The Heir of the Dragon: A Rhaenyra Targaryen Quest
Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
Or even better, let Cole roll like shit.
Normally, I am all for that honourable "I want my opponents to roll well because I want to beat them at their best, but Cole was a jerk to us so I want him to crater so hard he lands in the Yamcha pose.
I hope she knocks Criston right off his horse
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The man competed in the melee, where he quite easily could have been maimed. If the blow has genuinely endangered his life, there might be a grudge to hold. Instead, he just has cause to put anyone who disparages Rhaenyra as a warrior, and thus himself by proxy, in the ground.
Ollena is a fairly shrewd old shrew who brought the reach very much under the tyrell banner almost fully during her life, despite repeated, offensive blunders by her son that should have honestly seen the reach fracture into multiple faction.
Rhaenyra will be fine. She has alicent favor. The universe craves Rhaenyra crowning her queen of love and beauty.
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It'd be really awful if we beat Criston... only to lose to Unwin Peake.
It doesn't, but that Willas is specifically mentioned as not just not holding a grudge, but being in correspondence with Oberyn, which is an odd detail to include if there's a genuine feud and a leading one if the whole thing is smoke without fire. Sansa is of course also on the outside, and we know that the Tyrells change their behave around Sansa in order to serve their interests, since we see them do it.
I won't continue this more since this isn't the ASOIAF discussion thread, and we won't really know until GRRMs estate publishes his notes after his death (or we get Winds), but since this is a ASOIAF quest we should bear in mind for our purposes that people are perfectly capable of saying one thing and doing another.
It doesn't, but that Willas is specifically mentioned as not just not holding a grudge, but being in correspondence with Oberyn, which is an odd detail to include if there's a genuine feud and a leading one if the whole thing is smoke without fire. Sansa is of course also on the outside, and we know that the Tyrells change their behave around Sansa in order to serve their interests, since we see them do it.
I won't continue this more since this isn't the ASOIAF discussion thread, and we won't really know until GRRMs estate publishes his notes after his death (or we get Winds), but since this is a ASOIAF quest we should bear in mind for our purposes that people are perfectly capable of saying one thing and doing another.
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...no? I mean, this is directly stated by Oberyn to Tyrion: Willas bears him no ill will, and even correspends with him regularly. Which he wouldn't have said if he wanted to uphold a mirage. Where does that idea even come from? There are no grand conspiracies like that; Doran is actually a shit conspirator (as can be seen by how Trystan dies) and it's mostly just an increasingly drunk and deranged Cersei seeing shadows everywhere.
So what Oberyn says will pretty much be the truth: Willas bears him no ill will, the two are on good terms, but Mace absolutely resents him for maiming his heir (and Oberyn in turn blames Mace for sending out Willas to the jousts pre-maturely because he wanted a hero knight for an heir).
So yes, that maiming did rekindle the old family feud.
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My hypothesis:
Either he's going to be humiliated and angry, or he's going to decide that Rhaenyra is the hottest thing ever to walk the face of Planetos. There is, like, NO middle ground.
Well, the good news is that he took a pounding against Ser Raylon, worse than any of the hits we've taken, from the sound of it, and Ser Rogar may have knocked him around a bit too.Here's to hoping we won against Cole because I couldn't physically or emotionally stand being right below him in BOTH categories
The bad news is that as he demonstrated on Ser Rogar's torso, Ser Criston Cole may have gotten knocked around a bit, but he can still dish it out pretty good. We are not up against a lightweight.
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Huh. He *was* a bit of a misogynist in canon, but I still kinda hope he'll respect the sheer ability on display. For better or worse, this event is definitely going to have an impact on him when Rhaenyra's identity comes out.
Stop making me want a good pgte quest.having faced him twice and been defeated first convincingly and then narrowly, we're guaranteed to win our third contest.
I mean, she did kill Joffrey. You have to appreciate that.
Man, I'm gonna be so worried until the next chapter comes out lol.
Maybe a few more years and we invite him to join the City Watch as a gate Captain, or maybe after Rhaenyra gets knighted, get him as a squire.
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- Israel
Well shit, I was rooting for the Scarlet Spear to win. Seriously, I despise Unwine Peake in the books and I despise him here. The fact that he's now in the semifinals pisses me off. I just hope that he loses either to his current opponent or the winner between Rhaenyra and Cole.
I'm also shocked with the Borros round and glad he survived... for now. Let us hope that his opinion will change for the better and not for the worse.
Now my biggest fear is Viserys' reaction to all of this. He was furious when it came to the trial by combat, but this is on a different level entirely. That's why I'm so worried about it.
I'm also shocked with the Borros round and glad he survived... for now. Let us hope that his opinion will change for the better and not for the worse.
Now my biggest fear is Viserys' reaction to all of this. He was furious when it came to the trial by combat, but this is on a different level entirely. That's why I'm so worried about it.
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It's difficult because she is heeding his words? Like, this isn't a trial by combat, and it's not usual for people to die in this, whereas the whole point of a Trial By Combat is that someone is probably going to die.
So I'm not sure if it'd be "actual combat." But that doesn't mean he's going to like it.
So I'm not sure if it'd be "actual combat." But that doesn't mean he's going to like it.
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I figure that if Ser Criston can beat us, he'll probably beat Ser Unwin, unless we manage to beat him up pretty badly without defeating him and lose on points, which is possible and would be very unfortunate.
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It's not a "we're fucked" moment, but losing to Cole here would leave us having burned a Mystery Knight identity and "proven" that actually women can't joust because obviously if she doesn't excel she's nothing... and indeed as well winning the whole tourney would do a lot to blunt her father's critiques, honestly?
If we do lose we're going to have to redouble our training, make sure to try to practice basically every stop, more or less?
If we do lose we're going to have to redouble our training, make sure to try to practice basically every stop, more or less?
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Cue pan-Westeros '80s training montage
On a completely different note, speculating about us grooming a thirteen-year-old boy for marriage (even if humiliating Unwin Peake is a notable and glorious deed) is gross and creepy and we shouldn't do it.
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I don't think mystery knights are (necessarily) always revealed on losing? There are a lot of examples where they are, but hypothetically these would be over reported because it's recorded when a mystery knight is revealed & they turn out to be someone significant. Whereas a mystery knight who isn't revealed wouldn't be historically significant. It sounds like the winner gets to decide if they want to reveal the mystery knight.
Criston Cole is an ass but he's specifically that about the gender thing. When we interacted in the last update he seemed decent enough when he thought we were a man. And he's the son of a steward who probably assumes we're also a relative lowborn taking a shot at earning a knighthood. It seems plausible enough that he would let us keep our secret identity unless he suspects something.
Honestly can't remember anything about Borros personality so I just tend to copy+paste all Baratheon personality as Bobby B unless they're named Stannis or Renly lol so in my head, if he's even a bit like the Bobby B template, he'd probably at least find Rhaenyra a bit hot— for the better or for worse.
Tbh at this point I'm more concerned about fucking Unwin Peake over.
Like, words cannot describe how much I dislike this man, in canon he made himself out to be the pettiest little shit imaginable and probably a big source of fresh pain for poor Aegon III during his regency as Hand. Worst of all he probably spat all over Aegon's childhood about how his mother should've known her place. Ugh. He's just so unlikeable.
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I am glad people share my undying hatred for Unwin Peake
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C'mon, give him double-disadvantage on all of his rolls if he goes against us. Maybe he'll have to make survival rolls!
C'mon, give him double-disadvantage on all of his rolls if he goes against us. Maybe he'll have to make survival rolls!
PLEASE. He isn't even a good antagonist, he hates women so much he probably would have kids with his steward or something if he could.
I don't even know how he manages to be so unlikeable when he hasn't had like full Tv show seasons showing his awfulness, somehow Tywin manages to be less of an asshole in my eyes than him.
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Please, dice, don't make us have to root for Ser Criston for harm reduction's sake.
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What would be some other potential major stressors that would be comparable to the stress we gained from killing Arnie Arryn?
(that we know of)
Immediate thoughts are (severe) personal injury, something happening to Alicent or Syrax, Viserys' condition taking a turn for the worse, being dragged into some manner of political marriage (don't think Viserys would, but…), Daemon pulling some more bullshit… am I missing anything?
(that we know of)
Immediate thoughts are (severe) personal injury, something happening to Alicent or Syrax, Viserys' condition taking a turn for the worse, being dragged into some manner of political marriage (don't think Viserys would, but…), Daemon pulling some more bullshit… am I missing anything?
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Viserys Marrying Laena would have given Rhaenyra a huge amount of stress.
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Interestingly, at least per this, aiming for the head might not have been considered foul play, and in fact just considers it a better target. That ruleset also just concerns itself with scoring, there isn't any guidance for penalties or impermissible behavior. Some modern rulesets would dq someone for inflicting injury as a result of aiming off the shield though, which would include the head. Another modern ruleset I found considers any contact below the waistline grounds for a dq.
The more serious foul play and which would have been considered foul play in medieval times as well would be aiming for the horse (as Daemon does in the Heir's Tourney).
This is going off historical rules, presumably ASOIAF rules are slightly different. I think the implication they were going for with Daemon for instance was "underhanded and scummy move" rather than "explicitly illegal and grounds for a dq if your name isn't Daemon."
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Imperious
Without the sun of my life
The irony is that now that Unwin is in the semi finals he might actually end up winning the tourney if he rolls well in his match and if the winner between us or Cole gets badly enough injured in our joust.
We are dangerously close to the timeline of "Unwin Peake - Tournament Champion".
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