C'mon, give him double-disadvantage on all of his rolls if he goes against us. Maybe he'll have to make survival rolls!
Suddenly contemplating how Hugh of the Vale died in AGoT for no reason in particular….
The Heir of the Dragon: A Rhaenyra Targaryen Quest
- Thread starter Teen Spirit
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Suddenly contemplating how Hugh of the Vale died in AGoT for no reason in particular….
If Lord Dustin win against Peake we will give him the best wine supply for this winter
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We can probably save our coin, Desmond Manderly would likely do the same of his own accord.
Best outcome for Nyra personally is probably Peake winning against Dustin, then her beating both Cole and Peake such that Manderly feels compelled to knight her out of gratitude for spoiling the chances of his house's ancestral rival to take the victory at his tourney, and for avenging his sons' failed attempts to do the same.
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Jousting lances are not weapons. The tips are crowned, designed not to penetrate, but moreover the lances themselves are made of weak woods like balsa and intended to shatter rather than fully transfer the blows. As I understand it a lot of the actual injury risk was from splinters from the shattered lance rather than impact.
Not to say aiming for the head doesn't seem riskier, and there was probably was a reason that the target was at the chest rather than the head. Just that if people were regularly dying to poor hits to the head they presumably would come up with a rule against it, and first pass I didn't find one (although it's entirely possible that one did exist).
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You try getting poked in the head to the tune of forty miles an hour with an eight-foot plank of balsa wood and walking it off.
Also, as you say, splinters flying in and around the eye and air slits of a helmet are still plenty dangerous, I think.
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I'm not saying it sounds like a fun time to me, just that medieval people weren't dumb, and it was the aristocracy that got to make the rules who participated in the jousting. Obviously it's a dangerous combat sport and it takes a certain lack of risk aversion to participate, but people later adopted special jousting helmets and armor to further mitigate risk, so they did try to make it safer where they could.
If people were dying all the time to strikes to the head, they'd likely have made a rule against it. If there isn't one, it probably was very rarely lethal. Although it could well have resulted in brain injuries not immediately apparent.
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"Weak" woods is a very relative term here
Modern recreations of jousts use especially fragile lances that snap without transferring much force, but medieval jousts could unseat opponents
If there's enough force being transferred behind the charge to potentially knock a man from the saddle, taking a full lance charge to the face and concentrating all that force on your head is liable to break your neck
At best you're looking at traumatic brain injuries and whiplash, but just dying on the spot is going to happen very often because we are talking about the force of two Destriers at full gallop in opposite directions being transferred directly to your cranium
A frog mouth helmet, which doesn't bend at the neck, might help with that
But medieval tournaments didn't exactly have standardized equipment for all comers, and you still really wouldn't want to absorb blows of the force we are talking about with your head
Balsa wood also probably wasn't what most medieval lances were made of, given the regions of the world where it grows
More likely Ash
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To be frank, consider how long people went, "Skill issue" to a lot of the unsafe elements of Football?
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I have a feeling there aren't strict rules against headshots and why most jousters do go for center mass is because intentionally aiming for a smaller target is a great recipe for whiffing entirely and eating shit.
In a very unrelated note I realized again that Unwin Peake called Rhaenyra an abomination/deformed
Which, very uncalled for. Get Rhaenyra in men clothes and she'd probably pass off as a handsomer(?) Rhaegar. She looks pretty in a dress too. Smh the disrespect. I bet you he's shorter than her and feels all pissy over it and that's why he calls her an abomination.
Which, very uncalled for. Get Rhaenyra in men clothes and she'd probably pass off as a handsomer(?) Rhaegar. She looks pretty in a dress too. Smh the disrespect. I bet you he's shorter than her and feels all pissy over it and that's why he calls her an abomination.
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No one has worn Aegon's crown and Blackfyre better, the thread title image proclaims as much.
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We might be talking past each other because yeah I was thinking about American football, and that along with like modern jousting seems a reasonable point of reference? It's certainly more dangerous than either of those, probably many times more dangerous, but probably not hundreds of times.
You're right of course that they can't have been balsa (presumably that's modern lances?), but at least per Wikipedia they were hollow (at least later on) and so designed to shatter as well.
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I knew it, that's why I drew her so handsome and radiant. She wears it better than the original Aegon and I WILL die on that hill no matter what Daemon or Unwin Peake say.
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Rhaenyra in this is tall, by the time she's an adult she'll be near Brienne height, and she is quite muscular. While she still has Targaryen looks, if the internet has taught me anything, there's subsets of men who will think any woman who dares to be anything outside their narrow view of what a woman "should" look like is ugly. So it's that plus Unwin's strong dislike of Rhaenyra being allowed to fight with swords and such.
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It's like when people were trying to pretend that the birds of prey film made Huntress ugly.
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Hades II discourse war flashbacks.
What a twat.
Also "near Brienne height" IIRC Brienne is like, what, 6'6 ft tall?
All I'm hearing is that we may get to be over 6'2 ft tall, which immediately translates to being taller than Daemon, which also immediately translates to being able to make him feel even more humiliated over some self-perceived insult
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Not even being personally hated by two authors and literally being named "unwin" can keep the man from winning or make him face any consequences for his actions. Truly Peake performance.
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Imperious
Without the sun of my life
The true underdog of this tourney. No doubt once we have our match with Unwin his theme song will start playing in the background:
View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oomCIXGzsR0&pp=ygUWeW91J3JlIHRoZSBiZXN0IGFyb3VuZA%3D%3D
Edit: Hell Unwin even has the classic of the competition runner being heavily biased against him and conspiring with his rivals a plot to bring down his family. No doubt said plot will be defeated when Unwin proves victorious in the tourney, winning the support of the crowd and public against Manderly's plot against the Peakes
#Peake main character energy
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Hmm, I see
So what you're saying is that we need to break his legs
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I'm pretty sure both of his jousts were hard fought, and that he fell in the middle of the melee, when fighting was fiercest. Dustin won his second bought easily, so he's probably in better shape than Unwin. Odds are he isn't coming out of facing dustin in good shape, if he wins at all.
We need to hit him so hard, he's knocked through space and time to when he was facing silver pike, and decides to throw the match to avoid being hit by Rhaenyra.
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Imperious
Without the sun of my life
Unwin after having his legs broken:
View: https://youtu.be/zKhEw7nD9C4?si=ZxmgLarZjvlMMQDR&t=138
~Try to believe though the going gets tough that you gotta hang tough to make it. History repeats itself. Try and you'll succeed. Never doubt that you're the one and you can have your dream!~
I know. The main character has to give it his all in every match he fights and is already beaten and bruised in the semi finals against a fresh opponet where even victory still means he'll have to face off against an incredibly skilled knight in the finals. Pretty great underdog story.
~You're the best, around!~
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