Are they?
The only Hightower who (to my knowledge) has silver hair is Alerie who is either in her late 30's or early 40's so it can be argued that it can be argued that she's simply greying at a rapid pace.
The Heir of the Dragon: A Rhaenyra Targaryen Quest
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Are they?
The only Hightower who (to my knowledge) has silver hair is Alerie who is either in her late 30's or early 40's so it can be argued that it can be argued that she's simply greying at a rapid pace.
Imperious
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Here's Artwork for Alicent Hightower from the books:
Pretty clearly a brunette. I'd even go as far as to say that in terms of apperance they got it pretty close with Olivia Cooke.
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I believe Lynesse Hightower (Jorah Mormont's wife) was described as being pale of both skin and hair, hence Jorah's infatuation with Daenerys (this is your daily reminder that Jorah's a creep). I believe the Hightowers by the time of ASOIAF have a bit of Targ blood in them somewhere, but the Hightowers of DoD probably don't yet.
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Unlikely, and if, it would be very remote. Rhaena Targaryen (daughter of Daemon and Laena) would go on to marry a Hightower, but a third son, and they had only daughters, anyway. I guess they could have gone on to marry lesser Reach nobility, and one of those families then could have provided a bride to t he Hightowers at some point, but that would be the "remote" part.
And other than that - well, we know the Targaryen genealogy pretty well, so we can say the only other instances of Targ Princesses marrying out were to the Penroses, the Plumms and of course the Martells, plus two daughters of Maekar who married out but to unknown families (but almost certainly one of them has to be the Tarths).
Now, I suppose, given the Hightowers' standing and geographic proximity, a marriage to a descendant of Maron Martell and Daenarys Targaryen is not out of the question - but the Martells in turn are not exactly know for having kept Valyrian traits. Which leaves the second unknown family a Targaryen princess married out to, but we just don't know about that case.
...granted, none of that is important to the quest, but I felt like writing it
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I may have been thinking of the Crusader Kings mod depiction of Alicent, which gave her the white hair, in which case I apologize. But in my defense, the Hightowers, like the Daynes, have ancient ties to weird and mysterious magical heritages that may be connected to the Great Empire of the Dawn, and that heritage may be a root of their appearance, not the Targaryens.
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The Daynes are explicitly noted for their appearance, and that they have that appearance despite not being Valyrian. I never heard anything like that about the Hightowers. Sure, they are said to be sorcerous, and often are, and the Hightower itself, the building, rests on a foundation of fused black stone, same as the Five Forts of Yi T i... but nothing is said about their appearance being special. Or at least, I don't recall so.
Hightowers are usually golden blonde, not platinum blonde like the Daynes. Though I do think they have a few occasional platinum blondes. But then people also forget that Targaryens are also known to some times have golden blonde hair. Alysanne the Good Queen was known to be golden blonde instead of white.
In the books, I think Alicent does have blonde hair in at least one version? I seem to be remembering Daemon flirting with her because of her blonde hair being Valyrian appearing compared to Rhea? And then Alicent becoming jealous of Msyria? Was that the verion in the Rouge Prince maybe?
Wasn't Cersei Hightower (Maegor's first wife) blonde? I'm pretty sure I remember several references to blonde Hightowers. Often in connections with the Daynes, talking about how those two houses had different coloring that made people wonder if they had a connection to the Valyrians.
The Daynes also having purple eyes, while I believe the Hightowers tended towards light blue.?
Yeah, this is what I recall. But I can't remember where, haven't played the Dance version of CK so it can't be that.
I can't remember that exact wording, but it's pointing out the different coloring of the Daynes as clearly odd, and then I think the Hightowers are mentioned as another family that while not as odd as the Daynes, still had some distinct coloring.
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We're going to eat every chicken in this room...
(Sorry, I only just thought of that now.)
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rapid cheering from the stands, I love the show velaryon looks
I hate that Rhaneys had her black hair taken away from her. It directly contradicts not only book canon, but Game of Thrones show cannon.
Imperious
Without the sun of my life
I just figured she was at an age in the show when her black hair had already gone white.
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I was talking bt the Velaryon Velaryons, I think Corlys, laena, and Laenor have some really strong actors and good wigs show wise, I do also just like the fact that it shows a diversity within Valyrian ethnicities that we dont really get book wise. also ditto on the Rhaenys comment from Imperious
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Hair "like spun gold" - Jorah is either exaggerating, misremembering or lying.
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Whereas I agree that the actors and actresses of Corlys, Laenor, Laena, and Rhaenys did an excellent job portraying their characters, I disagree with the wig department... At least in the first season both Targaryen and Velaryon wigs looked cheap as hell, and the Velaryons looked specially terrible.
TBH, I find it hilarious that by the time we get married, Rhaenyra can probably bridal carry even Harwin Strong to their bedroom...
Well, I would like to point out that is not incompatible for women to be tall and muscled with having a big buxom... When women bulk up their breast size tends to remain mostly unaffected unless they reduce significanlty their body fat percentage via diet or other ways, which is not something that Rhaenyra is doing here (the update shows that Nyra is eating more protein, but it doesn't say anything about her cutting down carbs or fats)
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I also drew something! Not sure of Alicent's eye color but hopefully it isn't too wrong. I bring you... Dress! Rhaenyra. Ignore historical inaccuracies.
Borrowing a certain series' quote:
Borrowing a certain series' quote:
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Alicent's eyes are brown in the show and I don't think they are described in F&B or The Princess and The Queen. To illustrate:
Young Alicent (Emily Carey)
Adult Alicent (Olivia Cooke)
Temes1066
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I think we need to talk about sigils, in case we end up at war with Daemon and/or House Velaryon (or some other Targaryen claimant). Should we stick to the House Targaryen sigil or should we use something personalised like Rhaenyra's personal sigil in canon (of course we will exchange the Sea Horse of House Velaryon for something else if we don't marry a Velaryon)?
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I always thought her choice of arms was undermining her claim. She is the heir, she should simply have the arms of her house. Having her own device makes her just a faction no better or worse than the other faction, and quartering the dragon with the arms of another house makes that even worse. We really need to stress we are the Targaryen (or well, will be - ofc, rn, the Targaryen is our father).
A unique variant is possible for personal arms, I'd think. A three-headed dragon holding a sword, perhaps?
Temes1066
To Defy Gravity you must Let It Go
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Here are some old mistakes.
This is suppose to be four and ten not six and ten.
Lyonel Strong is Master of Laws not Master of Coin.
This is suppose to be four and ten not six and ten.
Lyonel Strong is Master of Laws not Master of Coin.
And yet 4 1/2 kingdoms didnt care and declared for her during otl, compared to the greens 2 1/2
Temes1066
To Defy Gravity you must Let It Go
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If we marry Gwayne Hightower and Alicent Hightower marries Tyland Lannister.
Then our coalition will be comprised of Northmen, Valemen, Pro-Hightower & Pro-Rhaenyra Reacher Lords, Westerlanders and Non-Narrow Sea Crownlanders.
Meanwhile Team Daemon/Corlys will have the Ironborn, Anti-Hightower and Anti-Rhaenyra Reacher Lords, and House Velaryon.
The major unaligned groups are the Riverlanders and The Stormlords, whose allegiance will depend on whoever is in charge:
Then our coalition will be comprised of Northmen, Valemen, Pro-Hightower & Pro-Rhaenyra Reacher Lords, Westerlanders and Non-Narrow Sea Crownlanders.
Meanwhile Team Daemon/Corlys will have the Ironborn, Anti-Hightower and Anti-Rhaenyra Reacher Lords, and House Velaryon.
The major unaligned groups are the Riverlanders and The Stormlords, whose allegiance will depend on whoever is in charge:
- Grover Tully would support Daemon because he prefers a male claimant however his Grandson (Elmo) and Great-Grandsons (Kermit and Oscar) were ardent Blacks.
- Boremund Baratheon would support Daemon if he was wed to Laena Velaryon, or had children with her blood in line to inherit the crown from Daemon. As Boremund Baratheon was a major backer of Corlys Velaryon's wife. Meanwhile his son Borros would back whoever gave him the best offer/who his Maester manipulated him to back because Borros is illiterate.
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For everyone counting their chickens by planning a marriage for Alicent. I would be highly wary of any plan that has Rhaenyra and Alicent based out of separated castles on opposite ends of the continent due and believing she'll somehow stay undoubtedly loyal.