wait....
There is a spell to find people from even half remembered memories, right? Can... Can we use that to find the splintered spirits of Hallr Blackhand? or would we need a version that seeks out spirits for that?
 
I'm not sure that would work on someone who's, y'know, dead. And if it did, I suspect that if we used magic to look for Blackhand, it would direct us towards ourselves for obvious reasons (the only part of Blackhand we remember is the part inside us). If we used, like, Steinarr's memories we'd likely get whoever had a shard of Blackhand and was closest...but that would still also be us. Someone else could maybe find any other shards of Blackhand that way, but I think we'd probably always get in our own way.
 
Speaking off martial arts we should probably ask the berserk we know if there any berserker specific martial arts. It makes sense that there would be.
 
Sure, but you don't spontaneously manifest Styles generally speaking. Someone still needs to teach them to you. The culture is a necessary prerequisite but living in a culture by itself does not teach you the style...Steinarr did not learn a style just by living near the Golden Chain, he went and trained on it. We have not spontaneously manifested any styles local to Agder or the Hading...we'd need a teacher.

We did pick up level 1 in our family style on our own, but we didn't have the ability to increase it...that required training.

I didn't say "spontaneously"? Obviously it requires effort. We learned Stoker State it via training with Steinarr because that is how it happened, and I think it was the easiest route open to us, but I'd be willing to bet we could have done it in other ways too, via training/experimentation with FTB or maybe through studying the Hading fight.

We know that it's possible to create new Styles, so it's silly to continue arguing about whether it's possible. Obviously it's difficult, but there are a lot of difficult things which are long-term aspirations for us in the quest.
 
Speaking off martial arts we should probably ask the berserk we know if there any berserker specific martial arts. It makes sense that there would be.

I'm skeptical, but it's worth talking to Audrikr about berserk stuff anyway, so we should do that when we have the time...it might be a minute.

I didn't say "spontaneously"? Obviously it requires effort. We learned Stoker State it via training with Steinarr because that is how it happened, and I think it was the easiest route open to us, but I'd be willing to bet we could have done it in other ways too, via training/experimentation with FTB or maybe through studying the Hading fight.

We know that it's possible to create new Styles, so it's silly to continue arguing about whether it's possible. Obviously it's difficult, but there are a lot of difficult things which are long-term aspirations for us in the quest.

Sure, but I suspect that's not only long term but something we need a lot more expertise and then to put active effort into, plus needing a cultural touchstone to build it around. Not impossible, by any means, but also not by any means an inevitability or something we know the first thing about how to do as of yet.
 
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Sure, but I suspect that's not only long term but something we need a lot more expertise and then to put active effort into, plus needing a cultural touchstone to build it around. Not impossible, by any means, but not by any means an inevitability or something we know how to do as of yet.

I doubt that the process is really one which has a set method per se; it probably just requires you to be sufficiently badass, and then have some sort of core experience or identity to use at the nucleus to build your Style around. This would also match how it seems to go in other Wuxia/Xianxia.

The Hading Style seems like a candidate here because Halla has spent her whole life here. Looking at the memory of the Blackhand/Hasvir fight might also give her something useful to go off. Although it's possible that to have a sufficient "Anchor" to make it a Core Style, the identity of the Hading might need to be restored or renewed in some sense, maybe through the Drysalt questline or by some other means.
 
The Hading Style seems like a candidate here because Halla has spent her whole life here. Looking at the memory of the Blackhand/Hasvir fight might also give her something useful to go off. Although it's possible that to have a sufficient "Anchor" to make it a Core Style, the identity of the Hading might need to be restored or renewed in some sense, maybe through the Drysalt questline or by some other means.

I doubt that we will be able to create/recreate the Hading Style, but we might be able to learn the Jurdgby Style or something similar. The Hading Style is good as dead, given the Hading's merging with Jurdgby, the fact that we're not really all that integrated into the actual community of the Hading and that everyone who knew the thing is dead. I don't think we'd be making a style with the Hading as an anchor anytime soon.
 
But she is a bit aside from everyone else, see: Her not knowing about Drysalt.

I mean, not everyone, she's definitely a part of the immigrant community of the Hading (which is a not insignificant portion of the population)...but yeah, I dunno if there's enough of a cultural touchstone left to remake it if it's a dead style. It's possible, but I wouldn't say it's likely.
 
I doubt that we will be able to create/recreate the Hading Style, but we might be able to learn the Jurdgby Style or something similar. The Hading Style is good as dead, given the Hading's merging with Jurdgby, the fact that we're not really all that integrated into the actual community of the Hading and that everyone who knew the thing is dead. I don't think we'd be making a style with the Hading as an anchor anytime soon.

It would necessarily be a new or at least recreated Style reflecting a new identity forming amongst of the people who've come to live in the Hading, yes. However I think that looking at the memory of the fight in the woods might still give us some useful clues/something to work from.

The "Jurgdby Style" is something I'd guess that the Kyrsvikingar and Jarl Corpsemaker might want to exercise some control over. Although I'd guess the Kyrsvikinga's signature style is something a bit more specific to their Warband, and the Jurgdby Style if it exists is a secondary one also shared with some locals.
 
We could do the Tafl game writein (originally with Stigs dad) with Audrik.
Stigulf Snowbeard is Stigr's eldest brother. Stigr's dad is Kerr Longshot, who died on a raid.
I mean, not everyone, she's definitely a part of the immigrant community of the Hading (which is a not insignificant portion of the population)...but yeah, I dunno if there's enough of a cultural touchstone left to remake it if it's a dead style. It's possible, but I wouldn't say it's likely.
Realistically recreating it would be a matter of going to Folkvangr or Asgard or somewhere and then get Hasvir Hadinghero to teach us the martial style.

"Wait. Hallr Blackhand? Didn't you kill me? Now you want me to teach you the Hading Style?"
"Look, it was a really long time ago, we can let bygones be bygones?"
"Maybe. What happened to my son Horra? What news do you have of him?"
"Um.."

Anyway it's not just not a cultural touchstone for Halla, she's just not part of the Hading culture at all. Even if the Hading style wasn't dead and it's culture gone I'm not sure if Halla could learn it from a Hading master even.

Personally I imagine if we learn a style from watching the fight it would be one of Hallr's styles.
 
The convention of getting incomplete styles from the remnant of an old monster is a xianxia staple so it might be cool if that happen even if I'm sure it won't be that easy.

A Hallr style would be pretty neato though.
 
I'm skeptical, but it's worth talking to Audrikr about berserk stuff anyway, so we should do that when we have the time...it might be a minute.
It would make sense that there is something, being a berserk is a respected position in the culture and I wouldn't be surprised if you could anchor a fighting style (if not multiple) to it.

It actually makes sense too as frenzy alone doesn't explain why berserks are so feared/respected, having a fighting style unique to them would bring a lot of extra power to the table.

All styles need to have some kind of anchor to be built upon. Whether that's some inheritable ability, a cultural pillar, a powerful figure,
Like there is a good argument to be had that the position of a berserk is a cultural pillar.
 
I've been playing around with the idea of starting our Book Writing Project soon. And with that in mind, I have a question @Imperial Fister !

Do we need something special in order to try and reverse engineer how the book is made? I know we easily have all of the materials we need to make an old style Codex on hand (We can make the cover either through leather binding or embroidery.) We have an example of a finished one on hand to study, and all that.

Would we need a special Trick to actually reverse engineer it, or would this primarily just be a Research Die Investment thing? We've even got the precursor to a Codex in the form of that wax stylus thingie.

If we Treasure Bind the book too, we might even be able to Realize it once we have a functioning design. Hypothetically speaking anyway.
 
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Was answered a while back, I think Halla and Abjorn are slated as "Nice kids but a bit young and arrogant as you'd expect from youths."

Yeah, I know that, but I want to know how they view our family more than how they view Halla. Actually, how have they viewed us up till now? From initial immigration to the present? Unless we'd need to ask Steinarr in quest to get that info.

It actually makes sense too as frenzy alone doesn't explain why berserks are so feared/respected, having a fighting style unique to them would bring a lot of extra power to the table.

Feels like Frenzy is being somewhat underestimated here? They get psuedo-endurance, on top of being able to foresee someone's next moves in a fight. That's definitely worth the fear/respect they get when an experienced Berserk can completely shut down your entire strategy before it even begins.
 
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I've been playing around with the idea of starting our Book Writing Project soon. And with that in mind, I have a question @Imperial Fister !
Would you be on board with doing "make a poem about muna 'below a falling tree' (first kiss with Abjorn, Standstill Hugareida)" and then setting up a Runestone with said peom in our soulspace as a prelude to that?
Doing a first big thing to remember, getting teaching via poetry, and getting efficient writing (paper / velum + ink) as sort of tech tree prerequisites to starting book writing.
 
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