Oh sorry, English isn't my main language so for some reason I had it in my head that lute was flauta (flute) instead. Thanks for the clarification!
The Heir of the Dragon: A Rhaenyra Targaryen Quest
- Thread starter Teen Spirit
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Oh sorry, English isn't my main language so for some reason I had it in my head that lute was flauta (flute) instead. Thanks for the clarification!
Temes1066
To Defy Gravity you must Let It Go
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- Coleraine
I know how we can win Borros to our side later, we could just wed one of our children to one of his. Canonically, he had four daughters the youngest of which was born 118 AC, and he was prepared to wed one of them to Prince Aemond when the dance started. So, we didn't even need to offer up our firstborn son. (As are Firstborn Son will likely either wed a daughter of Alicent or a daughter of Johanna)
If this had happened, would I be correct in assuming that Corlys Velaryon would have gotten the Handship and a royal match (either Laena+Viserys or Laenor+Rhaenyra)
If this had happened, would I be correct in assuming that Corlys Velaryon would have gotten the Handship and a royal match (either Laena+Viserys or Laenor+Rhaenyra)
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Not automatically. Viserys really did not want to marry Laena. And Daemon going rogue would put pressure on Viserys to have more heirs sooner rather than later. And with Laena he would be waiting years. Plus the situation would lead to Corlys probably overplaying his hand, which Viserys never reacts well too.
Temes1066
To Defy Gravity you must Let It Go
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- Coleraine
So Viserys deciding to get a new dragon, marry someone else and find a Hand who won't hector him.
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- Spain
Well, TBH I would have preferred if we could have waited until our relationship with Alicent went back to strong or warm before asking her to be our handmaiden (so probably next time we talked with her)... It would have felt more natural that way, but since the opportunity has just presented itself better to take it...
@Teen Spirit If we learn music before we go to the Royal Progress, can we a few learn songs from the places we visit?
I am partial for music from the North...
View: https://youtu.be/w4cqcinpbvw?si=1SS0Ax2pI1EGq3Ws
And if we go with the Girl-Rhaegar route, what would be Rhaenyra's singing voice? Soprano, Mezzo-Soprano, or Contralto (I am asking mostly because Emma has a much deeper voice than Milly)?
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Wonder what juicy info we will get by watching the other nobles mingle.
Edit: Perhaps who Otto wants betroth Alicent to...
Edit: Perhaps who Otto wants betroth Alicent to...
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Temes1066
To Defy Gravity you must Let It Go
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- Coleraine
@Teen Spirit, does this quest have a Discord?
Edit: Things we need to bring up with the Small Council next turn:
Edit: Things we need to bring up with the Small Council next turn:
- A new royal fleet, so the crown isn't forced to rely upon the Velaryon's for Naval Power. (it is something Tyland Lannister did when was Hand of the King between 131AC-133AC)
- If possible, Viserys needs to claim a new dragon, so we have more dragons loyal to the crown.
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Do you have a dragon in mind?
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- The Shrine of the Muse
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- She/They
Mighty bold of you to assume that another dragon would even give him the time of day.
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- Spain
Teen Spirit has already told us that no Targaryen has claimed a dragon after the death of his previous one... So without that assurance, Viserys is unlikely to ever try taming another one unless it is literally a matter of life or death...
Viserys was the last rider of Balerion the Fucking Black Dread... Don't underestimate our dear old dad, he is still a Dragon through and through
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I don't think we should be the one bringing this up to the small council. Let Tyland suggest the first idea of a royal fleet. We do not want to give any impression that we are hostile to the Velaryons.
As for the second issue, that is Viserys business, not ours.
Rather we should:
1: Suggest the idea of a royal progress.
2: Invite Laena, Laenor, and Rhaenys to join us on the royal tour.
Because it's going to take some time after the suggestion to get everything setup for a tour, probably at least two turns. And we ought to be doing everything in our power get the Velaryons onside with us.
That's the essential thing, other than that, perhaps suggest organizing some way for second and third sons to join Corlys and Daemon in subjugating the Stepstones. Perhaps with a greater focus on building holdfasts and other means of securing control over the islands. Perhaps approaching Braavos to secure a more formal alliance over controlling the Stepstones (so that we don't gain their enmity at some point).
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This would be pretty awesome, there is no way in hell that the Velaryons will allow one (let alone two) of their Dragon Riders to go with us with the war on the Stepstones still raging...
Agree with Fanhunter, I think we can convince Rhaenys to bring one of the siblings not both.
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- Spain
I don't think we are getting Laenor no matter what, Seasmoke is too important for the war effort.
Toaster cult
I Am An Imaginary Living Body
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- Tokyo
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- She/Her
Dont rhaenys and Laena refuse to fight in the stepstones in the original, could fully be what happens here as well
Of course they will. Do you think that Corlys is going to send his 12 year old son and daughter to war? Or that Rhaenys would permit it if he did?
Rhaenys might not come with us, but Corlys will be ecstatic to have his son and daughter go with us on our royal progress and be implicitly accepted as "royals" by the heir to the throne.
Laenor is not fighting in the Stepstones, not for another 4 years at least. Right now he is only 12 years old, in the books he was 10 and his dragon just large enough to ride, and still vulnerable to crossbows (likely being only 10 years old itself). If Corlys has any say about it, Laenor is absolutely going to be sent with us, Corly isn't stupid, he knows that his best chance to get his blood on the throne now will be to marry Laenor to us.
Laena and Laenor are too young to be fighting in the Stepstones. In both the books and the show. Rhaenys could fight, but perhaps Corlys doesn't want to have his wife fighting?
People are getting confused because of the time skip, Laenor doesn't fight in the Stepstones until much later. After Daemon and Corlys succeed in conquering them, the Triarchy sends forces to drive them out and there is more fighting. Eventually Daemon marries Laena and abandons the Stepstones. I believe a young Laenor starts participating in the fighting at some point during this period, immediately prior to marrying Rhaenyra. In the books at least, where he is older than Rhaenyra by two and a half years. I have no idea how they reconcile the ages in the show, but he doesn't fight in the initial takeover of the Stepstones.
Question for asoiaf wedding stuff, does the bride wear her house colours in the wedding dress, her husband colours or something else? Thanks.
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From what I understand the dress isn't vital, though I imagine house colors are popular in dresses. The main thing is the husband drapes his bride in a cloak of his house colors or sigils.
Thanks Teen Spirit! I trying to figure out what should I dress Johanna in for the wedding fan art but I didn't want to copy Alicent dress in the show. Hmmm I will figure it out.
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- Volksstaat Hessen, Deutsches Reich
IIRC, she will wear a cloak of her house, and then the husband will drape her in a cloak of his house to show she is now part of this house and not her old one.
So I always did wonder how that works when they have a matrilinear marriage over in Dorne...
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- Lake Wobegon
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They don't use cloaks in Dorne for fear of heat exhaustion, unless up in the mountains.
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- Spain
Hey, deserts can be quite chilly at night...
Well, I imagine that it works similarly, but the bride/groom who joins the household gets the robe, from the other...
Interesting... Is Viserys going to veto the bedding thingy @Teen Spirit ?
That thing where the males undress the bride on the way to the bedchambers?