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NorseQuest (A Norse Xianxia)

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As interesting as the idea of Fafnir actually having been being a sentient magical steam-train Isekaied from the future admittedly is, I doubt it's that.

For one thing, it would seem odd for it to have come from the dragon, given we already got Stoker State from the dragon? Seems inelegant somehow.

But IF did mention a steampunk cultivation system at one point, so perhaps I'm Boo Boo the Fool.

A more profitable line of enquiry, I think, is what traits Halla has and Steinarr lacks which means she can connect to the Anchor and he can't. The only plausible ones I can think of are Odr Cultivation and Standstill, which makes me revise my confidence that the prerequisite isn't Standstill downward by a fair bit.
 
Skippy said:
As interesting as the idea of Fafnir actually having been being a sentient magical steam-train Isekaied from the future admittedly is, I doubt it's that.

For one thing, it would seem odd for it to have come from the dragon, given we already got Stoker State from the dragon? Seems inelegant somehow.

But IF did mention a steampunk cultivation system at one point, so perhaps I'm Boo Boo the Fool.

A more profitable line of enquiry, I think, is what traits Halla has and Steinarr lacks which means she can connect to the Anchor and he can't. The only plausible ones I can think of are Odr Cultivation and Standstill, which makes me revise my confidence that the prerequisite isn't Standstill downward by a fair bit.
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I would eliminate Odr Cultivation on the basis that Martial Styles appear generally disconnected from Odr or indeed specific cultivation types at all.

However, there is also Charred Soul, which would be relevant if Hallr Blackhand was the originator of this Core Style. If Blackhand was the originator of the style, then it would make thematic sense as to why we would be 'allowed' to learn this Style even if Steinarr couldn't.

But in that case Standstill isn't needed, because Blackhand didn't have the Standstill Hugareida.

If we stretch it to 'Steinarr's Mother', we get way too many unknowns..
 
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Eyeless said:
Fuck it, I'm calling it now.

Time-travelling train that may or may not have had a dragon form/transformed into one after centuries of cultural warp, and an ancestor either:
a) killed it
b) made it
c) was an important crewmember/passenger
d) ate it's heart-engine
or
e) any combination of the above
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f) was the dragon-train
 
Steinarr - Steinarr didn't have the style.
> Bram Ironjaw - Bram wasn't Steinarr's Foster-Father
> Hallr Blackhand - Hallr didn't have Standstill.
>> Sigmundr Sigurdson - Not enough Data.
>>>Sigurdr Fafnirbane - Already originated Stoker Style.
>>>> Regin, Sigurdr's Foster-Father - Literally a Dwarf.
>>>> Fafnir - Default to Sigurdr.
>> Leif, Hallr's Foster-Father - Not enough Data.
>> Hallr's Mother - Not enough Data.
> Steinarr's Mother - Not enough Data.

Something worth noting is how we got Flame-Tending Blade and how it was originally an Ignition trick-thing. The same thing could be happening.

Which is to say that Standstill may not be needed to actually get access to the Martial Style we're working towards. If it's a Core Style it shouldn't actually be reliant on Hugareidas to work anyway. So.. based on that, I would actually hypothesize that Blackhand did have the style. He just didn't teach it to Steinarr before he died.

It's also possible that the style is based on the Corpse of Gotland, but that seems somewhat less plausible... right...?
 
...Just a note but... why is it important that Ironjaw isn't a foster father of Steinarr?
Like, why would that be a requirement to inherit something?
 
Imperial Fister said:
f) was the dragon-train
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Ah it all makes sense, Sigurdr was a Skald!

Shard said:
Steinarr - Steinarr didn't have the style.
> Bram Ironjaw - Bram wasn't Steinarr's Foster-Father
> Hallr Blackhand - Hallr didn't have Standstill.
>> Sigmundr Sigurdson - Not enough Data.
>>>Sigurdr Fafnirbane - Already originated Stoker Style.
>>>> Regin, Sigurdr's Foster-Father - Literally a Dwarf.
>>>> Fafnir - Default to Sigurdr.
>> Leif, Hallr's Foster-Father - Not enough Data.
>> Hallr's Mother - Not enough Data.
> Steinarr's Mother - Not enough Data.

Something worth noting is how we got Flame-Tending Blade and how it was originally an Ignition trick-thing. The same thing could be happening.

Which is to say that Standstill may not be needed to actually get access to the Martial Style we're working towards. If it's a Core Style it shouldn't actually be reliant on Hugareidas to work anyway. So.. based on that, I would actually hypothesize that Blackhand did have the style. He just didn't teach it to Steinarr before he died.

It's also possible that the style is based on the Corpse of Gotland, but that seems somewhat less plausible... right...?
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Regin... maybe?

Like, he's a dwarf, which sorta discounts him, but he seems like quite a magical, powerful dwarf, and metal, mountains and dwarves certainly all rhyme together.

Kremhilde and or Brunhilde are worth a look-in too depending on what version of the Siegfried/Sigurdr myth cycle is true in NQ and where/if they fit in our family tree.
 
TheCount said:
...Just a note but... why is it important that Ironjaw isn't a foster father of Steinarr?
Like, why would that be a requirement to inherit something?
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this. its definitely possible one can inherit stuff not just from bloodline but from legacy of teacher/trainer. Ironjaw was Steinnar's teacher. Steinnar's was our teacher. thats as much of a lineage I'd say as a bloodline. parenthood isn't neccessary.

that said, its all speculation until Blackhand comes back or till we research more
 
You know, I wonder if we could anchor a martial style on the book we just wrote, no idea what it would do but I wonder if we could do it.

It's obviously going to be culturally important considering it got us a win (of a sorts) and I wonder if its future importance would propagate back to allow us to anchor a style around it.
 
TheCount said:
...Just a note but... why is it important that Ironjaw isn't a foster father of Steinarr?
Like, why would that be a requirement to inherit something?
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Because Styles inherited from parents are fundamentally about lineage, and the "magic system" of Norse cultivation is so intensely legalistic that true cultivation is literally linked to the concept of property rights. Ironjaw is not Steinarr's foster-father, so he can't inherit.

It also does not really jive on a emotional or logical level to me that Steinarr could become a "carrier" for Styles he did not qualify for, just based on having lived with Ironjaw for a while. I think the connection between would need to be stronger than that.
 
The style need not originate from Regin to be based on him. It could be a style inspired by, but not learned from one of the possible people.

Edit: Could be Thor.
 
Thor did seem to use a very similar technique with us, that's definitely true, although whether it was Time Stands Still is less certain. He was speaking to us, so he definitely wasn't holding his breath. Although given what we know about Rewrites, it's possible someone might be able to use them to get around limitations like that.
 
Skippy said:
Thor did seem to use a very similar technique with us, that's definitely true, although whether it was Time Stands Still is less certain. He was speaking to us, so he definitely wasn't holding his breath.
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Do we know that he wasn't using something like eye-speak? My memory is fuzzy, I can't remember if his mouth was explicitly described as moving.

e-

Hm. Who would Your have a favor on who could stop time?
 
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DeadmanwalkingXI said:
IF said on Discord that Thor called in a favor with someone else to stop time, so it's probably not a personal ability of his.
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Ah, that's interesting.

That certainly implies the ability is fairly rare, not something all Gods can do, which is weak evidence in favour of TSS and the time-stop ability Thor was loaning out being the same.
 
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Scheduled vote count started by Imperial Fister on Oct 27, 2023 at 7:55 PM, finished with 88 posts and 17 votes.
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Skippy said:
But IF did mention a steampunk cultivation system at one point, so perhaps I'm Boo Boo the Fool.
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This hypothetical system would be in its own setting, for the record. That's not to say that crossover between the two would be impossible—this is xianxia we're talking about, after all—just that respective techniques wouldn't be cross-compatible thanks to fundamental differences in the way the soul functions.

In short, NQ souls are microcosms of culture while SP souls are steam generators

The only time they'd be cross-compatible is during NQ's industrial revolution, which is a fair ways away
 
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I've got some interesting quotes from Discord about Corpsemaker's warband

(Supposedly, the Kyrsvikingar inherited a style from a predecessor Warband)

(Regardless, the 'Mirror Waltz' is a style that relies on the strength of the attacker)

And some stuff about Steelfathers as well

(Steelfathers rise and fall with the tides)

(Steelfathers die, eventually)

(And when that happens, the tides take them away)

Oh and one more quote

(From the ashes of the Silfrskinns did Corpsemaker's Grandfather—Jarl Erikaer Cruel-Winters—build the Kyrsvikingar)
 
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alexthealright said:
(Steelfathers rise and fall with the tides)

(Steelfathers die, eventually)

(And when that happens, the tides take them away)
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Are you saying.... Steelfathers can't swim? Like, the devil fruit users in One Piece? :V
DeadmanwalkingXI said:
This is an interesting Style. Great for punching up...useless for punching down. It's not the whole bag of tricks a member will have, but I find it interesting that their actual style would not give them much advantage over most weaker or even equal opponents.
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I mean, it makes sense.
Superiority through overwhelming firepower, when said firepower is made up by out manning your opponents from each power racket...
After all, its only Nid or Odreng to gang up against someone when they are equal or weaker than you, no?
 
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