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NorseQuest (A Norse Xianxia)

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Constenanto said:
Also, I thought Veny was married to Harald, Wolfwind's son? Not Hardir, who is her brother...? Oh wait, Harald is Wolfwind's name, isn't it? Nevermind.
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Harald is Wolfwind, Hardir is his son. So we bailed his son out of danger too, that's a significant Debt he owes to us now.

Imperial Fister said:
Damnation!

Ah well, at least I got the threadmark ri-...

Damnation^2!

Veny's brother is Hirkir. Harald is Wolfwind's name. Hardir is Wolfwind's son.

Lotta 'H' names.
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On that note, Hasvir is just KOed, not Dead, right? Not ready to move about on his own for now but probably out of danger of his life, right?

Still, a pretty nasty surprise, but it looked like we weathered that pretty well. If everyone else's performance largely matched Halla's, they should have been sent off with relatively minor injuries and a bit more fatigue each.

Now what remains is the Boss Fight. Whatever it is.
 
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How long does it take for orthstirr and aspects to be refilled again? Even though I know our aspects won't refill during this scenario.
 
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Constenanto said:
How long does it take for orthstirr and aspects to be refilled again? Even though I know our Aspects won't refill during this scenario.
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Variable. As long as it takes to 'catch your breath'. We recovered one Aspect between the Squire and the theoretical Knight fight during the Manor Raid, for example (we had some action choices at that point and picked that one).

So it can be just a few minutes. It depends.
 
Imperial Fister said:
Correct. The poison isn't the lethal kind, it's just intense pain followed by utter exhaustion. And also emetic effects.

Horra likes to gloat. Or rather, he liked to.
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Yikes, that's a nasty poison. I'm guessing Horra made it himself, too, the bastard. It's ironic that it ended up being used against his own son, rather than his sworn enemy's spawn.

By the way, is using poison on a weapon nid?
 
Constenanto said:
Yikes, that's a nasty poison. I'm guessing Horra made it himself, too, the bastard. It's ironic that it ended up being used against his own son, rather than his sworn enemy's spawn.
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I mean, given that Horra triggered this on his own home after discovering his son betrayed him, I would call that 'working as intended', honestly. Like, Horra was a piece of shit, but he clearly very much aimed to hit his family with this attack when he made it.
 
DeadmanwalkingXI said:
I mean, given that Horra triggered this on his own home after discovering his son betrayed him, I would call that 'working as intended', honestly. Like, Horra was a piece of shit, but he clearly very much aimed to hit his family with this attack when he made it.
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It almost seems like a purge system. Like once he killed Steinarr he was going to hit that button no matter what, to clean up the no-longer-needed things he'd built for his revenge.
 
DeadmanwalkingXI said:
I mean, given that Horra triggered this on his own home after discovering his son betrayed him, I would call that 'working as intended', honestly. Like, Horra was a piece of shit, but he clearly very much aimed to hit his family with this attack when he made it.
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Ironic in the sense that 'wow, this poison will do wonders against Steinarr!', not 'how will Steinarr and his ilk enjoy this poison?!'.

Imperial Fister said:
It is the very definition of nid.

Proper combat is your skill going up against your enemy's skill. The winner is the better fighter (luck is part of being a good fighter).

Using poison is circumventing that.

Anyways, I'm calling this one in 30 minutes.
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Oh, huh. If you had an ability that worked similar to poison, and did DoT or some other long-lasting debuff, would it still be nid?
 
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The Lone badger said:
It almost seems like a purge system. Like once he killed Steinarr he was going to hit that button no matter what, to clean up the no-longer-needed things he'd built for his revenge.
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I don't think so, he seemed to actually care about Hasvir and Veny at the very least, even if he was shitty to them...until he found out they betrayed him. I think it was more like a panic button he was intending to use when their home was under attack that he repurposed for this.
 
Constenanto said:
Oh, huh. If you had an ability that worked similar to poison, and did DoT or some other long-lasting debuff, would it still be nid?
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Depends if it was something you can prepare in advance. Wounding someone is perfectly fine, choosing your battleground is fine, preparing a poison and slathering it on your weapon before battle though so you can drop it on them by surprise? Not fine.

But like, say, a Plant based Hugareida that had a sophorific effect on people struck with its Tricks would be fine. The main distinction it seems is that the other guy needs to have a chance to identify it and counteract it. Bringing an envenomed dagger that cripples the other guy and then hitting them by surprise is not okay.

The other thing of course is that Poison and stuff like this doesn't require skill, it just requires you to have the right toy. A Hugareida always requires skill to have, almost by definition.
 
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It's crazy, to be honest...

Like Hasvir said, Horra's farm was prestigious as fuck. Huge, with a bunch of farmhands to boot. Yet he was willing to throw all of that away in his quest to kill Steinarr. Honestly, I'm surprised he thought his children would've still sided with him had he destroyed their entire livelihood over his feud. He never took the time to actually get to know his children.
 
Hey Blackhand? Could I use EWC with Emberwind for better speed or would that be a whole new trick I'd have to learn?
 
Oh yeah folks, we're now back to Halla's historical peak in terms of Orthstirr! Also, we're back to getting 12 Odr per turn as well. Rejoice! When our Aspects reach 117, we'll be up to 13.
 
One thing to note is that concealing, say, a weapon is totally fine (depending on circumstances, obviously. if you've agreed to meet somewhere and not to bring weapons, bringing a concealed weapon is nid). An example of this is hiding another weapon in your shield, which you then whip out to catch your enemy off-guard.
CedeTheBees said:
Hey Blackhand? Could I use EWC with Emberwind for better speed or would that be a whole new trick I'd have to learn?
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'You could with a perfected Ember-Winged Cloak, yes.'
 
That an envenomed weapon is treated differently than a weapon doing lightning damage because it was forged from storm iron is just one of those moments where cultural ideas don't make sense from a neutral pov.
 
Imperial Fister said:
One thing to note is that concealing, say, a weapon is totally fine (depending on circumstances, obviously. if you've agreed to meet somewhere and not to bring weapons, bringing a concealed weapon is nid). An example of this is hiding another weapon in your shield, which you then whip out to catch your enemy off-guard.

'You could with a perfected Ember-Winged Cloak, yes.'
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Huh, so Perfected Tricks can also freely be used with related Hugareida without having to re-learn the whole thing?

Toboe said:
That an envenomed weapon is treated differently than a weapon doing lightning damage because it was forged from storm iron is just one of those moments where cultural ideas don't make sense from a neutral pov.
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On the contrary, Envenoming a weapon is perfectly fine, as long as you do it after hostilities have been declared and the other guy can clearly see you doing it.

It's envenoming the weapon before violence has broken out that's very much a no-go. Because that's not your strength and skill against the other guy's anymore.
 
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Sidenote apropos of nothing: We still get (slightly reduced) bonuses from secondary Kennings. That's sweet.

Imperial Fister said:
'You could with a perfected Ember-Winged Cloak, yes.'
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Another reason to Perfect Ember-Wing Cloak. We're getting there, folks, we're getting there...it's probably still a few years down the road, but a few years, not forever.

Toboe said:
That an envenomed weapon is treated differently than a weapon doing lightning damage because it was forged from storm iron is just one of those moments where cultural ideas don't make sense from a neutral pov.
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Not really? Those are actually pretty different...Storm Iron just adds damage, it doesn't debilitate. Complaining about it is like complaining about using weapons in the first place since all it does is make you hit a little harder.

Poison is another matter, and debilitates or kills without requiring much in the way of skill. It allows an incompetent coward to fell a mighty warrior, and that's what the culture objects to.
 
Toboe said:
That an envenomed weapon is treated differently than a weapon doing lightning damage because it was forged from storm iron is just one of those moments where cultural ideas don't make sense from a neutral pov.
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Uh, no? The lightning damage is apart of the weapon. Sure, it helps, but it doesnt trivialise a fight like poison does. Meanwhile, poison takes no skill whatsoever, and can take down someone way more skilled than you from a lucky hit.
 
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