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I think working to ameliorate the symptoms is very reasonable to improve his quality of life in the time he has left (inasmuch as we can, anyway). But yeah, he's not gonna live forever.
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I think working to ameliorate the symptoms is very reasonable to improve his quality of life in the time he has left (inasmuch as we can, anyway). But yeah, he's not gonna live forever.
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We'll see. It's certainly possible and I wouldn't be surprised, but I also don't think we should assume anything like that is a sure thing until it happens.
His cognitive problems are patched by Solrun.
This would give him more fighting power.
He isn't a viking nuke. He doesn't trivially overpower the problem.
He sparred with Dorri and didn't totally outclass him. If he was so overpowered that the boost would be meaningless, they wouldn't be worried about this attack, they'd have Logi and Dorri roll up on the raiders and tear them to shreds.
So if feasible it would be useful for a "burn bright and die" kinda thing. (Though the feasibility is a different question)
So we could try and (barring dice rolling "fuck you" levels of bad) could join the battle, but would have to live with whatever tactical decisions were made without us?
I.F. Ister
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You are correct, yes
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Ah...in that case, I don't think it's needed. He's already very scary indeed and Odr has a high chance of killing him, plus the risk of it counting as disclosure right as a battle starts. He may not be a nuke, but if he's together mentally, he's more than good enough as a warrior to make a good showing and die in battle if that's his goal.
It's not worth the gamble to power him up by the degree he'd be powered up (which, to be clear, would be meaningful but not a huge percentage increase of his current power comparatively).
Like, realistically, we're talking...maybe 2 Shapeshifting slots? And +3 or +4 Endurance? It'd matter but not enough to be worth the risks. Unless you're advocating for Hugr Infusion in which case, uh, him going berserk and likely murdering people on our side is not an improvement to the situation.
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Yeah, there is a reason why they're called cultivators, it takes a while for their power to come to fruition.
Steinarr getting his mind back gives us a powerful character already, and disclosure of helping out such a massive force is not a thing I wanna risk.
Steinarr getting his mind back gives us a powerful character already, and disclosure of helping out such a massive force is not a thing I wanna risk.
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On the hopeful side at least his condition probably won't stick after he dies
I'm not so sure about that. Hubris would be if he suggested that our best takes on the entire raid by themselves. This is more foolishness imo.
I.F. Ister
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Alright, now that you've had a couple hours to let it marinate, how was the update? I managed to find some extra motivation and put a little extra effort into the last few updates, so I'd like to know what you folks think.
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Quite good, thank you for all of your hard work.
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I liked it a lot. A combination of very interesting stuff that I think points in interesting directions, the stuff with Solrun especially so on both an emotional and world building level (she can turn into a raven...that's interesting), combined with the set-up for the raid, which should be very interesting indeed. The writing quality was excellent as usual.
True on it being a risk.
How big is an open question but it would be a risk.
(Also biased by the fact that it would be interesting and easily justifiable to not blow us up)
He can make a good showing, but a meaningful power up would let him make an even better showing.
Not advocating him doing Hugr infusion. While him going to where he is alone with the enemy and then infusing Hugr could be very effective... him winning and leaving (and meeting people we care about) while berserking is too risky.
More the stuff you mentioned and boosting tricks with Odr and general... narrative effects.
We can try to give him a leg up, in case arriving as a Realm 1 cultivator makes a difference.
It was great.
Not a happy turn of events, but still something we could really make something out of. (As long as we don't fall into a "prolong his life as much as possible and ignore everything else" trap)
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I mean, raising your daughter to serve the goddess who makes the immortality apples and who nobody dares to piss off too much for that exact reason is... well, a story that one can hope will have a happy ending?
Plus, it isn't what you'd call glorious to just let a bunch of scrubs trash your house.
And yeah, a big part of their advantages is going to come from numbers; mighty warriors have a lot of advantages in this setting but you can still get Lanchestered down if you're outnumbered 2:1 or whatever by someone who isn't a total scrub themselves.
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The problem is that a guy who's senile and berserk and as strong as Steinarr is probably a very dangerous guy for friend and foe alike.
If Odin doesn't want Steinarr working for him in the afterlife, I can only assume that the World Tree must have somehow managed to repo all that wisdom he got from hanging off it.
I doubt it. I mean, Odin knows it's hard to become an Odr cultivator in the mortal world; he's probably taken plenty of Einherjar who don't have that going for them.
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If it does, then that will be realllly awkward for our good christian boy gabriel... unless maybe he is on this raid against our home!
Oooh thatd be some good drama.
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Going Berserk would technically solve his cognitive problems as long as he's in the correct location first.
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[X] Side with Dorri and mop up the foraging bands
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If someone collected you one day and told you that your mother had volunteered you for a lifetime long (which considering the employer is essentially infinite) job before you were born and you had to leave behind your entire life (and family including your husband and children) and I think it would still be pretty terrible day for you even if the job was pretty nice
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Yeah it's not just that she has very little say in her future it's also that she has to leave behind her family as well because I don't think the gods give weekends off
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You're absolutely right.
It's not without things that soften it at the edges, but I in no way want to present this as an objectively good or right action, especially by anything resmembling modern standards.
Within the context of its own cultural milieu, well... a lot of kids in a lot of cultures got promised away, fostered out for what turned out to be much of their lifespan and never saw home again, captured into slavery, or otherwise put into situations that were about this bad except without the softening "it's with Idunn" angle or the rather colder "your mother agreed to this before you were born" angle.