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That does make me wonder, Should we do a census? Do we currently have accurate information about how many people currently live on our glorious island? Also we should maybe do a military parade, cause that sounds fun!
 
One, but it is chonky. You also have a few geothermal hotspots that can be tapped, with some hotsprings scattered around.
Natural or man made? And de we have any resorts\Inns centered around them?
We'll need to put some work into our military before a parade.
2nd thing that happened in this quest was a parade.
That does make me wonder, Should we do a census? Do we currently have accurate information about how many people currently live on our glorious island? Also we should maybe do a military parade, cause that sounds fun!
I'd rather keep it vague. Let QM be flexible with the narrative.
Tell ya what though. I'd we lose enough people that our food<people becomes food>people then we have too few people.
 
Adhoc vote count started by Doccer on Feb 4, 2022 at 11:20 PM, finished with 45 posts and 13 votes.
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    [X] Plan: Infrastructure
    -[X] Build A Rudimentary Public Transit Bus System (Helpful) (-1 Reputation)
    -[X] Create New Housing (Helpful) (+1 People's Opinion)
    --[X] Use Large-Scale Energy Efficient Housing (Helpful) (+3 People's Opinion) (+2 Reputation)
    -[X] Build New Police Stations (Helpful) (+1 Reputation) (+1 People's Opinion)
    -[X] Construct Freezer Factory (Helpful) (+1 People's Opinion) (-1 Reputation)
    -[X] Construct Electrical Stove Factory (Helpful) (+1 People's Opinion) (-1 Reputation)
    -[X] Build A Rudimentary Train Network (Helpful) (+1 Reputation)
    -[X] Iron Tiger Assembly (1/3 to produce Iron Tigers)
    -[X] Create A Modern Iron Tiger (Create A Basic Design (Height, Weaponry, Crew, Safety, Body, etc.))
    -[X] Investigate Applications For WEISOFT
    -[X] Wei Jungming - (RP)
    --[X] Personal Actions
    ---[X] Test out the new transit system yourself (incognito of course)
    ---[X] Try living in the first of the new houses to be built as a test case and give your own thoughts on both the good and bad, hopefully in time to enact any necessary alterations in the design, as needed.
    --[X] Lover Action
    ---[X] Go on a trip into some of our native jungles. Have her show us around some of our country's most difficult terrain and make our security details work for their paychecks.
    [X] Plan: Can Fish Get Political Deux?
    -[X] Agri-, And Aquaculture (+1 to Dice for 2(two) Turns - Plan, +2 to Farming/Animal Husbandry (Chinese Experts), +2 to Farming/Fishing/Animal Husbandry (Technocrats))
    --[X] Assemble A 2nd Fishing Fleet (+1 People's Opinion)
    --[X] Assemble A Scuba Team to farm seaweed\kelp for additional food.
    -[X] Light Industry
    --[X] Improve Roads (Helpful) (+1 People's Opinion)
    --[X] Build A Rudimentary Public Transit Bus System (Helpful) (-1 Reputation)
    --[X] Design a Rudimentary Public Transit Train\Subway system for later.
    --[X] Use Large-Scale Energy Efficient Housing For cities and densely populated towns.
    --[X] Construct Freezer Factory (Helpful) (+1 People's Opinion) (-1 Reputation)
    -[X] Social (+4 to One(1) Roll - Omake)
    --[X] Praise Workers From (Industry) (Helpful/Harmful) (+1 People's Opinion)
    ---[X] Cannery, Fishery, and Farmers
    --[X] Boost (Social Statistic, example: Birthrates) (Helpful) (+1 People's Opinion)
    ---[X] Support for future plans for development of electric grid, road(tunnel?) construction and mining efforts.
    --[X] Propagandize Workers Conditions (Helpful) (+1 People's Opinion)
    -[X] Political
    --[X] Populists & Internationalists
    ---[X] Have our glorified paparazzi help the Nationalists by seeing the value of ad campaigning abroad to increase the desire of our trade goods to increase their market value. (-3 Reputation)
    --[X] International
    ---[X] Trade canned goods with NV to gain materials to buy food. (+2 Reputation) (+NV Relations) (-4 People's Opinion)
    -[X] Wei Jungming - (RP)
    --[X] Take a nap from all this running around.
    --[X] Find a hobby to destress
    --[X] Check on the Iron Tiger researchers to see if they haven't killed each other what design concepts the different schools of thought have come up with if any.
    --[X] Lover Action: Simply take the time to enjoy each other's company! You just got married. You should just enjoy that fact without any expectations.
 
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Scheduled vote count started by HeroCooky on Feb 2, 2022 at 7:05 PM, finished with 33 posts and 13 votes.
  • 14

    [X] Plan: Infrastructure
    [X] Plan: Can Fish Get Political Deux?
    -[X] Agri-, And Aquaculture (+1 to Dice for 2(two) Turns - Plan, +2 to Farming/Animal Husbandry (Chinese Experts), +2 to Farming/Fishing/Animal Husbandry (Technocrats))
    --[X] Assemble A 2nd Fishing Fleet (+1 People's Opinion)
    --[X] Assemble A Scuba Team to farm seaweed\kelp for additional food.
    -[X] Light Industry
    --[X] Improve Roads (Helpful) (+1 People's Opinion)
    --[X] Build A Rudimentary Public Transit Bus System (Helpful) (-1 Reputation)
    --[X] Design a Rudimentary Public Transit Train\Subway system for later.
    --[X] Use Large-Scale Energy Efficient Housing For cities and densely populated towns.
    --[X] Construct Freezer Factory (Helpful) (+1 People's Opinion) (-1 Reputation)
    -[X] Social (+4 to One(1) Roll - Omake)
    --[X] Praise Workers From (Industry) (Helpful/Harmful) (+1 People's Opinion)
    ---[X] Cannery, Fishery, and Farmers
    --[X] Boost (Social Statistic, example: Birthrates) (Helpful) (+1 People's Opinion)
    ---[X] Support for future plans for development of electric grid, road(tunnel?) construction and mining efforts.
    --[X] Propagandize Workers Conditions (Helpful) (+1 People's Opinion)
    -[X] Political
    --[X] Populists & Internationalists
    ---[X] Have our glorified paparazzi help the Nationalists by seeing the value of ad campaigning abroad to increase the desire of our trade goods to increase their market value. (-3 Reputation)
    --[X] International
    ---[X] Trade canned goods with NV to gain materials to buy food. (+2 Reputation) (+NV Relations) (-4 People's Opinion)
    -[X] Wei Jungming - (RP)
    --[X] Take a nap from all this running around.
    --[X] Find a hobby to destress
    --[X] Check on the Iron Tiger researchers to see if they haven't killed each other what design concepts the different schools of thought have come up with if any.
    --[X] Lover Action: Simply take the time to enjoy each other's company! You just got married. You should just enjoy that fact without any expectations.
 
Electrification, energy-efficient housing, electrical appliances… We should start on television soon. Get a huge lead on the upcoming soap opera craze. I believe it started to form even as early as the seventies. 🤔
 
Turn 9.1.1 - Iron Tiger Chassis
-[X] Create A Modern Iron Tiger (Create A Basic Design (Height, Weaponry, Crew, Safety, Body, etc.))
[X] Create A Modern Iron Tiger (Create A Basic Design (Height, Weaponry, Crew, Safety, Body, etc.))
(4+4=8 - Optimal)


'This is it,' you think, hard at work suppressing the gigantic smile that seems to insist on growing on your face. 'With this,' your inner thoughts continue as you look upon the growing factory underneath the mountain, workers, parts, machines, and excitement everywhere, 'we will not be a mere vassal.' And how right you are, for this is the culmination of nearly three years of concentrated work, devoted to this one moment where Guangchou steps up from a mere island.

And become a power in its own right once more like it had been nearly five decades hence.

Turning around and away from the hub of activity behind you, you turn to look at the gaggle of engineers, scientists, military designers, test-pilots, theorists, and economists talking animatedly about the upcoming project.

"Friends," you speak in an amicable tone, causing every voice to halt immediately, all eyes and heads turning to you. "Let us begin a work for which the world will never forget us. Let us create..." you speak, looking into the round of eager expertise and hungry ambition.

"An Iron Tiger."

Welcome to this discussion, where we will decide what the first native Iron Tiger can do, how it will look, what armaments it has, and the role we want to design it for. In that regard, civility is required, Zu; I'm looking at you, and above all else, this is not the place to push agendas. This machine will be our people's legacy. It will be the first that we can proudly declare to be brought by the people and the one that will ring forever in history.

So lets us begin with those heavy expectations in mind and finish with grins on our faces and satisfaction in our hearts!

The first thing on our agenda will be the Chassis, which will define everything following this point. As a reminder: One Meter of Height requires Three Tons of Machinery and Alloys to stabilize and uphold the Iron Tiger. Currently, we can only have a Height of Ten Meters. Therefore, we have Four Tons of arms, armor, and equipment per Meter.

With the creation of the Chassis, we will also define the role of the Iron Tiger and what armaments and equipment it can wield and field.

A chassis designed for long-range fire will have a better time firing, using, and aiming long-range weaponry. In contrast, a close-range Iron-Tiger will have the opposite, both suffering stress in their systems from mounting weaponry and equipment they weren't designed to hold.

After that, we can test and install all the fun toys R&D has cooked up in the last few years. So let's get going!

Chassis Locomotion
(1=Low, 5=High)

[] Humanoid
Piloting Skill: 2/5
Stability: 2/5
Production Cost: 1/5
Design Difficulty: 1/5

[] Quadrupedal
Piloting Skill: 4/5
Stability: 3/5
Production Cost: 2/5
Design Difficulty: 2/5

[] Sextupedal
Piloting Skill: 3/5
Stability: 4/5
Production Cost: 3/5
Design Difficulty: 4/5

[] Octapedal
Piloting Skill: 1/5
Stability: 5/5
Production Cost: 5/5
Design Difficulty: 4/5

Chassis Specialization (Choose 2)
(Reduces Cost, Weight, and Design difficulty for Weapons and Equipment in that category.)

[] Modular (Takes Two Points)
(No boni, no mali.)
[] Sniper
[] Artillery
[] Anti-Tank
[] Anti-Air
[] Anti-Infantry
[] Anti-Ship
[] Hunter-Killer
[] Support
[] Engineer
[] Melee

Height

(1M=3Tons Weight+4Tons Free)
[] Height Of XXX Meters

Actually, I have another idea...
[] (Write-In)


AN: Basically, describe the Iron Tiger, how high it is, its morphology, and the role you envision it will occupy. Your Chassis has a certain amount of tonnage free per meter, which you can assign to either armor or specific equipment. In the sense of Long-Range Guns, Melee Weaponry, Sytems like Night Vision, Targeting Computers, etc.

As this is the first Turn, you will create the Chassis only, followed by a Turn for Equipment and Weaponry each, culminating in the name and category vote.
 
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personally i think mechs should be reserved for combat on terrain where tanks are not feasible (mountainous,urban,forest etc),having an armored and relative fast marching infantry is an advantage on this enviroments

so a low height,heavy mech with armor and firepower to move and kill in closed spaces
because i dont see mechs outruning or outranging tanks (tanks are basically one big canon on a plataform,cant get more reliable for aiming than that)
so instead we should seek our unique niche doctrine for mechs

something like fallout sentry bots

 
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Ah damn. First should be military might I suppose. I wanted the first to be for mining.

Ok @HeroCooky if I understand the hints right we got conquered by China not because they were able to land on the island but by flight and bombing the shut out of us yeah?
So I think we need a Chassis that is small and nibble enough to maneuver thru the jungle and mountain areas yet has enough long range artillery to hit military planes and ships. A set of arms to pull itself up a cliff, raise a thick shield for extra protection from staffing fire and missiles. Or carry material to set up shelter once their fire exposes them or and exposed mountain top. Probably a autogun system for close quarters slash anti-missile weapon. Some sort of turbine or 3D movement gear for faster movement speed. Camo of course. Of course in the jungle it's easier to just move instead of holding a position.
@HeroCooky how mountainous is the island? Thick trees? Dense jungles? Quicksand? How much a danger is our own island to a heavy mech? What fuel does it use? Electric? Diesel? How long can the ones in the underground last? Approximately a modern one?
If electric batteries we might need to set up electric fueling stations across the island and say they're for our electric buses and what not. Covert.
 
mechs should be reserved for combat
Hmmm....actually, could we go with something more like mechanized engineers?

Give them some light-ish armament, but more equipment for construction/demolition, so they can function as enablers for heavier units - and have a civilian purpose as well?

Could also be something for later, I guess...
 
Ok @HeroCooky if I understand the hints right we got conquered by China not because they were able to land on the island but by flight and bombing the shut out of us yeah?
No, nobody outside of the island had ever managed to conquer the island with military means. The British used economy and political means to get you under their thumb for a few decades.

The Chinese never attacked you, they are your allies. But the balance of power is skewed so hard in their direction that you are basically a vassal even if neither you nor they say it. Both of you just stare at each other on that issue, both knowing that saying so out loud will result in them having to invade you.

The ones that tried to invade you were the IJN (Imperial Japanese Navy), but they failed hard and decided to bomb you back into the stone age for their defeat. The reason why you lack many things and are poor despite natural resources and strategic positioning indicating otherwise.
1. how mountainous is the island?
2.Thick trees?
3. Dense jungles?
4. Quicksand?
5. How much a danger is our own island to a heavy mech?
6. What fuel does it use? Electric? Diesel?
7. How long can the ones in the underground last?
8. Approximately a modern one?
1. You have a big ass volcano mountain, with a smaller range in the middle with hills going outwards.
2. 'Bout a third of your island has them.
3. Again, a third, centered around and on the mountain range in the middle.
4. None.
5. The Iron Tigers will be automaticaly designed to uphold their weight. The three tons of machinery per meter rule is for that.
6. Diesel
7. 1L = 3.2 km
8. 1L = 3.8km
 
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Hmmm....actually, could we go with something more like mechanized engineers?

Give them some light-ish armament, but more equipment for construction/demolition, so they can function as enablers for heavier units - and have a civilian purpose as well?

Could also be something for later, I guess...
I agree. Haaaah.
I just not sure about what the very first national mech should be. And what is to stop China from simply taking it from us?
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I think our mech should act as a MBT/SPA and be around 8 meters tall so it can be properly armed and armored as well as giving it a good LOS.
Nice.
There's this B anime called Knights and Magic. I couldn't find a clip of a particular scene on YouTube but there is this scene with 2 centaur Mecha pulling a massive chariot that acts as a charger for the mech on it. We could make some Tiger Mecha to pull a chariot of Mecha on it. The Tigers and Chariot could be just for speed and delivery of ammo and power?

View: https://youtu.be/JEdL9kngdJo
Or a Tiger with claws, a mouth of saws, and a artillery cannon on its back?

View: https://youtu.be/PcpyOwNusg8
 
personally i think mechs should be reserved for combat on terrain where tanks are not feasible (mountainous,urban,forest etc),having an armored and relative fast marching infantry is an advantage on this enviroments
I've seen this idea before and don't agree with the logic behind it. A legged vehicle is far less capable of navigating rough terrain than a wheeled or tracked vehicle of similar mass. The high and constantly shifting center of gravity, lack of traction, vulnerable and difficult to fix joints, and high ground pressure would make it a nightmare. Tho the sentry bot looks like it's on wheels anyway?
I sort of like that idea. Ditch the legs if that's allowed, use treads protected by a flared out metal body, with a rotating "torso" and grasping arms. It will operate like the tankette the bundeswehr uses (wiesel awc) but look like a lady in an enormous Victorian dress, or maybe a dalek.
 
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