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The Heir of the Dragon: A Rhaenyra Targaryen Quest

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    • Alright well not much has really changed in a while so I think I will close the vote.
    Adhoc vote count started by Teen Spirit on Mar 10, 2025 at 8:42 AM, finished with 201 posts and 48 votes.
    • [X] Plan: Think of the Children!
      -[X] Delay the actual wedding.
      --[X] Until the beginning of spring. (This is a Moderate Request)
      -[x] Ask that all of your children be allowed to claim dragons or given dragon eggs. (This is a Minor Request)
      -[x] Request that all your children have the Name Targaryen, with Qoren's heir taking the Martell name upon succession. (This is a Moderate Request)
      -[x] Request absolute cognatic inheritance of both titles to be spelled out in the agreement. The firstborn inherits the Iron Throne, the secondborn Dorne, regardless of gender. (This is a Moderate Request)
      -[X] Request control over where all your kids, save Qoren's heir, are raised. (This is a Major Request)
      [X] Plan: Don't ask for anything "Major".
      -[X] Delay the actual wedding.
      --[X] Until the beginning of spring. (This is a Moderate Request)
      -[X] Ask for a voice on Stepstone matters. (This is a Moderate Request)
      -[X] Request Qoren to join you on your remaining royal progress. (This is a Minor Request)
      -[x] Ask that all of your children be allowed to claim dragons or given dragon eggs. (This is a Minor Request)
      -[x] Request that all your children have the Name Targaryen, with Qoren's heir taking the Martell name upon succession. (This is a Moderate Request)
      -[x] Request absolute cognatic inheritance of both titles to be spelled out in the agreement. The firstborn inherits the Iron Throne, the secondborn Dorne, regardless of gender. (This is a Moderate Request)
      [X] Plan: Think of the Children! (Now with Royal Progress)
      -[X] Request Qoren to join you on your remaining royal progress. (This is a Minor Request)
      -[X] Delay the actual wedding.
      --[X] Until the beginning of spring. (This is a Moderate Request)
      -[x] Ask that all of your children be allowed to claim dragons or given dragon eggs. (This is a Minor Request)
      -[x] Request that all your children have the Name Targaryen, with Qoren's heir taking the Martell name upon succession. (This is a Moderate Request)
      -[x] Request absolute cognatic inheritance of both titles to be spelled out in the agreement. The firstborn inherits the Iron Throne, the secondborn Dorne, regardless of gender. (This is a Moderate Request)
      -[X] Request control over where all your kids, save Qoren's heir, are raised. (This is a Major Request)
      [X] Plan: Equal Parenting
      -[X] Delay the actual wedding.
      --[X] Until the beginning of spring. (This is a Moderate Request)
      -[x] Ask that all of your children be allowed to claim dragons or given dragon eggs. (This is a Minor Request)
      -[x] Request that all your children have the Name Targaryen, with Qoren's heir taking the Martell name upon succession. (This is a Moderate Request)
      -[x] Request absolute cognatic inheritance of both titles to be spelled out in the agreement. The firstborn inherits the Iron Throne, the secondborn Dorne, regardless of gender. (This is a Moderate Request)
      [X] Plan: Foundation of a Reign
      -[X] Delay the actual wedding.
      --[X] Until the beginning of spring. (This is a Moderate Request)
      -[x] Ask that all of your children be allowed to claim dragons or given dragon eggs. (This is a Minor Request)
      -[x] Request that all your children have the Name Targaryen, with Qoren's heir taking the Martell name upon succession. (This is a Moderate Request)
      -[x] Request absolute cognatic inheritance of both titles to be spelled out in the agreement. The firstborn inherits the Iron Throne, the secondborn Dorne, regardless of gender. (This is a Moderate Request)
      -[X] Ask for a voice on Stepstone matters. (This is a Moderate Request)
      [X] Ask that all of your children be allowed to claim dragons or given dragon eggs. (This is a Minor Request)
      [X] Request absolute cognatic inheritance of both titles to be spelled out in the agreement. The firstborn inherits the Iron Throne, the secondborn Dorne, regardless of gender. (This is a Moderate Request)
      [x] Plan flaming wedding bells!
      -[x] Request absolute cognatic inheritance of both titles to be spelled out in the agreement. The firstborn inherits the Iron Throne, the secondborn Dorne, regardless of gender. (This is a Moderate Request)
      -[x] Request that all your children have the Name Targaryen, with Qoren's heir taking the Martell name upon succession. (This is a Moderate Request)
      -[x] Ask that all of your children be allowed to claim dragons or given dragon eggs. (This is a Minor Request)
      -[x] Until the beginning of spring. (This is a Moderate Request)
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    • Now that vote has ended, I wanted to review previous discussion and put together draft for next turn based on previous turn available options.

    [] Draft Friday Afternoon
    -[] [Conversation] Speak with Gwayne And Alicent
    -[] [Conversation] Speak with Ser Raylon Tarly
    -[] [Action] Train
    --[] Challenge to a Duel: Raylon has suggested dueling others as a way of sharpening yourself against new blades. Have others find flaws in you that he has missed (Pick One)
    ---[] [Duel] One of the Dornish Nobles
    -[] [Conversation] Speak with Laena Velaryon
    -[] [Action] Train with Syrax
    -[] [Action] Prepare for a Trip to Dragonstone

    [] Draft Doctor Visit
    -[] [Conversation] Speak with Gwayne And Alicent
    -[] [Conversation] Speak with Ser Raylon Tarly
    -[] [Action] Train
    --[] Challenge to a Duel: Raylon has suggested dueling others as a way of sharpening yourself against new blades. Have others find flaws in you that he has missed (Pick One)
    ---[] [Duel] One of the Dornish Nobles
    -[] [Conversation] Speak with Laena Velaryon
    -[] [Action] Train with Syrax
    -[] [Conversation] Speak with Maester Orwyle

    The current consensus for the priority of T15 are speaking with Alicent and Gwayne to solicit their opinion of our marriage choice, speaking w/ Ser Tarly and Duel to calm our sworn shield, and Speaking with Laena and Train with Syrax to look for opening and prevent her from marrying Daemon.

    Which left one flex action with three proposed options with the last two as the differing options in drafts above.
    1. Looking for eggs for the twins by Speaking with Viserys/Johanna. This is a short-medium term low urgency concern as technically we can postpone it as long as they don't claim dragon or obtain egg themselves.
    2. Prepare Dragonstone trip to prepare a Relaxation turn for the next-next turn. This is a short term low-medium urgency concern because of the intent to bring Qoren along and a required step prep a Dragonstone-Music-Poetry combo for T16.
    3. Speaking with Orwyle to halt Viserys sickness. This is a medium-long term medium-high urgency concern as the earlier Viserys treated by the more competent Orwyle the longer he lives which have their pro and con too.
     
    TheBarrometer said:
    Indeed, and for all I mostly like Viserys in this quest, him dying without fathering a son off of our step mother would be a huge W.

    I know that, in character, Rhaenyra would be incredibly sad and stressed to inherit so early but it has some slim advantages.
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    Even a low estimate of his remaining lifespan would have him live for like a decade, I think
    That's plenty of time to sire a son
     
    The main advantage in my mind is the number of combat ready dragonrider at the outbreak of hostility. If we inherit right now the landscape of dragonrider opposition is mainly Daemon with the Velaryon trio mainly trending neutral. If Viserys dies a decade from now, Johanna twins will barely able to fly with craddle dragon and lacking experience with adult dragon. The earlier we inherit the less amount of combat ready dragonriders we must contend with. This can still be a boon or detriment.
     
    Somic said:
    Even a low estimate of his remaining lifespan would have him live for like a decade, I think
    That's plenty of time to sire a son
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    I don't disagree, but that also puts the hypothetical son at at most 10 years old, which is to young to be the figurehead of an immediate rebellion in my opinion - and also too young to ride a dragon. So as long as said hypothetical 10 year old half brother isn't backed by the Velyarons or Daemon, we would win that fight quickly and simply.
     
    TheBarrometer said:
    I don't disagree, but that also puts the hypothetical son at at most 10 years old, which is to young to be the figurehead of an immediate rebellion in my opinion - and also too young to ride a dragon. So as long as said hypothetical 10 year old half brother isn't backed by the Velyarons or Daemon, we would win that fight quickly and simply.
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    Johanna's children without the backing of Daemon and/or the Velaryons sounds to me less like an easy victory and more like a 3+ sided Dance.
     
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