I thought our Edu was decently high?
Paths of Civilization II: Paths of Industrialization
- Location
- Illinois
We keep selling it to other nations
Eh, our education is decent enough, considering how the stuff raises consciousness and high consciousness threatens to kill us. And really the two main ethnic groups in our empire having a shared language in not at all the worst thing that could happen to us.
- Location
- Somewhere over the rainbow
Now that I'm not double posting, more good news from the discord!
Academia Nut said:
KlinkerKing
Man bites dog?
- Location
- The Lion's Den
We lost a huge amount sending advisor to Hung
Woohoo! Medical revolution here we go! Just wait for that metagreen research to finish and things will get really good.
Hung and Black Sheep are tying up 2 Edu and 2 Inno total. The Sheep are able to pay though.
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KlinkerKing
Man bites dog?
- Location
- The Lion's Den
That's my bad, I thought Hung was 2 Edu (out of our then 5)
The Sending Advisors effects both tie 1 point of the relevant stat(s) in exchange for 2 points of SoL.
- Location
- Illinois
Considering 1 edu and inno cost 1 SoL, that's actually an incredibly good deal, amusingly enough.
Just don't forget to also raise SoL for when the drip stops.
- Location
- his hidden lair
Or, as I prefer to see it- to ensure we're the only continental superpower
I don't think anyone can really deny the martial prowess of the Dual Monarchy now.
No surprise. The countries far enough behind to need the effects of it are generally too desperate to do too much haggling, and not all the countries ahead enough to be able to sell advisors do it.
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Yes, never really stopped countries from doing so though. They're going to want to grab the resource rich territory no other large organized state is holding, so they will try this regardless.
Their not caring is on thin grounds. They have practical reasons of resource acquisition, lack of significant opposition(seriously, nothing there is up to dealing with the Khemetri industrialized army, though they'd need jungle warfare doctrine to do the job) and a portion of national pride to reacquire the glories of the past, however tenous.
They'll certainly try sweeping down, especially when it comes to taking the coasts and major waterways.
The primary reason for intervention is to back up our promises to our allies, and this is how it's handled in the halls of power. The propaganda, based on our current cultural techs, is going to be more about national pride and restoring 'proper order' to the world than saving the Syffrynites, especially when our current imperial stance is that we don't want that land(whereas the salvation propaganda stance is going to push towards keeping it to save them properly)
The whole thing with the Southeast Asia claim is that if pushed the HEKC is entirely willing to unleash mercenaries on our affliates there, and we can't retaliate without getting our ass kicked at sea there.
Ergo, it's a very hollow grip.
The CCP was a perfect storm cooked up by the Syffryn powers, and then augmented by Syffryn hero units. We simply turned an extant resistance force into a sovereign country.
This is not magic, because the Southeast Asia region is a patchwork of minor states which spends a lot of their time performing piracy on each other, except for the Sketch colonies. They are the power of the region, and we can't begin to contest them until the Hung get their feet back under them.
And a matter of who hates us and how much after we're done.
If it burned out and then we came to the 'rescue', the Tortun natives are going to have a much better view of things.
ExNihilo
SPACE!
- Location
- USA
- Pronouns
- He/Him
In reference to the Black Sheep?
- Location
- Somewhere over the rainbow
Considering the events of the past twenty in game years, this omake has gotten much funnier.
HanEmpire
Delicious
Yes.
Also:
HanEmpire said:
Academia Nut said:
- Location
- his hidden lair
I'm curious, how much of our alliances with Khem and BS are motivated by genuine like and well regards towards each other by both parties by this point in addition to shared national interests? These are some fairly enduring alliances and everyone's profited from them nicely.
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Alliance between Khem and Black Sheep? They don't really share anything with each other except as trade partners.
- Location
- his hidden lair
I meant both of our alliances with them. I'll edit for clarity.
- Location
- madison
I think at this point it's sort of one and the same. The relationship has been so valuable for so long the idea that it's a long-term good thing, even if it's not great today has been driven into everyone's head. So it's seen as a benefit in and of itself.
- Location
- Illinois
It's also nice to have a border that you don't have to garrison a large portion of your army at. It'd be much harder for the BS to resist the Sketch, or the Khem to resist the Hes if they had to worry about a dispute on our border, so keeping good relations is a good thing for them.
New Party Preview
- Pronouns
- He/Him
No update tonight, but have a preview of the new party system to argue about over the next day.
Party Report
Royalist Party - The upper nobility and military leaders who support Crown power. Ambition: Kyberi Ambition (active). Primary Objective: Army Rearmament, Secondary Objective: Naval Expansion. Preferred Means: Rapid Development, Industrial Subsidies, Cut Education Funding. Avoided Means: Cut Military Budgets. Power: 3 (Lead Party, -1 PW Cost for Primary Objective)
Conservative Party - The collection of nobles, clergy, and people who prefer traditions to new ways. Ambition: Kyberi Ambition (active). Primary Objective: Maximize Max Development, Secondary Objective: Max Hospitals. Preferred Means: Rapid Development, Industrial Subsidies. Avoided Means: Cut Education Funding. Power: 2
Liberal Party - Major merchants and corporate leaders. Ambition: Sun Never Sets (not active). Primary Objective: Max IC, Secondary Objective: Max SoL. Preferred Means: Rapid Development, Industrial Subsidies, Sell Crown Corp, Trade Missions. Avoided Means: Use of Loans. Power: 1
Urban Workers Party (Minor) - Urban lower and middle class. Primary Objective: Max IC, Secondary Objective: Pollution <0. Preferred Means: Rapid Development, Railroads. Avoided Means: Sell Crown Corp. Power: -2
Farmers Party (Minor) - Rural peasants and freemen. Primary Objective: Maximize Max Development, Secondary Objective: No Pollution. Preferred Means: Settlement and Population Growth. Avoided Means: Rapid Development. Power: -2
Proposed Initial Budget:
R: Increase Armies (+0 Armies, +1 Rearm Progress, -1 IC)
R: Rapid Development (-2 temp IC, +2 IC, +1 Pollution)
R: Industrial Subsidies (-1 temp SoL, +1 temp IC)
C: Industrial Subsidies (+1 temp Consciousness, +1 temp IC) -> Conservatives gain 1 Power from Royalists
C: Suppress Agitators (-1 temp Consciousness, +2 temp Militancy)
L: Sell Crown Corp (+2 temp SoL)
Parties would prefer more efficient development, will require more PW invested to sell more CCs and send more trade missions for SoL and temp IC.
Econ
Industrial Cap 8 (0) (Max. 8+75%)
Development 31/47+25%
Loans 0
Pollution 1 (1)
Infrastructure
Railroads 2/3
Sewers 0/6
Hospitals 0/3
Culture
Consciousness 3 (12)
Standard of Living 6 (12)
Happiness 6 (4)/10
Research
Academies 4/4
Mil Academies 1/2
Education 4
Innovation 10 (16)
Diplomacy
Trust 10 (6)
Espionage 7 (6)
Martial
Militancy 5
Armies 8 (9)
Navies 6 (4)
Political Will 12/20
Party Report
Royalist Party - The upper nobility and military leaders who support Crown power. Ambition: Kyberi Ambition (active). Primary Objective: Army Rearmament, Secondary Objective: Naval Expansion. Preferred Means: Rapid Development, Industrial Subsidies, Cut Education Funding. Avoided Means: Cut Military Budgets. Power: 3 (Lead Party, -1 PW Cost for Primary Objective)
Conservative Party - The collection of nobles, clergy, and people who prefer traditions to new ways. Ambition: Kyberi Ambition (active). Primary Objective: Maximize Max Development, Secondary Objective: Max Hospitals. Preferred Means: Rapid Development, Industrial Subsidies. Avoided Means: Cut Education Funding. Power: 2
Liberal Party - Major merchants and corporate leaders. Ambition: Sun Never Sets (not active). Primary Objective: Max IC, Secondary Objective: Max SoL. Preferred Means: Rapid Development, Industrial Subsidies, Sell Crown Corp, Trade Missions. Avoided Means: Use of Loans. Power: 1
Urban Workers Party (Minor) - Urban lower and middle class. Primary Objective: Max IC, Secondary Objective: Pollution <0. Preferred Means: Rapid Development, Railroads. Avoided Means: Sell Crown Corp. Power: -2
Farmers Party (Minor) - Rural peasants and freemen. Primary Objective: Maximize Max Development, Secondary Objective: No Pollution. Preferred Means: Settlement and Population Growth. Avoided Means: Rapid Development. Power: -2
Proposed Initial Budget:
R: Increase Armies (+0 Armies, +1 Rearm Progress, -1 IC)
R: Rapid Development (-2 temp IC, +2 IC, +1 Pollution)
R: Industrial Subsidies (-1 temp SoL, +1 temp IC)
C: Industrial Subsidies (+1 temp Consciousness, +1 temp IC) -> Conservatives gain 1 Power from Royalists
C: Suppress Agitators (-1 temp Consciousness, +2 temp Militancy)
L: Sell Crown Corp (+2 temp SoL)
Parties would prefer more efficient development, will require more PW invested to sell more CCs and send more trade missions for SoL and temp IC.
Econ
Industrial Cap 8 (0) (Max. 8+75%)
Development 31/47+25%
Loans 0
Pollution 1 (1)
Infrastructure
Railroads 2/3
Sewers 0/6
Hospitals 0/3
Culture
Consciousness 3 (12)
Standard of Living 6 (12)
Happiness 6 (4)/10
Research
Academies 4/4
Mil Academies 1/2
Education 4
Innovation 10 (16)
Diplomacy
Trust 10 (6)
Espionage 7 (6)
Martial
Militancy 5
Armies 8 (9)
Navies 6 (4)
Political Will 12/20
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- Location
- Hell