NorseQuest (A Norse Xianxia)

[Alectai]

I think that's honestly the trick behind the Three Fundamental Truths. They're not limiters, they're an instruction manual of what we're supposed to do

The First Fundamental Truth: "Power Requires Sacrifice"
This one's pretty obvious, but the sheer scope of it is far beyond it. You're always paying something for Power, but some Sacrifices are more valuable than others. Sacrifices of time, energy, and money are sacrifices too. But you can always burn your life to accomplish something of utmost importance, if that's what you need. It means that there's no such thing as an Easy Path to Power--and if you think you've found one, chances are someone's trying to take you for a ride.

The Second Fundamental Truth: "All Men Die"
Nothing lasts forever, even Gods will eventually wither and fade when their time comes, and the weight of their deeds catches up to them. But this is also a promise, that no living being is beyond your reach. That there's no such thing as a being that cannot be slain, and if they're trying to convince you of their invincibility, they're trying to take you for a ride.

The Third Fundamental Truth: "Memory Is Forever"
You can never bury a secret so far and so deep that it'll never be found again. Hallr himself is the greatest example of this. Even though he lost many of his memories, they're not entirely beyond recovery--and more importantly, The Enemy tried to cut him off, and yet he managed to pull a Sacrifice that insured what he knew would never be lost so long as his line existed. If someone tries to tell you that what you need to know is lost to time, they're trying to take you for a ride.

The Three Fundamental Truths? They're not threats, they're promises. A guidepost for how to avoid the Enemy's machinations.

I'm definitely down with giving it a try. Playing around with the odr we already have (maybe trying to use it to nurture our new spirit plant...virthing and saemd might also be worth experimenting with for that) is also acceptable, I think. It's trying to get more odr that needs to wait until after we give birth.

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Yeah, at the end of the day, what we need to do is figure out if we can store woven Virthing and Saemd in our soul, and that this doesn't lock us out from regenerating our Aspects once we've turned them into their own, self-sustaining thing.

If we can draw that line between Woven Virthing and Saemd, and our Aspects, then we might manage to turn that from a sacrifice of ourselves into a sacrifice of time and energy, which is vastly more affordable.

 

[Shard]

I'm wondering then if we can use our Virthing and Saemd together to weave something that lasts in our Soul Space, build up a threshold of it, and then sacrificially ignite it using our Frami during a period where our other Aspects are intact (Because we did the Work in advance of course). In short, we almost fucking died before because we sacrificed our Virthing and Saemd while they were still attached to us, effectively almost pulling an Odin (But without being a God who can survive sacrificing yourself to yourself)

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Thinking about this further, what we actually want to do is, 'use up' Virthing and Saemd while it's inside out soul.

It twists and turns, spinning and weaving in your soul. It's barely there, almost completely unnoticeable in the whirling strands of crimson power wrapping around themselves, in and out, over and over again — one part of singed feathers, the other of flaming iron. It curls, spinning into a ring of mouth on tail as it descends through your body.

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This is either helical or an ouroboros.

As it rests and waits, the light of virthing and saemd weaving into one length shines all throughout your being. Into every nook and cranny, corner and crevice it flows, revealing all there is to see in the empty, barren landscape of you soul.

The only thing in existence in the void is a locked and barred gate, facing out and away from the empty abyss at the very edge, the barrier between the inner and the outer.

But even as patient as virthing and saemd may be, it simply lacks the staying power of... of something.

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Frami doesn't really have staying power.

The tripartite combo doesn't have that much staying power either, it unraveled in 1 hour (Virthing + Saemd = 6 Hours)

Eyes closed and brows furrowed, you hone your focus to a razor-sharp point as frami whirls about your body. It feels... almost more *malleable* with your full supply of orthstirr providing a sort of buoyancy to its movements.

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Frami is more 'malleable' than Virthing or Saemd.

Yeah, at the end of the day, what we need to do is figure out if we can store woven Virthing and Saemd in our soul, and that this doesn't lock us out from regenerating our Aspects once we've turned them into their own, self-sustaining thing.

If we can draw that line between Woven Virthing and Saemd, and our Aspects, then we might manage to turn that from a sacrifice of ourselves into a sacrifice of time and energy, which is vastly more affordable.

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So something like..

Step 1: Virthing (Charged) + Saemd (Charged) -> Virthing (Expended) + Samed (Expended) + 'Virthing/Saemd-Cloth-thing'
Step 2: Virthing/Saemd Cloth-Thing (in soulscape) + Frami (Charged) -> [Gate Opens] -> Odr + Frami (Expended)

Possible issues:

1. Aspected Orthsirr is drained away fast. It's possible that the Virthing-Saemd-Cloth 'produce' is subject to this as well. This would put a time constraint on how long you would have until you need to burn it with Frami, meaning you have to do it in one session.
2. While it is likely that the KO processes due to the tripartite Aspects being combined, it's also possible that it is due to the Gate being opened/etc (I personally find this possibility unlikely).

...Though this brings something up.

Is it just me, or do we seem to get Muna more often in fights when we've used up all our Orthsirr, included Aspected Orthsirr? I remember Fister saying this.

I'll give you a hint towards learning hugareida: spar with Eric and do well enough that he's forced to reach into his bag of tricks.
And a hint towards muna: witness a warrior be pushed to the limit

If you want a book, you might want to go raid a monastery, both for a book and someone to teach you how to read it

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Could the 'process' of gaining a Muna be related to Aspects in some way, especially as they relate to Orthsirr?

 

[Exmorri]

The First Fundamental Truth: "Power Requires Sacrifice"
This one's pretty obvious, but the sheer scope of it is far beyond it. You're always paying something for Power, but some Sacrifices are more valuable than others. Sacrifices of time, energy, and money are sacrifices too. But you can always burn your life to accomplish something of utmost importance, if that's what you need. It means that there's no such thing as an Easy Path to Power--and if you think you've found one, chances are someone's trying to take you for a ride.

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The flipside:
Non-sacrificial power exists, buts gets integrated into the baseline and people take it for granted.

To the first settlers who wandered up from the nice warm Mediterranean, "Power Requires Sacrifice" might have seemed like the description of a hunting-trip risking your life to kill some bears and take their furs so that you wouldn't die in the terrible Norwegian winter that cut through your regular clothes.

For Halla, Norwegian winter clothing is now a background assumption and part of a line on the management tab of the character sheet, "7 Fine Ewes (4 Cloth/Success Rolled)".

 

[Bass11]

I have to wonder how many legends have spurred on the Norse people accidentally rediscover some old faucet of their own cultivation with them creating new legends spurring on new people to discover more stuff about their cultivation system. Normally, I suppose in a vacuum the Norse people will cultivate onward without any too much prodding on their own but with so many things against them they're kind of stymied not to mention the pitfalls and traps that the enemy has placed in their way.

 

[DeadmanwalkingXI]

This is either helical or an ouroboros.

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Seems a reference to Jormungand, who is basically the latter.

 

[TheCount]

Interesting chapter!

And lucky us, we can just drop the pole to the headman and let this be HIS problem!

"I saw — with my fylgja! — a horse that I believe to be this one's sire. A champion fighter by the name of 'Stronghoof'."

With that said, you turn to the pole and read out the runes carved into the wood.

'Let all the Little-Watchers bear witness to Stronghoof's Sireling. Let them know no rest till ESONTRIARWOR is driven from the land in mind, body, and soul. May any who dare disrupt this righteous act have their face suffer worse than the downy-cheeks of RJUNNTABLS. Let all who continue learn the pain of Thorthur Skarfr meeting Helgi Droplaugarson.'

"So..." You begin while running thumb and forefinger along chin and jaw, "who did you say Stronghoof belonged to?"

"A man called Hasvir," Aki says with a shrug. "He didn't give his father's name, but he had a lot of money so Runar let him join. A mistake, turns out, as Stronghoof demolished the competition. Killed three horses before the day was out."

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We dont even need to mention we sent the troll for whoever sold it the hill...
Just drop the pole, and suggest he ask whoever this Hasvir sold any of Stronghoof's sirelings.
Its just a coincidence said owner is Horra's son.... the same Horra our dear father spent his life hunting down.

What i am wondering though... would it be extra double Nid what they did, what with our mom being sick at the time? Do remember, it has been there for a time.... so it very well might have been the thing that killed her.

My main reason why i don't want to tell him about what we saw where the troll went is because its just too convenient.
But we do have a friend who heard about Stronghoof and remembered its owner, hence the suggestion where to look.

 

[Shard]

We should ask Aki exactly how long ago his dad hosted the stallion fight.

And see if his Hasvir looks the same as the Hasvir we saw.

 

[Sirrocco]

I'm noticing... Fylgia specialists in norsequest... I get the impression that they tend to be kind of messed up in some way. Like, we know two. One was a physical coward, and the other was blind from birth. I guess it's just that everyone who isn't messed up in some way puts that effort into becoming more swole in more traditional ways.

 

[Shard]

I'm noticing... Fylgia specialists in norsequest... I get the impression that they tend to be kind of messed up in some way. Like, we know two. One was a physical coward, and the other was blind from birth. I guess it's just that everyone who isn't messed up in some way puts that effort into becoming more swole in more traditional ways.

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Barki.. Beardless.
Aki.. Blind
Seeress/Korra: Probably Fylgja users, not thay we've seen.
Halla/Abjorn: PC/Husband
That dude who was spying on us in Winter 1/Turn 1 with a Raven: A murderer trying to break out of prison (seemingly reality is a prison) and who is probably related to us/Hallr.

.. We are kinda unhinged, aren't we..

... If Fylgja exist in the Spirit Realm and we can see through our Fylgja, can't we see into the Spirit Realm ala Seeing Eyes through that method?

 

[Alectai]

Some more thonks after bed. I think Rule Two is the reason why The Enemy fears the Norse Paradigm.

One of the things that most of the other cultures that we know are cultivators shares in common is a belief that you will eventually become deathless at the peak of the road. "Living Forever" is quite literally the objective of Daoist Cultivation, while Christian themes are all about eternal life through unity with God should you live a virtuous life.

The Norse Paradigm? "Everything dies, you might last longer than others if you play your cards right, but there's no escaping Death in the long run." Even their gods can be killed if they piss off the wrong person, or the wrong moment rolls in. Is it easy? No, but it still happens, and one of the major tales is the tale of how they all get killed when everything suddenly decides to break out at once and go into a murderfest.

Everything dies, but that includes your enemies. There's just No Such Thing as a foe that you can't wring the life out of if you're strong enough and can catch them. This is--as far as I know--fairly unique among the major, well known mythologies out there. And for a deathless force of antagonism? I can't think of something that would Worry them more than an entire style that's all about convincing the world that everything can die in the right circumstances, and can get strong enough to do it.

 

[I.F. Ister]

Voting will be called in an hour

 

[Alectai]

Huzzah! Hopefully we get some good WAFF!

...

Another Muna that helps with Hugareida would also be fine. I wanna get 'dat Wildfire!

 

[I.F. Ister]

And voting is now closed.

But, real quick, if Steinarr were to put 2 and 2 together here and ask Halla about the nisse and scorn-pole, would you rather have a vote or just take a point of odrengskapr to keep him from knowing?

Scheduled vote count started by Imperial Fister on Apr 15, 2023 at 6:17 PM, finished with 88 posts and 18 votes.

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  15 people have voted

  [X] Incomplete Boon: Speaking Out of Law - Unlocks certain events and gives bonuses towards socializing with beings outside the law. Unlock by successfully socializing with beings outside the law (1/9)

  • KreenWarrior
  • Toboe
  • Constenanto
  • CedeTheBees
  • Serous
  • DeadmanwalkingXI
  • Klaus Wulfenback
  • Sirrocco
  • MrRageQuit
  • tygerbright
  • Shard
  • Silverking
  • Wolfy098
  • Some_guy_161
  • geogio13

  2 people have voted

  [X] Feat: Calmed a troll and redirected it towards an enemy (+3 orthstirr)

  • weeblypanda
  • Solar Saiyan

  1 people have voted

  [X] Kenning: Trolltalker - Bonus dice towards social checks with trolls

  • SleepyCaterpilar

 

[Alectai]

And voting is now closed.

But, real quick, if Steinarr were to put 2 and 2 together here and ask Halla about the nisse and scorn-pole, would you rather have a vote or just take a point of odrengskapr to keep him from knowing?

Scheduled vote count started by Imperial Fister on Apr 15, 2023 at 6:17 PM, finished with 88 posts and 18 votes.

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  15 people have voted

  [X] Incomplete Boon: Speaking Out of Law - Unlocks certain events and gives bonuses towards socializing with beings outside the law. Unlock by successfully socializing with beings outside the law (1/9)

  • KreenWarrior
  • Toboe
  • Constenanto
  • CedeTheBees
  • Serous
  • DeadmanwalkingXI
  • Klaus Wulfenback
  • Sirrocco
  • MrRageQuit
  • tygerbright
  • Shard
  • Silverking
  • Wolfy098
  • Some_guy_161
  • geogio13

  2 people have voted

  [X] Feat: Calmed a troll and redirected it towards an enemy (+3 orthstirr)

  • weeblypanda
  • Solar Saiyan

  1 people have voted

  [X] Kenning: Trolltalker - Bonus dice towards social checks with trolls

  • SleepyCaterpilar

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I mean, we'll tell him, but we'll also tell him we've got a plan to fuck him up real good and proper, so if he can hold off for a couple months while we move a few things into place while he gets back into shape and does his best to recover from that ordeal and make sure he's at his best for Go Time, we can make sure we can nail him to the wall. He's not alone anymore, and shouldn't act like it. We are All united in our desire to burn this creature for what he's done.

If he wonders why? We'll just straight up tell him. "Something is protecting him, and I only found this out on the way back from the Raid when I learned he was related to half the bloody valley, only to find out that some enchantment was binding the tongues of those who knew of the connection. Then all of this happened."

Odrengskapr sucks. We shouldn't take that if we don't have to. And Steinarr deserves to know.

 

[DeadmanwalkingXI]

And voting is now closed.

But, real quick, if Steinarr were to put 2 and 2 together here and ask Halla about the nisse and scorn-pole, would you rather have a vote or just take a point of odrengskapr to keep him from knowing?

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Vote. I think we can spin things to keep him from doing anything crazy without straight-up lying to him. We can invoke our dead mother's wishes in all sincerity, for one thing, plus explain we have a plan. I think we can get him to hold off a little...he'll likely put us on a time limit, but we can work with that.

 

[I.F. Ister]

Noted.

Also, something that just hit me is the fact that the first 137 pages of this thread covered the entirety of year 1 through 4 and then the next 200 were all about year 5... which we're not even done with lmao.

 

[Toboe]

I mean, we'll tell him, but we'll also tell him we've got a plan to fuck him up real good and proper, so if he can hold off for a couple months while we move a few things into place while he gets back into shape and does his best to recover from that ordeal and make sure he's at his best for Go Time, we can make sure we can nail him to the wall. He's not alone anymore, and shouldn't act like it. We are All united in our desire to burn this creature for what he's done.

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And tell him that multiple people (Aki, Seeress) prohetized that if we tell him too early that our revenge would fail. (At least unless QM says that isn't a true statement).

Also maybe tell him we have a Seeress on our side whose children (from Hallr) were murdered by Horra.

 

[Alectai]

Noted.

Also, something that just hit me is the fact that the first 137 pages of this thread covered the entirety of year 1 through 4 and then the next 200 were all about year 5... which we're not even done with lmao.

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This is a big turning point, the year Halla became of Age and all the plots started to be resolved. No big surprise.

Noted.

Also, something that just hit me is the fact that the first 137 pages of this thread covered the entirety of year 1 through 4 and then the next 200 were all about year 5... which we're not even done with lmao.

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Oh yeah, is he going to give Gabriel his sword back for his part in the party to lift the curse? A nice way to help pay him back in advance for the Zeal he's going to spend helping us break... The..

Oh my god

I just realized it now.

The meteorite? Wasn't it some herbalist or apothecary who was looking for it?

Is it going to contain Spirit Herbs we can cultivate?

 

[Toboe]

Oh yeah, is he going to give Gabriel his sword back for his part in the party to lift the curse? A nice way to help pay him back in advance for the Zeal he's going to spend helping us break... The..

Oh my god

I just realized it now.

The meteorite? Wasn't it some herbalist or apothecary who was looking for it?

Is it going to contain Spirit Herbs we can cultivate?

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Or maybe his secrets? Like a recipe book?

 

[Alectai]

Or maybe his secrets? Like a recipe book?

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Yeah, he was an Alchemist. And it was a stupidly high Hamingja roll given what our pool was at the time that gave us the Meteorite. And it was gated behind a significant quest with a lot of requirements. I think it's going to have seeds or other similar spirit-herb things inside, and valuable ones too.

Which given the way Norse Cultivation seems to work...

 

[DeadmanwalkingXI]

And tell him that multiple people (Aki, Seeress) prohetized that if we tell him too early that our revenge would fail. (At least unless QM says that isn't a true statement).

Also maybe tell him we have a Seeress on our side whose children (from Hallr) were murdered by Horra.

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That might be shading too close to a lie. Telling him that we will likely die if he goes off half-cocked is pretty much true, though, as the whole valley coming down on us while we're pregnant or have new babies about is pretty likely to result in that. He might well also fail, but that's not what we were warned about and we should stick to what we were actually warned of in discussing warnings (noting that we need to plan in order to be successful is also true, but a separate matter).

We definitely don't tell him where in the valley Horra is immediately until he's chilled out, and maybe not then. No need to tempt him like that.

Or maybe his secrets? Like a recipe book?

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We couldn't read it, which would be a problem. I suspect it contains at least some stuff of direct use that we don't need to learn Chinese for. Needing to learn Chinese for it to be useful at all would be narratively unsatisfying...also, why contain a book in an object like this? Doesn't make sense unless you already have the container for something else.

Which makes me think either seeds or both book and seeds, but probably not book alone.

 

[TheCount]

But, real quick, if Steinarr were to put 2 and 2 together here and ask Halla about the nisse and scorn-pole, would you rather have a vote or just take a point of odrengskapr to keep him from knowing?

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i would take the odrengskapr without question, but sure, put it to a vote.

As for the alchemist/herbalist....
Do remember, we also got one of the puppet/scarecrow assassins, so.... unless we put under something heavy that cant fill it up, we should be safe.

As for what might be in the pod... herbs are fair idea, so are pills and manuals....
Perhaps also stuff like storage rings, if we are extra lucky.

hm....Jerasmus wont teach latin.... but would he also be against teaching chinese?

 

[DeadmanwalkingXI]

i would take the odrengskapr without question, but sure, put it to a vote.

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We need to tell him soon. I don't think it's worth actively lying to put it off only a little.

hm....Jerasmus wont teach latin.... but would he also be against teaching chinese?

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I think that depends on circumstances (ie: whether he thinks it will empower us in a way that hurts Christians) and whether he even can. Like, he probably has the Gift of Tongues, but I'm not sure that lets you teach languages you only know due to magic, which is the category I suspect Chinese would fall into.

 

[Toboe]

That might be shading too close to a lie. Telling him that we will likely die if he goes off half-cocked is pretty much true, though, as the whole valley coming down on us while we're pregnant or have new babies about is pretty likely to result in that. He might well also fail, but that's not what we were warned about and we should stick to what we were actually warned of in discussing warnings (noting that we need to plan in order to be successful is also true, but a separate matter).

We definitely don't tell him where in the valley Horra is immediately until he's chilled out, and maybe not then. No need to tempt him like that.

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Ending in the instant revenge spiral before finding all that carry on Horras legacy (at least: Hasvir) sounds like failing to me.
But if you consider that too close to a lie for comfort not telling that bit is fine for me, too.

We couldn't read it, which would be a problem. I suspect it contains at least some stuff of direct use that we don't need to learn Chinese for. Needing to learn Chinese for it to be useful at all would be narratively unsatisfying...also, why contain a book in an object like this? Doesn't make sense unless you already have the container for something else.

Which makes me think either seeds or both book and seeds, but probably not book alone.

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Or both, that sounds like the most likely.
It could be partially readable, like containing diagrams of plants. Could enable us to find some of the plants. (think stuff he would have had imported)
We could be able to associate the plant with the symbols.
And then see recipes that use plants we know, but we don't know the steps. An open invitation for experimentation.

It wouldn't necessarily be a narrative dead end, could be some immediate reward (seeds), some short term rewards (hints for experiments) and long term rewards (a ton of knowledge if we can learn chinese).

 

[I.F. Ister]

Incomplete Boon: Speaking Out of Law
The cool chill of the evening in winter is the greeting you receive upon returning to your father's home. Flakes of frozen white fall from the laden clouds in the sky as a light dusting of snow covers the ground.

There's a light on in the window and the sound of laughter reaches your ears as the smell of warm cooking tickles your nose.

Steinby is different, now, and as you step past the fence the door swings open and you lay eyes on the source of joyous celebration.

Steinarr, beloved father, fills the doorway with wide arms and a smile on his face. His cheeks lack the gaunt sharpness of starvation and his eyes sparkle with renewed life. But... but even with restored body and returned mind, there's something missing in that nostalgic sea of shining gray, something that won't ever shine again.

Steinarr, your father, is back.

Steinarr Hallsson, the man who was your father, is gone. That man went up in smoke with his wife, with his soulmate, with his Asveig.

"I had wondered who could be responsible for these festivities," Steinarr smiles as he welcomes you into his home, "Welcome, kin and kith and all those standing before me, to a warm hearth and good company!"

A weary cheer goes up as the crew wave their surprised joy in the air. Together, you march passed Steinarr and into his home.

"Halla!" Asva immediately waves you down as you step through the doorway. Arm in arm, she drags you off to where the cooking pot boils and bubbles. Warm steam rises as she bosses you around in that pleasantly familiar way of hers. "I need another set of hands to watch the water."

"Watch the water?" Is that it? Is that really all she wants from you? You've been cooking for Abjorn for the past months and he's never complained!

"Yes, I don't doubt you know how to keep people fed, but we need to keep people happy here."

A sly grin slides up the side of your face as teeth shine in the firelight. It seems that she doubts you, why don't you show her why that's a mistake?

'Kick her ass, Halla!' Blackhand's words aren't needed, but they are welcome encouragement nonetheless.

Cracking your knuckles, you get to work.
(Housecraft: 1, 5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 4, 6, 2, 4, 3)13+4=17 Successes
And the results speak for themselves!

All throughout the hall, your praises are sung alongside Asva, Randi, and Minna's. But even so, the songs sung of you are the loudest and most enthusiastic.

But even though your food is the best, Asva outclasses you in sheer magnitude. Easily triple the amount of food from her alone. While you without a doubt are the better warrior between the two of you, she is the better wife. At least, she will be soon enough if the way she talks of Jordan Halfdansson have any truth to them

Supposedly, she's to marry him when he returns from the next year's raiding. Good for Asva!

Over the hours, though, the feasting begins to slow down as men begin to nod off, lulled to sleep with deep draughts of mead and honey. Soon, the only ones standing are you and Steinarr — you because you are pregnant and Steinarr....

He holds the scorn-pole in his hands, fingers tracing the runes carved into its surface. When and how he got his hands on it is a mystery, but in this the cause has far less importance than the result.

"Halla," his words cut through the warmth and smoke like a scythe through grain, "there is a stench to this wood, to these runes. It is the same stench that clung to the nisse. A stench I could never forget, even if it took me some time to place it."

He stands up and you swallow as he steadily holds your gaze, refusing to break it for even a single flutter of the heart. "I-I buried the nisse."

"I dug it up."

"Oh," you say, your voice small.

"I've been asking around if anyone knows of any shapecrafters in the area, but nobody was able to give me straight answers. Not even the Jarl of Jurgdby could look me in the eye." You can't look away from those eyes of cold steel, no matter how much the desire grips at your heart. "Will you be any different?"

'The marks of our lineage; hair of fire and a gaze of steel.'

"Tell me, loyal daughter, who is responsible for this act? Who is it that I will kill?"

Steinarr Freedfire's words cut straight to the heart of the matter.

What do you do?
[ ] Answer him honestly, like a loyal daughter should, and hope that you can keep him from making a rash decision (Hugr (Silver-Tongue))
-[ ] (Optional) Write in an argument to help bolster the roll
[ ] Break away from his gaze and feel the sting of nid in your soul

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AN: I was intending to have this be the last part of this section, but it didn't end up that way. Welp, what can you do?

No moratorium, short voting period.

Originally, I was intending for the refusal option to be odrengskapr, but then I realized that this would be nid. Odrengskapr is failing to act in a dreng way, but not actively in an un-dreng way — which is what nid is.