The latter. It's past the horizon, but not by all that much.

So, hypothetically, if we were to send a bird full of knives and some fast moving people with stronk, could we hypothetically clear a gap to maneuver the last rays of sunlight here?

Actually, on that note, Gabriel's Fervor's been described as similar to water, can he actually create water at all? We might be able to make an impromptu Mirror if he can do something like that...

EDIT: Dropping a Boulder on it and then wrapping it with IAT might be a good trick to buy time too. It should harden it so its magic won't easily work on it like it would ordinary stone.
 
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So...IAT does not last only one round and does not require orthstirr to maintain. If we spend, like, 30 orthstirr on it and nothing breaks it, that thing stays stuck until something does break it. My presumption would also be that people would, in fact, also be attacking the troll while it was pinned

Huh? I thought IAT could only affect someone for so long before it wore off? Not to mention that IAT can be broken by sufficiently powerful people?
 
Huh? I thought IAT could only affect someone for so long before it wore off? Not to mention that IAT can be broken by sufficiently powerful people?

It can absolutely be broken by anyone strong enough, but there's never been a time limit. They just oppose its roll with theirs. We can't use Halting Vortex or any other IAT while one is up so we rarely bother to keep them up, but there isn't a time limit per se...or not one we've run into anyway.
 
So, hypothetically, if we were to send a bird full of knives and some fast moving people, could we hypothetically clear a gap to maneuver the last rays of sunlight here?
The horizon is hills, so not really.

But, if you somehow cleared a path, that would do it.
Actually, on that note, Gabriel's Fervor's been described as similar to water, can he actually create water at all?
Unknown. I recommend sparring with him again to get an understanding of his capabilities (read; get access to his character sheet)
On a related note, are we under LotR rules where once sunlight hits them they're stone permanently, or do they turn back once it's gone?
LotR rules are Norse rules, often enough. Tolkien borrowed a lot from Norse mythology.
It's already in a killing rage, it won't be willing to listen.
Roll well enough and you'll cut through it.
 
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Oh my god.

Our Twist, Imperial Fister, our Twist. Can we use it on a Social Trick?

Is it Nid to Trick a Troll?
 
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If we manage to get it into legality discussions we may be able to convince it that it needs to the headsman and identify the person that made the deal with it before it achieves ownership of the cave.

This is hilarious and I'm in if we can manage it. Unless the Headman wouldn't be willing to do this, of course. Like I can just imagine the troll testifying in court that Horra gave it someone else's land and put up a scorn-pole and Horra what, calling it a liar to its face?
 
[X] Plan: Trolls are not known for their cunning
-[X] You have the best plan
-[X] Activate your Twist to generate 20 Dice, Activate Fight For your Life to generate 5 dice.
-[X] Activate First Impressions Trick, dump all 25 bonus dice generated by Muna into this
--[X] "By the gods! What at terrible noise!" you ask--after all, you're just an ordinary woman after all, who would find you threatening. Look down on the Troll. "Oh good heavens Sir Troll! What has happened to you? Who could have done this to you?"
--[X] Sweet talk the Troll, let him think that you're just a woman who coincidentally heard his distress. Give a hint that you had no idea such a troll was here, when you were simply exploring the area looking for something or other. Trick him into thinking that he was deceived, baited into a trap by a wicked man. See if you can get information out, offer him some dinner as he goes on his way to ideally Repay the Favor of the Treacherous Man who sent him here.
--[X] If this works, have him followed in secret by your Fylgja, shrouded from recognition With Covered in Rags. Equip it with some defensive Tricks if you have time.
--[X] If this fails... Well, Halting Vortex and pivot to something else while you fall back to where the others are., but the idea of fighting this thing all night if you can turn him into an arrow aimed at the Curse Master tickles you something fierce.

This wouldn't be Nid, would it @Imperial Fister?
 
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-[X] Activate your Twist to generate 20 Dice, Activate Fight For your Life to generate 5 dice.

First Impression is not an active Trick, it's passive, adding one success to first impressions. That said, most social checks, even in battle, are our full available dice pool on the skills, so as long as we invest Orthstirr to max out Silver-Tongue we should be able to, well, roll Silver-Tongue. I'm betting the +1/2 our dice pool Twist would only add half our Silver-Tongue, though, so we'd be rolling a total of only 20 dice for this (+1 success for First Impression).

Which should be fine, mind you, I'm just noting how that would work mechanically.
 
First Impression is not an active Trick, it's passive, adding one success to first impressions. That said, most social checks, even in battle, are our full available dice pool on the skills, so as long as we invest Orthstirr to max out Silver-Tongue we should be able to, well, roll Silver-Tongue. I'm betting the +1/2 our dice pool Twist would only add half our Silver-Tongue, though, so we'd be rolling a total of only 20 dice for this.

Which should be fine, mind you, I'm just noting how that would work mechanically.

It's Half of our Combat Pool, Explicitly.

Not "Half Again the dice you're rolling"

It is Explicitly Half again your Combat Pool
 
It's Half of our Combat Pool, Explicitly

Then I'm not sure how we add it to a Skill at all? We have no active Social Tricks at all. If it lets us add combat pool dice freely to social stuff that's...actually that's deeply broken because it would let us add the whole pool and make a 60 or 70 die social check which seems...wrong.
 
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Then I'm not sure how we add it to a Skill at all? We have no active Social Tricks at all.

TBH, I dunno, this might actually just be Probe instead depending on how it works out. Either of them still cost Orthstirr though, which means they're still Tricks.

What I want to know is. Can we do this, can we literally enact the Storyteller's Story on this guy and turn the Troll into the thing that hoists him on his own petard?

And can we do it without Shaming ourselves? Just full Bugs Bunny on this slow, sad boi.

Then I'm not sure how we add it to a Skill at all? We have no active Social Tricks at all. If it lets us add combat pool dice freely to social stuff that's...actually that's deeply broken because it would let us add the whole pool and make a 60 or 70 die social check which seems...wrong.


It costs 35 Orthstirr, and gets increasingly difficult to apply the stronger we get. I think it being stupidly good is intended.
 
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This is hilarious and I'm in if we can manage it. Unless the Headman wouldn't be willing to do this, of course. Like I can just imagine the troll testifying in court that Horra gave it someone else's land and put up a scorn-pole and Horra what, calling it a liar to its face?
Even if the Headman doesn't take a suit from a troll about Horra scamming the troll...
A suit about the nithing pole and the trolls claims with our party as witness to the nithing pole should still be a good step towards dealing with Horra.
 
Mind you, while I Xed it, this isn't final, I need to do a feasibility and then editing check after everyone runs over it.

But I think this is the way to go. Trick the Troll into turning from Horra's proxy into one of the knives we use to carve his head off. We kill him now? We're stuck fighting a battle against a nigh unkillable monster and hoping we can keep it at the bottom of a hole all night.
 
Unless the Headman wouldn't be willing to do this, of course.
Trolls are a scourge on society. No true Norseman would ever pass on the opportunity to get one over on them.
This wouldn't be Nid, would it @Imperial Fister?
It would not. The rules don't normally apply to monsters and entities like trolls. Now, following them even when dealing with trolls and the like is without a doubt drengskapr, but not following them has no consequences.
 
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