord and World Eater templates, so maybe he just wanted to make the concept your problem before somebody did something completely moronic. 5 Points for one charge, choose 1 legion to be the donor for the secondary Gene-Seed. Burn 1 charge and traits from the donor chapter are added for a roll, or a separate charge of potent gene-seed can be spent for a separate roll on the donor legion's trait list as well as an acquisition of the secondary legions 'base' traits.
-[] Extra Trainers: With some extra effort and yelling at a few more bureaucrats, you ought to be able to arrange things so the new Chapter is able to get in some extra specialised training before proper deployment. 5 Points. Burn 1 charge to get an extra training option.

I really want to make an Ultramar-lite that can espouse the words of the Imperial Truth, unlike the Eccelsiarchy, with the Dreadnaughts being the main bulk of preachers and making them more prepared and well-trained.
 
What do you think about idea of making Blood Angels (primary)/Word Bearers (secondary) Chimeric Chapter?
 
[] Plan Proud Bearers of Sanguinus's Blood v2
-[] Rites of Blood: You still remember your time aiding the Blood Angels, before the Heresy tore the galaxy asunder… perhaps you can give them a hand, for old time's sakes.
Goals: Place a Blood Angels descended chapter on a planet with the (Sanguine) tag.
-[] Traitor Legion Geneseed: 10 Points for each time this is taken.
--[] Word Bearers
-[] Extra Land Speeders: The Chapter has access to extra Land Speeders of various Patterns, granting them a more capable fast attack force. 10 Points.
-[ ] Extra Thunderhawks: The Chapter has access to additional Thunderhawks, of both Gunship, Transporter and Annihilator models, giving them superior heavy air power. 5 Points.
-[] Potent Gene-Seed Charge:
-[] More Equipment: You've managed to secure extra equipment for a chapter. 5 Points. Burn 1 charge to add an extra equipment slot for the chapter.
-[] Secondary Gene-Seed (Insert Legion Name):
--[] Word Bearers

Swapped Extra Bikes for Extra Equipment
 
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Adrian XXIV said:
[] Plan Proud Bearers of Sanguinus's Blood
-[] Rites of Blood: You still remember your time aiding the Blood Angels, before the Heresy tore the galaxy asunder… perhaps you can give them a hand, for old time's sakes.
Goals: Place a Blood Angels descended chapter on a planet with the (Sanguine) tag.
-[] Traitor Legion Geneseed: 10 Points for each time this is taken.
--[] Word Bearers
-[] Extra Land Speeders: The Chapter has access to extra Land Speeders of various Patterns, granting them a more capable fast attack force. 10 Points.
-[] Extra Assault Bikes: The Chapter has access to more Assault Bikes than average, expanding their capability in hit and run tactics. 5 Points.
-[ ] Extra Thunderhawks: The Chapter has access to additional Thunderhawks, of both Gunship, Transporter and Annihilator models, giving them superior heavy air power. 5 Points.
-[] Potent Gene-Seed Charge:
-[] Secondary Gene-Seed (Insert Legion Name):
--[] Word Bearers
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I would recommend cutting thunderhawks or bikes for an extra equipment charge. We currently lack any and it would be an easy power boost.

Personally would drop the Bikes so we could emphasize Blood Angel's affinity for Alpha strikes. That and I feel like the black rage and red thirst both disfavor hit and run tactics.
 
Dream Logic said:
Personally would drop the Bikes so we could emphasize Blood Angel's affinity for Alpha strikes. That and I feel like the black rage and red thirst both disfavor hit and run tactics.
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Well, it would be bad if Biker fell to Black Rage, while driving at max speed through battlefield... mainly for his survivality
 
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